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Greymark - Raging Tide wrote: »LeVertu or Vertiathan would be epic. xD all the Levi casters and the the vertu Barbs and HA classes combines would be OP
muaha
Forum access returned jaja
Anyway on topic, Veriathan may be equal in strength to QQme and Vicious, its sad that merges rarely work out.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »only prob is that somebody is gonna have to give up lands, and nobody wants to do that.
So alas, it is nothing but a sweet thought.
meh...QQme, Vici, Levi and Vertu could give away 1 land each...a small price to pay for the sake of the server....0 -
Greymark - Raging Tide wrote: »LeVertu or Vertiathan would be epic. xD all the Levi casters and the the vertu Barbs and HA classes combines would be OP muaha
Didn't know we were known for our casters lol. But yeah your barbs are a ***** to kill...
and I'm pretty sure DeathsDoor doesn't even die in 3 hour wars.
QFT. We might be able to beat QQme/Vici if we pooled our best into one fac, but conflicting egos, leadership issues, etc would probably result in a collapse.Amrd - Raging Tide wrote: »Anyway on topic, Veriathan may be equal in strength to QQme and Vicious, its sad that merges rarely work out.
I'd agree with this statement. Problem is, I don't think the leaders of QQme, Vici, Levi, and Vertu probably don't feel the same.Shield - Raging Tide wrote: »meh...QQme, Vici, Levi and Vertu could give away 1 land each...a small price to pay for the sake of the server....0 -
Mhm if we made a faction of the best/active 200 people from both factions it would theoretically be pretty op xD0
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Amrd - Raging Tide wrote: »Infamy had the biggest gank in ALL RT HISTORY when it died
Also Levi experienced that for over a MONTH when Vicious was formed.
^ thisSuaver - Raging Tide wrote: »I knew I should have bid with SuavIsPro!
True that.Man - Raging Tide wrote: »
Its about quality not quantity.
You would know this how?Spell_Caster - Raging Tide wrote: »QQme supports all small factions that attack Vertu. We offer apothecary and charms.
something wrong with this statement. *switches to fix mode*Spell_Caster - Raging Tide wrote: »QQme bribes all small factions that attack Vertu. We sell apothecary and charms at west tele (look for FoxyLady) .
fixed, moving along.Greymark - Raging Tide wrote: »Lol damnit Dakill i told you my nudes are only for the privileged.
Nudes are good. Keep up the good work. Also, I hear a lot of nude action going on at Viscus house, that true?
^intentional typo, I hear that makes you look cool around here.Boartracker - Raging Tide wrote: »b:shy We look forward to our weekly events. Now, if QQme would just up our TW pay b:laugh
Dream on.
Why you ask?
a) Man needs to finish his gear with unnoticed bleeding of QQme TW income.
If you think about it, their TW decisions make seance. It is called personal prioritization.Get money for leaders gear in 5min lame TW, while evading pro 3h TW for faction members. Pro faction is pro.
b) Enemy keeps "dropping" TW pay MILLIONS in PK. Riiiggghhhtttt. Pro pker is pro.
c) Buy Spell some more tele's so he can flame some more and make look what's left of decent members in QQme like complete knuckleheads. Pro leadership is pro.
d)... *yawns*@qqme. lame topic is lame.
Now there is someone that enjoys the game. I salute you dear Sir.BloodTyrant - Raging Tide wrote: »u did great with the cleric uko b:cute
today 5 ganks
lies :xDaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »My sin is in Nocturnal, so don't be surprised if your r9 barbs are aps'd to death in seconds Vertu.
HINT for Vertu barbs: get bramble guarded. Also, use demon roar.
Sorry Kill >_>DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »tbh I'd really like it if the bigger facs would leave like 4 lands in the bottom left corner of the map for smaller facs to fight over.
^ It is an old idea. Me thinks most pro players on this server think alike and support it.
BUT!
This will happen as soon as you get rid of qqme's competitive/iRcool/epeensroking/igotnoRL mentality on this server.
Well, was nice commenting your comments. Until next time b:kiss
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a) Man needs to finish his gear with unnoticed bleeding of QQme TW income.
