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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    It shouldn't be hard to look left / right before doing the sideleap. Combine those two and you can do a 40m leap which is more than what BM and Wiz is capable of.

    Only paralyze will stop you from changing direction. If you are in the air or in water you have to spin the camera first to change your facing direction which can be a pain.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    angellicdeity wrote: »
    In fact, the people you're most likely to be close to are:

    1) Clerics
    2) Archers
    3) Mages
    4) Psychics

    They are all ranged Damage Dealers and they are classes that too go onto the left and right side of lanes.

    I probably had more then my fair shares of TW. And I seriously can't recall when the last time I was actually within aoe range of a cleric. There are a few times when I am shoulder to shoulder with another archer... but those moments are far in between. And the remaining casters... have a tendency to stay away from me.
    angellicdeity wrote: »
    Many AOES range from 8-12 meters which sounds small on paper until you realize it covers over 452 square meters. A lot more people are in the range of an AOE dropped on you as an archer than you care to admit. Especially true when you're fighting at any chokepoint with towers and binding points.

    Are you even talking about real TWs... or just videos that you watched. You do know that those videos tend to be the more exciting part of the TW right. There is much more to TW then one guy who just happen to drop an aoe on 20 people. Barrage has the longest range and widest effect of any aoe in game. On an average drop on a stunning BM defending the door way... you are looking at maybe 5 targets. On the off chance the said barrage hits 10 targets... I would call that extremely good.
    angellicdeity wrote: »
    Many new TW guilds underestimate the area Barrage of Arrows covers on the crystal and left/right towers. I remember seeing lots of well geared people think they could run through the little sliver on in-between the tower and crystal being covered by 2 barrages only to be greeted by over 12K damage because of lag. Barrage of Arrows and Mage BIDS cover the same surface area.

    You really need to stop watching videos and actually play the game. 12k damage from a barrage... I'll place the odd of an level 11 barrage coming from an +12 r9 bow with full r9 set bonus at 1:50 on a robe.
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    to be honest they should make the archer simular to the bm,s different masteries.

    slingshot should have its own skills and mastery.

    crossbow should have its own skill and mastery.

    would make it much interesting to use those 2 weapons more than just a bow all the time.

    What would that accomplish? I can have max mastery on crossbow, but if the current in game crossbow can't even match half of the damage coming from my bow... I'll still be using a bow.
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    It's basic trig. If you are 30m away from your target and leap left or right 20m you are now sqrt(20^2 + 30^2) = 36m away. You will cancel casting at max range but like I said, good players won't fight an archer at their max range. If the caster is less than 23m away from you a side leap won't cancel a 30m range skill. sqrt(20^2 + 22^2) = 29.7m

    In the olden days there are BMs who can leap... spin 180 and leap again. That might be something possible for an archer.
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    angellicdeity wrote: »
    Many AOES range from 8-12 meters which sounds small on paper until you realize it covers over 452 square meters.

    I may be wrong here, but I thought most ultis had a spherical AOE.
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    to be honest they should make the archer simular to the bm,s different masteries.

    slingshot should have its own skills and mastery.

    crossbow should have its own skill and mastery.

    would make it much interesting to use those 2 weapons more than just a bow all the time.

    but noooo its bow mastery for all of them..thats like getting a drivers lisence and being able to drive a semi truck or fly a fighter jet.

    By that logic, should arcanes have different skill trees for the four types of magic weapons available? That's hardly practical.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    In the olden days there are BMs who can leap... spin 180 and leap again. That might be something possible for an archer.

    Olden days? Any good BM still leaps. This is what I'm talking about when I say how manipulatable will our leaps be. If they are able to be manipulated like BM leaps then they will be a lot more useful but still doesn't change the archer playstyle in a big way.
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    Olden days? Any good BM still leaps. This is what I'm talking about when I say how manipulatable will our leaps be. If they are able to be manipulated like BM leaps then they will be a lot more useful but still doesn't change the archer playstyle in a big way.

    You have a lot more faith in the new generations of BMs then I do. Guess you never seem a BM leap at you... then leap back to where he started. Probably also not have a BM hf you in mid-air only to take out his claw to 2-aps you for low 3 digit damage when you easily cleared 5 digit in hp. The new BMs these days are a joke... and even a bad one at that.

    I might have to disagree with the play style change. If the skills are stackable and spamable, I could see it changing an archer's fighting style against melees.
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  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Again i say give masteries or other skills to slingshot and crossbow..like bm,s have with swords,axes and poles YES IT IS PRACTICAL...just a idea the the most useless weapons for a archer.


    or atleast give a cb,and sling as rank weapons...that should be a happy dance.
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