New Damage Ranking NPC

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  • Rawynn - Archosaur
    Rawynn - Archosaur Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    been nice if damage was sorted by class instead of just a mass list. then you could see what each class is yielding for instead of just Psy., and sins
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  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Why? It's just going to be all R9 Sins, boring epeen meter. "Look at me am on a rank because of my gears".

    More likely to be a class with nuke power like psys, mages and archers
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  • CatManDoo - Dreamweaver
    CatManDoo - Dreamweaver Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    scarfaceclaw wrote: »
    More likely to be a class with nuke power like psys, mages and archers

    or seekers :)
  • RichCyphr - Heavens Tear
    RichCyphr - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    CatManDoo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    or seekers :)

    Seekers are not nukes... I wish they were... but they just aren't.
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Going to bet the top of the list, if it's a mass list, is going to be dominated by psychic's, wizards, or sins.

    Mainly because of the dmg they can easily pull off in a single hit if everything goes right.
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  • Kokki - Harshlands
    Kokki - Harshlands Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Make that barbs, then wizards, then sins, then psys. The list on harshlands is in that order from top to bottom. After the psys come the high refined BM's and then the rest of the classes.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Here is the current list on sanc

    http://i.imgur.com/3u0mI.png

    It goes:
    Barb
    Barb
    BM
    BM
    Wiz
    Wiz
    BM
    BM
    ?
    BM
    WIZ
    SIN
    SIN
    SIN
    Archer
    SIN
    ?
    Archer
    Barb
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  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    That list does surprise me.
    What kind of fool pays for a free game.
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Doesn't surprise me since I know the top persons gears and his hp..
    Yep, a good arma crit zerk of Bogumors hurts probably enough to oneshot me 20 times. lol

    And meh.. it's an intereting feature I guess. But it makes no sense for anyone who's not top geared. So it's just e-peen boost in the end :p
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  • CatManDoo - Dreamweaver
    CatManDoo - Dreamweaver Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    RichCyphr - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Seekers are not nukes... I wish they were... but they just aren't.

    well http://imageshack.us/f/24/20111103012006.png
    its dw damage tester list atm

    should be like like this
    1. wiz
    2. seeker
    3. wiz
    4. bm
    5. bm
    6. sin
    7. sin
    8. sin
    9, wiz probably
    10. sin
    11. barb


    i used only my own genie, skills and pot effects. i think seeker can do better with help of other players (hint: transfer debuffs). even without others help i can improve myslef (geting better tome, max lvl cube neck, engrave rings, ref wep to +12 and get more attack shards and better shards for wep), also i dont have sage mind shatter:D
  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Well ill be, barbs have all the top spots on RT also.
    What kind of fool pays for a free game.
  • helljethc
    helljethc Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    A 105 R9+12 seeker did 1.x mil on the mob on HT, so far the first one
  • gmsx
    gmsx Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    more pics?
  • SoniMax - Sanctuary
    SoniMax - Sanctuary Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Here is the current list on sanc

    http://i.imgur.com/3u0mI.png

    It goes:
    Barb
    Barb
    BM
    BM
    Wiz
    Wiz
    BM
    BM
    SIN
    BM
    WIZ
    SIN
    SIN
    SIN
    Archer
    SIN
    SEEKER
    Archer
    Barb

    ^^ filled the missing ones
    idk the ranking for today though :D
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  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Here is the current list on sanc

    http://i.imgur.com/3u0mI.png

    It goes:
    Barb
    Barb
    BM
    BM
    Wiz
    Wiz
    BM
    BM
    ?
    BM
    WIZ
    SIN
    SIN
    SIN
    Archer
    SIN
    ?
    Archer
    Barb