If you think about it, their TW decisions make seance. It is called personal prioritization.Get money for leaders gear in 5min lame TW, while evading pro 3h TW for faction members. Pro faction is pro.
seems like u are in QQme; pro tip: leave the faction and join le resistance (if you haven't already) and let em be...^ It is an old idea. Me thinks most pro players on this server think alike and support it.
BUT!
This will happen as soon as you get rid of qqme's competitive/iRcool/epeensroking/igotnoRL mentality on this server.
well it was levi the one that rolled Philipinas cause they couldn't take vertu, qqme or vici lands so is pretty much the top 4 factions mentality that needs to be changed imo.0 -
I think daveted has pretty much expressed the mind state of nearly every non QQme member on the server xD0
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he ruined any chance of my sin apsing Vertu cata barbs to death b:cry0
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Boartracker - Raging Tide wrote: »And, some have formed alliances and have squads that come over to learn to TW. Combining factions that have players who support their own faction isn't what players want to do. Most good players have strong faction loyalties. However, having another faction send over members for the TW events works out well. I wonder if any of you experienced players would decide to just up and change factions for just trying to win a TW if you weren't good at TW yet?
Members from a faction can even stay in their own squads during the events. It also allows the "old timers" to use their alts to have fun with additional TWs and share their knowledge with those new to TW. It helps to grow the TWing member base on the server by giving folks a way to try out TW. We have no pressure to win and just have fun learning.
The end result is that some of these folks will move up to the major TW factions and maybe know a little bit about TW when they get there. For others, it may give the drive to make their faction into a TW land owner contender in the future. It meets the rules that PWI has set up
the only problem with these "Training tw's" is that the current land holding faction usually ends the tw before is really starts. for example the marine vs. vertu a few weeks ago. marine bid on them a few times. vertu leader sends in some of his lesser pro or non experienced players and in their excitement they utterly destroy the incoming team before they know what has hit them. If faction leaders and players could set up real, longer lasting training tw's then yea, more people would be able to learn alot more from each other and would be alot more fun.0 -
Hotlilchicka - Raging Tide wrote: »the only problem with these "Training tw's" is that the current land holding faction usually ends the tw before is really starts. for example the marine vs. vertu a few weeks ago. marine bid on them a few times. vertu leader sends in some of his lesser pro or non experienced players and in their excitement they utterly destroy the incoming team before they know what has hit them. If faction leaders and players could set up real, longer lasting training tw's then yea, more people would be able to learn alot more from each other and would be alot more fun.
In one case that was true. However, if an attacking "smaller" faction has the oportunity to set up squads, towers and try to execute some stratagies, it's fun and educational. We've learned some great points from our opponents during the events. As to being "utterly destroyed," it happens when you go in outnumbered. It also helps you to work on scouting the next time so you'll know what's about to hit you. We have enjoyed some events up to 45 minutes which have given players exposure to experiences that they need to become familiar with TW. (Even larger factions need a way to train their new members as well.) Our shortest was over 15 minutes on defense when a group needed "roll" us to fight elsewhere with their main body. I can understand that and our members did as well.
It would be nice if PWI were able to offer the smaller factions a way to have meaningful TWs like we had after the map reset. (We had some great TWs that lasted a couple hours back then.) Being a realist and older than some here, I won't bet my 401 account that it will happen anytime soon. That leaves players the options of either trying to join a land holding faction or trying something like mentioned earlier.
I don't see many other options available for training for TWs. The World Bosses are limited, respawn too slowly and have factions competing to grab the bosses from each other at times. The 40x40 Base battles would have been nice; but, PWE canceled that before it got started.
