Can Rank 9 be achieved without cash shopping? (doing quests only)?

Schznider - Dreamweaver
Schznider - Dreamweaver Posts: 65 Arc User
edited November 2011 in General Discussion
I thought this might be a good topic to discuss or at least to have the feedback from people. I have people saying it is not possible and others say it can be possible but it takes alot of time.
Post your replies stating wether it is or not, and support it with an analysis if you like.

Avoid the drama :) if you have any feelings towards cashplayers or non cashplayers it is not neccessary to shout them out.

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  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    yes it is possible to farm the coin for rank 9 so that you can turn around and buy gold through gold trading.
    as for how long it takes... it depends on if you merchant, how well you merchant, if you farm, how well you farm, etc.

    but it is possible.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Yes, but you're talking spending more time in-game to earn it that way than you would working irl to CS it.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Yes, it is possible.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    No, it is not possible, you must cash shop. All who claim that they didn't cash shop for their R9 are all lying because they want the people with suck gear to stick around and be their targets.
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  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yes, but you're talking spending more time in-game to earn it that way than you would working irl to CS it.

    is this really relevant? by saying this you are assuming said person has a job lol
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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    It most certainly is possible to acquire R9 without paying any real money. I managed to get mine by the end of the second Rep/Chip sale by reinvesting what I had bought during the first sale when I realized I was quite a bit short. There are various in-game methods for collecting the vast amounts of coin required; merching, farming, selling runs, etc...
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    My merchanting skills are awful. Still working at it, though.
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Doing quests, no. Merching and/or farming, yes. Merching + farming will get you there faster, but if you find yourself reluctant to do one of them, it's still not impossible, just really time consuming.
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  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    the archer to player ratio in this thread is too high b:chuckle
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  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Merching -> buying rep badges: yes
    Doing quests and FBs: no.
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  • Zarni - Dreamweaver
    Zarni - Dreamweaver Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    If you mean "is it possible to acquire 300,000 reputation by doing quests alone, without using wraith badges from the cash shop?", the answer is basically no. It may be possible now with the 9 trials quests, but would still take around a year minimum.

    Everyone with rank 9 used either their own, or someone else real money (by grinding/merchanting in game and using that coin to buy cash shop reputation).

    Even if you manage to earn the reputation, you will have to buy the mysterious chips and medals of glory, which cost hundreds of millions of coin (or hundreds of dollars). There are no ingame quests that can yield enough mysterious chips to trade for r9 gear. The only way to get medals of glory without buying them is to be the leader of a large landholding faction (and keep all medals for yourself, lol), even then it could take over a year to get enough for even a few gear pieces.
    Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the archer to player ratio in this thread is too high b:chuckle

    lol, yeah
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    In some instances it's a catch 22. If you are currently able to farm 3-3s duo then you most likely have already cashed and even though you now go and farm full r9 it's still with using cash.... indirectly. Can you farm the amount of coin and merchant more to buy r9? Yes. How many have always been f2p and are in a position to NOW go and farm all the coin needed to get their r9 without spending a single cent? I'd say a lot fewer then people are willing to admit.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    id honestly been worn out if i had to go and farm those billions... ><

    i merchanted my way and yeah its possible, and less frustrating.
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  • Schznider - Dreamweaver
    Schznider - Dreamweaver Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    By merching do you mean the buying and selling of Items? like for example i buy a mold for 200k, make the item, shard it, refine it, and sell it for 1-2mill?
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  • Schznider - Dreamweaver
    Schznider - Dreamweaver Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    sorry for the noob question ive never tried it before, not saying i am a cash shopper, its evident i am not for publishing this thread. But i do admit i have spent real money although not as much to afford certain expensive stuff. Mobile payment.
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  • Zarni - Dreamweaver
    Zarni - Dreamweaver Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Schznider - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    By merching do you mean the buying and selling of Items? like for example i buy a mold for 200k, make the item, shard it, refine it, and sell it for 1-2mill?

    That is one example, yes. However most people who merchant enough to buy r9 are in the business of buying/selling bulk items in high demand such as nirvana mats, some TT mats and cash shop items (generally whatever is on sale: rep, packs, d-orbs, etc.).
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  • peacefulsilence
    peacefulsilence Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    It is completely doable. I got my r9 weapon and ring just buying and selling with Catshop.