    That is interesting to note. I would had expected more casters to make it to the top list. Most mobs/bosses in game do have higher physical defense than magic defense. Wonder what the phys/mag resistance of those test dummies are. Another thing is that non casters generally have higher crits, zerk weaps, and there are more physical defense debuff skills than there are magic defense debuffs. I think these test dolls needs more control parameters, or record hits also based on average/mode/median....etc, instead of just the highest damage done.
  • Aizza - Harshlands
    Aizza - Harshlands Posts: 719 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I tried on my veno and saw that the two NPCS back by the walls have the quest - this is much easier than using the Elder, since they are back further.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    The mob has 1 pdef / 1 mres by the way. I wouldn't bother trying to use defense debuffs.
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  • BaseTheAcE - Sanctuary
    BaseTheAcE - Sanctuary Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The mob has 1 pdef / 1 mres by the way. I wouldn't bother trying to use defense debuffs.

    True, gives Clerics and Barbs disadvantage since they can use Physical / Magical debuffs and usually hit harder compared to other classes on mob.
    BM got it easier with HF.

    Btw. I'd like to get the same mob again with like 10m HP or more and test how fast only my single char (without debuffs of other classes) can kill that mob compared to others.

    This would rly show how much dmg the "OP" deal compared to other classes.
  • X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,301 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    This is HT's, I'm surprised at the lack of casters on it ...

    Clicky

    Seeker
    Barb
    BM
    Barb
    Barb
    BM
    BM
    Wizzy
    BM
    BM
    Wizzy
    BM
    Wizzy


    EDIT: I know it's early days, but I'm surprised at the damage gap between HT and other servers o.o
  • Mayatheia - Heavens Tear
    Mayatheia - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear wrote: »

    EDIT: I know it's early days, but I'm surprised at the damage gap between HT and other servers o.o

    ^ that made me lol.
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  • Evanera - Heavens Tear
    Evanera - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,423 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This is HT's, I'm surprised at the lack of casters on it ...

    Clicky

    Seeker
    Barb
    BM
    Barb
    Barb
    BM
    BM
    Wizzy
    BM
    BM
    Wizzy
    BM
    Wizzy


    EDIT: I know it's early days, but I'm surprised at the damage gap between HT and other servers o.o

    Yay I got knocked down two spots.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    It looks like the general pattern is:

    Seeker*
    Barb
    BM
    Wiz
    Sin
    Psychic
    Archer

    I'm not sure where the other casters are.

    *With BM HF + QPQ
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  • Kokki - Harshlands
    Kokki - Harshlands Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    scarfaceclaw wrote: »
    That list does surprise me.

    not really, since barbs have zerk crits, and casters don't. the % that a barb can get a zerk crit is ofcourse way lower then a wizards normal crit rate, but the list is not about average top damage, it's absolute max damage. So barbs SHOULD always have the top if they have a zerk wep.

    Also since the mob has 1/1 pdef/mres you can't apply any debuffs on it, so Tree of protection is just almost overpowered on a barb with arma zerk crit :P

    My highest so far is around 550K, but i think i can hit more since i didn't have extreme poison on my genie.
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  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    If I were an R9 Seeker I'd get a Sin, a BM, and a Veno. Triple spark heart shatter, have the veno amp me, the Sin subsea and the BM HF, frenzy and extreme poison, transfer all three debuffs and hope for a gemini zerk crit.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands wrote: »
    If I were an R9 Seeker I'd get a Sin, a BM, and a Veno. Triple spark heart shatter, have the veno amp me, the Sin subsea and the BM HF, frenzy and extreme poison, transfer all three debuffs and hope for a gemini zerk crit.

    Except 1k is a safe zone...
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Could get atleast one of those with a duel.
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  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Can't someone knock the mob back outside safezone?
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Can't someone knock the mob back outside safezone?

    You can be quick, take the quest an run back. Might end up out of SZ then when it spawns on top of ya.. Either way, Most seeker's big hitter skills including quid pro have range on it as well.
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  • Halt - Harshlands
    Halt - Harshlands Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Barbs have the 1st and 2nd spot, followed by sum bm's.
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  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Except 1k is a safe zone...

    Oh. I didn't know exactly where at 1k you fought the mob since I haven't been in-game at all in the past four days.
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