I would point out that there are a lot of people who have no interest in doing TW on Raging Tides. The costs of TW events for the individuals in these events adds up for participants. The costs of the gear as well as consumables puts TW out of the reach of many F2P players until they reach "end game." The events we've been having are able to keep the costs down on both sides and let folks sample TW before they get old and long in the tooth at end game. 0 -
Boartracker - Raging Tide wrote: »In one case that was true. However, if an attacking "smaller" faction has the oportunity to set up squads, towers and try to execute some stratagies, it's fun and educational. We've learned some great points from our opponents during the events. As to being "utterly destroyed," it happens when you go in outnumbered. It also helps you to work on scouting the next time so you'll know what's about to hit you. We have enjoyed some events up to 45 minutes which have given players exposure to experiences that they need to become familiar with TW. (Even larger factions need a way to train their new members as well.) Our shortest was over 15 minutes on defense when a group needed "roll" us to fight elsewhere with their main body. I can understand that and our members did as well.
It would be nice if PWI were able to offer the smaller factions a way to have meaningful TWs like we had after the map reset. (We had some great TWs that lasted a couple hours back then.) Being a realist and older than some here, I won't bet my 401 account that it will happen anytime soon. That leaves players the options of either trying to join a land holding faction or trying something like mentioned earlier.
I don't see many other options available for training for TWs. The World Bosses are limited, respawn too slowly and have factions competing to grab the bosses from each other at times. The 40x40 Base battles would have been nice; but, PWE canceled that before it got started.
I would point out that there are a lot of people who have no interest in doing TW on Raging Tides. The costs of TW events for the individuals in these events adds up for participants. The costs of the gear as well as consumables puts TW out of the reach of many F2P players until they reach "end game." The events we've been having are able to keep the costs down on both sides and let folks sample TW before they get old and long in the tooth at end game.
you sound awesome! i would love to tw with you lol0 -
Hotlilchicka - Raging Tide wrote: »the only problem with these "Training tw's" is that the current land holding faction usually ends the tw before is really starts. for example the marine vs. vertu a few weeks ago. marine bid on them a few times. vertu leader sends in some of his lesser pro or non experienced players and in their excitement they utterly destroy the incoming team before they know what has hit them. If faction leaders and players could set up real, longer lasting training tw's then yea, more people would be able to learn alot more from each other and would be alot more fun.
Training TWs doesn't exist. Is just a fancy way to name farm kill instances b:sin
Training TWs are not allowed. Would have both leaders banned for a few weeks If found they arranged TW. Also the risk of ganks on the land holding faction are high, and thus the chances of the weakest facton beign rolled are high also.Sliding we go, only fear on our side. To the edge of the wire and we rush with the tide.
Although I'm still alive, pray to God I survive
How long on this longest day, 'til we finally make it through.
- June 6, 1944. The day earth stood still.
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Good ideas here!
I was almost impeached as leader of the glorious faction of QQme, because after i paid all the small factions to attack Vertu, paid all my bribes, and tried to buy another +12 orb tw pay was actually negative, so faction had to donate me a little monies.
No noobs i saw how other factions had drama over tw pay, and i can assure you i was not stupid enough to let this happen. Thus every week when tw pay comes in i send it ALL to a trusty accountant who puts it up in a nice spreadsheet. I can assure you 100% of complaining i see about tw pay money comes from out of faction and people not knowing anything. So glad i could put that to rest for those who were curious.
4 lands for small factions to have fun with
Its an ok idea, personally i am jealous if someone is having fun without me. Lets stop to consider the tw map at the start of the server, and after reset. Yes it seems to me most of the good tw came after the map was filled up. It forces people together and forces conflict. Take Vertu / Levi they could be having 3 hour tw with each other, yet there are many weeks in the past neither have even bid in tw, and they obv want easy 5 minute tw instead of a better class of tw. So if Levi / Vertu doesn't even want tw we assume small factions want it? yes ofc they do they are pro.
So Personally i guess i could support a 2/4 land section for smaller factions to fight with. Possible Disagreements would be.
1. What constitutes who could attack and hold them and who couldn't? None of the "strongest" 4 factions, Vertu QQme LEviation, Vicious. How about Valk? And you have to assume eventually a faction will come to power, who decides who can attack these lands and who can't? I guess we could say the top 4 landholding factions on the RT can't attack them, but even then who is to say some day soon Vertu or vicoius or QQme or Levi won't be on the tw map, and a powerful faction like one of those could easily hold it against smaller factions.