    I'm totally lazy and never grind or farm. Don't even BH. No reason what so ever to cashshop.
  • Schznider - Dreamweaver
    Schznider - Dreamweaver Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Zarni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That is one example, yes. However most people who merchant enough to buy r9 are in the business of buying/selling bulk items in high demand such as nirvana mats, some TT mats and cash shop items (generally whatever is on sale: rep, packs, d-orbs, etc.).

    aaah ok, thank you. :)
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Merchanting: http://pwinsider.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/warrenwolfys-guide-to-merchanting-part-0/
  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    How many have always been f2p and are in a position to NOW go and farm all the coin needed to get their r9 without spending a single cent? I'd say a lot fewer then people are willing to admit.

    Can't say I never spent a cent, but what I did spend was small and so far back as to be completely irrelevant to my current situation. I'd wager a good portion of the more successful merchants have invested very little cash into PWI. Once you can figure out how to wheel and deal to make coin, there isn't nearly the incentive to drop wads of cash.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Schznider - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I thought this might be a good topic to discuss or at least to have the feedback from people. I have people saying it is not possible and others say it can be possible but it takes alot of time.
    Post your replies stating wether it is or not, and support it with an analysis if you like.

    Avoid the drama :) if you have any feelings towards cashplayers or non cashplayers it is not neccessary to shout them out.

    Thank You
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  • Mayatheia - Heavens Tear
    Mayatheia - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    How many have always been f2p and are in a position to NOW go and farm all the coin needed to get their r9 without spending a single cent? I'd say a lot fewer then people are willing to admit.

    100% f2p, not 1 cent of RL $ spent in game. current gear : full r9 +10, old gear: nirvana+ event +10. It is doable, if you want .
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Mayatheia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    100% f2p, not 1 cent of RL $ spent in game. current gear : full r9 +10, old gear: nirvana+ event +10. It is doable, if you want .

    Is doable, but NOT farmable. Merchandising or real cash is only way.
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  • Mayatheia - Heavens Tear
    Mayatheia - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    question was if its possible w/o cash shopping. Answer is yes. To be more specific:

    r9 rep - not possible with only questing. Not even by doing FBs. At least not in a decent amount of time.
    R9 mats - not possible by doing quests, killing quest mobs. By pure farming (nirvana, TT, w/e) will take a lot of time. Total amount of money needed for full set is somewhere around 1.5k gold. @ 1.3mil ~ 2bil. How much can one farm in 1 day? 5mil? 10mil? w/o spending any coins and keep farming 10mil every day, you can get it in about 200 days. But question is, can you constantly farm 10mil/ day every day for 6 months straight?
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  • SoulFeast - Harshlands
    SoulFeast - Harshlands Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I've farmed my r9 ring + daggers n +7 on it in 30 days of dropx2, the last one, i didn't played much i could farm more, was using nirvana daggers +10, i've farmed over 1.1 bi in the 30 days of dropx2, so Yea it is farmable, u just need know what do for farm, i did Merchant + Farm in 2 chars at same time in Nirvana doing 2 man run ( 3 chars logged + 3 chars of Bf logged 12 mins run ) and TT 3-1/3-2 farm with bf 3 chars per person, was making 50m only from farm per day n wasn't playing much...
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    SoulFeast - Harshlands wrote: »
    I've farmed my r9 ring + daggers n +7 on it in 30 days of dropx2, the last one, i didn't played much i could farm more, was using nirvana daggers +10, i've farmed over 1.1 bi in the 30 days of dropx2, so Yea it is farmable, u just need know what do for farm, i did Merchant + Farm in 2 chars at same time in Nirvana doing 2 man run ( 3 chars logged + 3 chars of Bf logged 12 mins run ) and TT 3-1/3-2 farm with bf 3 chars per person, was making 50m only from farm per day n wasn't playing much...

    *and now we watch as Souls' butt gets banned, just admitted logging more then two toons at once* Well. that is if they enforce their rules b:avoid b:chuckle
  • SoulFeast - Harshlands
    SoulFeast - Harshlands Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    i wont get bann for have more than one computer ;)
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    lol dont' matter if u have 8 pc's, each person can only log on 2 accounts at once. Might want to go read what u said.
  • bobsaget2
    bobsaget2 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    If you ask me i think they should give everyone a chance to get r9 instead of the high lvl factions that cat shop. Such like make Rank 9 farmable like nirvana. Make Medals of Glory farmable but increase the amount it takes for rank 9 this will make it easier for the people with no jobs. Being that rank 9 is about $1,000 USD. This might cause a lot of people to have rank 9 but will make many happier then they can spend the money on dorbs or mirages.
  • Vorbane - Harshlands
    Vorbane - Harshlands Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Working on it ~_~
    rank 9 - 19% farmed

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