Still Meh i think its worth a try. 4 lands is a good number i agree.
Last I don't think a combination of Vertu + Levi could beat QQme or Viscous atm, in the future sure . But maybe that can be a good challenge too you.
Last here are some ideas on how to improve server fun.
1. Attend events
2. Thursday night Tournament
3. Join factions that tw, tell your leader you want tw, and then tw.
4. Server Karaoke nights!
5. Less negativity and pessimism!
OK love and peace[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I totally agree with letting a few territories open for smaller guilds to TW. 6-10 would be better than 4 only tho.
Sadly, the past has proven that this idea will backfire. Especially after the map reset (and before), when many smaller factions held territory, instead of trying to spread out and fight, they would just sit on that territory trying to get the pay as long as possible. I can kind of understand that, but for the big factions it kinda defeats the purpose of letting them keep land. I dont think anyone would mind to give up a few territories for smaller guilds to have fun on, however, those small factions arent really making use of it. b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Man - Raging Tide wrote: »Take Vertu / Levi they could be having 3 hour tw with each other, yet there are many weeks in the past neither have even bid in tw, and they obv want easy 5 minute tw instead of a better class of tw. So if Levi / Vertu doesn't even want tw we assume small factions want it? yes ofc they do they are pro
i totally agree with you on this one, Levi attacked Philipinas when they could go against Vertu and have fun however big boys can actually be like the server police. we may need to work on this before doing it *cough* Dakillanator *cough* i would but me English kinda suck Q_Q set some possible "rules" or somethingMan - Raging Tide wrote: »1. What constitutes who could attack and hold them and who couldn't? None of the "strongest" 4 factions, Vertu QQme LEviation, Vicious. How about Valk?
one of my toons is in Valk (i hope i dont get kick over this lol) and i think we are all about having fun TWs not 5 mins rolls at least not since im here...we didnt attacked Philipinas and we are working our way to have fun TWs against either Vertu or Levi (idk what offices thinks lol) still i think Valkyre should be out of this equation since they proved more than once that they are not a 5 mins roll against Vertu or Levi and in this game there is a huge dif. btwn a 5 min roll and a 20-30 mins tw.Man - Raging Tide wrote: »who decides who can attack these lands and who can't? I guess we could say the top 4 landholding factions on the RT can't attack them, but even then who is to say some day soon Vertu or vicoius or QQme or Levi won't be on the tw map, and a powerful faction like one of those could easily hold it against smaller factions.
Take GS for example...when they died we all knew that they couldnt hold land we all knew the strongets members left etc. if they were around they could tw on the lets call them "neutral lands"
we may set some rules about this i.e. once that a faction hold the 4 "neutral lands" for more than 4 weeks (having 3 attacks etc) they will need to give the land away to reset it if not they will be rolled by the top factions to reset the lands again.
every neutral-landholder factions will need to attack at least once every two week if not every week; if a faction doesn't it will be rolled out of the "neutral lands"
who will decide this? the top factions will and the rest of the forum users i know you all going to say that most ppl dont use the forum which is true but most officers of the landholding factions do so they could speak for they factions...
^ just a few ideas thereMan - Raging Tide wrote: »Last here are some ideas on how to improve server fun.
1. Attend events
2. Thursday night Tournament
3. Join factions that tw, tell your leader you want tw, and then tw.
4. Server Karaoke nights!
5. Less negativity and pessimism!
OK love and peace
i like the karaoke night idea lol also pk events for the whole server all lvls etc. that would be nice (i know that we had a few before but now we have SP for those blue named players that dont wanna go pk)0 -
Lana - Raging Tide wrote: »I totally agree with letting a few territories open for smaller guilds to TW. 6-10 would be better than 4 only tho.
Sadly, the past has proven that this idea will backfire. Especially after the map reset (and before), when many smaller factions held territory, instead of trying to spread out and fight, they would just sit on that territory trying to get the pay as long as possible. I can kind of understand that, but for the big factions it kinda defeats the purpose of letting them keep land. I dont think anyone would mind to give up a few territories for smaller guilds to have fun on, however, those small factions arent really making use of it. b:surrender
4 lands is the perfect number or maybe just 3 more than that its going to be hard to handle.
we should give it a try and see how it goes; this is not a map reset and if we do it it will be done for the server so sitting there holding lands wont be an option if u dont wanna TW u r out of the "neutral lands" or whatever you wanna call em.
now days making 10 mils is kinda easy imo not taking in consideration that those 10 mils needs to be used "for the faction" so is not a lot of money we are talking about here...not to mention that with just 4 lands available if 1 faction holds 1 land i a lot of factions will try to take it in a 1x1
mmm i wonder what does Vertu and Levi officers think about this XD0 -
Man - Raging Tide wrote: »Good ideas here!
I was almost impeached as leader of the glorious faction of QQme, because after i paid all the small factions to attack Vertu, paid all my bribes, and tried to buy another +12 orb tw pay was actually negative, so faction had to donate me a little monies.
No noobs i saw how other factions had drama over tw pay, and i can assure you i was not stupid enough to let this happen. Thus every week when tw pay comes in i send it ALL to a trusty accountant who puts it up in a nice spreadsheet. I can assure you 100% of complaining i see about tw pay money comes from out of faction and people not knowing anything. So glad i could put that to rest for those who were curious.
4 lands for small factions to have fun with
Its an ok idea, personally i am jealous if someone is having fun without me. Lets stop to consider the tw map at the start of the server, and after reset. Yes it seems to me most of the good tw came after the map was filled up. It forces people together and forces conflict. Take Vertu / Levi they could be having 3 hour tw with each other, yet there are many weeks in the past neither have even bid in tw, and they obv want easy 5 minute tw instead of a better class of tw. So if Levi / Vertu doesn't even want tw we assume small factions want it? yes ofc they do they are pro.
So Personally i guess i could support a 2/4 land section for smaller factions to fight with. Possible Disagreements would be.
1. What constitutes who could attack and hold them and who couldn't? None of the "strongest" 4 factions, Vertu QQme LEviation, Vicious. How about Valk? And you have to assume eventually a faction will come to power, who decides who can attack these lands and who can't? I guess we could say the top 4 landholding factions on the RT can't attack them, but even then who is to say some day soon Vertu or vicoius or QQme or Levi won't be on the tw map, and a powerful faction like one of those could easily hold it against smaller factions.
Still Meh i think its worth a try. 4 lands is a good number i agree.
Last I don't think a combination of Vertu + Levi could beat QQme or Viscous atm, in the future sure . But maybe that can be a good challenge too you.
Last here are some ideas on how to improve server fun.
1. Attend events
2. Thursday night Tournament
3. Join factions that tw, tell your leader you want tw, and then tw.
4. Server Karaoke nights!
5. Less negativity and pessimism!
OK love and peace
Actually, if you talk to any Levi or Vertu member now 99% of them will say they want to fight eachother and had a few weeks of doing so and it was your "Glorious" faction that ruined us having fun 3 hour tws with eachother last week, not to mention the few other factions which may (or may not) have been in association with QQme. You have yet to deny the claims you just brush them off with you may want us to believe is sarcasm. Not trolling or bashing, just stating facts.
I also agree with the four land thing i do agree that factions like valk fall into a tough position there. They cant beat the top 4 factions but they are easily the best faction not on the map and would roll any of the smaller factions.. so what do they do? Shield also gives some good points about how long your allowed to sit on them or control them before one of the big boys wipes you to reset it.0 -
Vertu and Levi are completely blocked off from each other now. You don't know how many Vertu members were happy when we started the Levi wars. We would love to do it again, but now we need land to touch each other 0 -
If people seriously want to make this happen I'll think up some rules and make a thread for you guys to review. Man has some points, and I'm open to whatever other issues can be thought up.
On another topic!
Wtf no more Levi vs Vertu wars b:cry
QQme basically put themselves in a spot where we have to triple gank them. Which means they'll have to no show their "fun" TWs with Vicious, and Levi and Vertu can't go at it anymore.
Who's bright idea was that?0 -
Greymark - Raging Tide wrote: »Actually, if you talk to any Levi or Vertu member now 99% of them will say they want to fight eachother and had a few weeks of doing so and it was your "Glorious" faction that ruined us having fun 3 hour tws with eachother last week, not to mention the few other factions which may (or may not) have been in association with QQme. .
So my faction stooped Vertu and LEvi from attacking each other this last week? BS
And how about all the weeks previous, you were touching each other for 2 months + and didn't attack each other? Or remind me how that went. My timing could be off. Someone want to ruin greymarks day by putting some truthiness into this thread? b:victory
I'm not saying you should have, who am i tell you what you want or what you should do. But i'm saying you did not, and it wasn't qqme that stopped you. Actions speak intentions a lot better than your words, and we can see by what happened on the map last 3-4 months that levi and vertus intentions were not too war with each other. I guess you didn't like that 3 hour Levi defense last week so didn't want to get the horns again.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
OFC it was Spell's idea Man doesnt have a say in who they attack remember?
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Man - Raging Tide wrote: »So my faction stooped Vertu and LEvi from attacking each other this last week? BS
And how about all the weeks previous, you were touching each other for 2 months + and didn't attack each other? Or remind me how that went. My timing could be off. Someone want to ruin greymarks day by putting some truthiness into this thread? b:victory
I'm not saying you should have, who am i tell you what you want or what you should do. But i'm saying you did not, and it wasn't qqme that stopped you. Actions speak intentions a lot better than your words, and we can see by what happened on the map last 3-4 months that levi and vertus intentions were not too war with each other. I guess you didn't like that 3 hour Levi defense last week so didn't want to get the horns again.
I Dont know which tw map you were watching for the last month but Levi and Vertu have finally started to fight we have probably had 4 or 5 fights in the passed few weeks (last week excluded because of the ganks) We were attacking eachother back and forth and were having fun 2 - 3 hour TWs doing so. If you were somehow hiding under a rock and missed it, a few of the levi/vertu videos are on the forums with dates. The only fun TW for vertu or levi now is to fight eachother and now (Yes thanks to QQme, whether you like to admit it or not) Not only are we not going to fight eachother, we are not ABLE to fight eachother.
You complain about Vertu/Levi not fighting eachother yet when we start to you decide to split us up? Something doesnt add up there. I mean even if we didnt want to triple gank QQme, as someone has already previously stated you havnt left anyone with much of a choice. I thought you were a big advocate for fun tws over land count ? I guess QQme steam rolling vertu or levi and ducking vicious is much more fun than Levi vs Vertu and QQme vs Vici. My bad bro your right, that would make far too much sense.
PS. We loved the 3 hour war actually, the only reason we didnt attack eachother is because we have a friendly TW understanding so far and vertu was taking so much heat there was no need to add to it.0 -
Ok greymark here are the facts
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1164561 Looks like Vertu and Levi were bordering each other for 9 weeks, have have only attacked each other 2 of the 9 weeks.
2 out of 9 ain't bad XD
Is this true or false?
Again i'm not saying you should have attacked each other far from it my place to say. but there you have an example of 7 weeks of pure unadulterated opportunity for mayhem that you didn't fight one another, and no faction stood in your way.
As far as the tw map goes sometimes its good for your faction, sometimes its bad. The separation or temporary separation of veru and levi may be good for tw map.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Man - Raging Tide wrote: »Ok greymark here are the facts
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1164561 Looks like Vertu and Levi were bordering each other for 9 weeks, have have only attacked each other 2 of the 9 weeks.
2 out of 9 ain't bad XD
Is this true or false?
Again i'm not saying you should have attacked each other far from it my place to say. but there you have an example of 7 weeks of pure unadulterated opportunity for mayhem that you didn't fight one another, and no faction stood in your way.
As far as the tw map goes sometimes its good for your faction, sometimes its bad. The separation or temporary separation of veru and levi may be good for tw map.
Yeah but Leviathan still had to get rid of Decimate first.. which took a while bcuz they still had a handful of lands left (before they actually fell apart)Attacking at the speed of Suck since 20090 -
Took the words out of my mouth Tony. At the time it just didnt make sense to fight each other because we both had other things that needed to be done first. Levi was having 3 hour stalemates with Deci and we were content with our 1-2 hour TWs with a valk that was much stronger than it is today (Harkin, Other qqme alts etc). Now that we've both come to terms with that fact that the only real tw we have left is each other, we started attacking one another and were most likely going to do so until one side got bored of it xD.
Remember Man, my argument was that you have stopped us from attacking each other. The fact that we were touching one another for 9 weeks and only attacked for 2 of those weeks is completely arbitrary. The fact is, we were obviously attacking each other for the last few weeks and were obviously going to continue to do so unless some outside 3rd party caused us to stop. That 3rd party was QQme splitting us up. What im getting at here this is that you have quite LITERALLY caused us to stop attacking each other.
(Excuse any spelling/grammatical errors etc, I blasted this off at 8am before uni xD)0 -
What Grey is getting at, I think, is the fact that now we don't even have a choice on whether to attack each other or no. Those what? nine? weeks, we had a choice in the matter, but Levi was busy with Deci and we were busy with Valk. Then in the last 3 weeks, after Levi got rid of Deci and Pilipinas I think and Vertu got rid of valk, we started attacking each other.
Now if QQme didn't go in to take Arch, we would have the choice whether to continue the fights, to triple gank, or to take a week off. Now we just have 2 choices, either to attack QQme or take a break.0 -
Uko - Raging Tide wrote: »What Grey is getting at, I think, is the fact that now we don't even have a choice on whether to attack each other or no. Those what? nine? weeks, we had a choice in the matter, but Levi was busy with Deci and we were busy with Valk. Then in the last 3 weeks, after Levi got rid of Deci and Pilipinas I think and Vertu got rid of valk, we started attacking each other.
Now if QQme didn't go in to take Arch, we would have the choice whether to continue the fights, to triple gank, or to take a week off. Now we just have 2 choices, either to attack QQme or take a break.
Yea no more fun tw vs levi b:cry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Uko - Raging Tide wrote: »What Grey is getting at, I think, is the fact that now we don't even have a choice on whether to attack each other or no. Those what? nine? weeks, we had a choice in the matter, but Levi was busy with Deci and we were busy with Valk. Then in the last 3 weeks, after Levi got rid of Deci and Pilipinas I think and Vertu got rid of valk, we started attacking each other.
Now if QQme didn't go in to take Arch, we would have the choice whether to continue the fights, to triple gank, or to take a week off. Now we just have 2 choices, either to attack QQme or take a break.
Vertu and Leviathan both had their choices long before QQme took back Archosaur. There were quite a few triple bids on QQme which those two factions chose when your two factions could have fought one another. And remember, Archosaur last week was bid on after Vertu and Leviathan jumped on the wagon with Vicious and both bid on us.
Those types of complaints are silly to make. Vertu and Leviathan make choices. They have to deal with the aftermath of their choices. And it shows the mentality of both Vertu and Leviathan. Both of your factions preferred wiping weaker factions off the map instead of fighting one another. No offense. But I don't see Vicious and QQme ever going that route entirely. Historically our two factions have fought each other and diverted our attention away from one another when we needed time to recuperate. It was Vicious who did wipe Valk off the map the last time Valk was on the map. And QQme has taken a few lands of Vertu in recent history. Big deal. It was Vertu's choice to attack us first and keep attacking us. If you don't like the response of other factions maybe talk to Grant about it...0 -
I love how Zav is knocking Vertu and Levi for picking unfair fights, when the whole reason we're complaining is because QQme took the easy route and rolled Vertu LOL b:chuckle0
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DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »I love how Zav is knocking Vertu and Levi for picking unfair fights, when the whole reason we're complaining is because QQme took the easy route and rolled Vertu LOL b:chuckle
+1, I think the QQme members still dont see the point were trying to make.
DaKill why dont we all just agree that QQme is all mighty and omniscient, they are never wrong and never make mistakes. If something happens on the server and every single other faction besides QQme shares the same opinion, we are all obviously wrong and QQme is right. There, argument settled. :P0
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