Share tactics to kill sins

Nothing works endgame, they just faceroll you through anything thats not a 100% damage reduction _._ which is not hard when they can teleport to you outside your firing range or genie range.

If you are quick though you can stop shadowescape with earthquake or lightning bolt (not sure what it is) problem is by that point you probably already used all your genie energy just to save yourself.

So a good tip is hide behind game objects ppl etc and hope they don't find you or care enough to kill you.

The following point makes you and your meaningless ego-filled post invalid too

1.How the hell do you use Life Drain without a target?
2.They have a skill that has a chance to evade skills.You honestly think you gonna land a stun on them?Even if it did land,they probably have anti-stun too.
3.Fists is not a valid PvP option for archers.I lol at this.
4.By the time you triple spark,they would have gone back into stealth and wait till your spark has finished casting.Then proceed to slit your throat,cut off your head and dump your carcass into the pile of bodies of all the people they killed
5.Expel and Wings of Grace will only make them stealth and run away honestly.
6.Level 80 is not end-game.If you say you tried this on a level 100 character,prove it before coming to preach on here.
7.Sin's teleport range is over 35.They need a target to teleport to obviously,so obviously whatever sin you were fighting is either a)a newb/noob or b)couldn't find a far enough target.

So perhaps maybe you would like to brush up your trolling skills and not come in acting like you are all pro when you are not and judging people while you are at it.

Knife Throw/Throat Cut

Barrage ended.

EIvemage - Dreamweaver wrote: »

does that work through expel?

It does with condensed thorn. Also they can easily counter this with at least 6 different ways. It probably works against stupid sins but there is nothing you can do against smart sins.

Against equal gear and equal skill sin wins everytime.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

Just because you don't take physical damage doesn't mean the attack doesn't interrupt. Seal and channel interrupt are two different features.

Nope. If an attack does not do its damage it won't proc.

A smart sin can easily damage through expel, or use a genie skill to interrupt, or cast expel themselves, or just tele out of range, or use apothecary, or just tank your barrage because it only does 50% damage in melee...

Did I mention this would only work against stupid sins?

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

And you don't take damage from Force of Will either.

yes you do b:avoid

I only mentioned WoG+BoA+Expel because it provides alot of defensive options while also countering stealth because it will continue to come down if the sin tries to stealth and run away, which tends to be a prevalent strategy for sins I've faced, then again, most won't even bother with that.

Full agreement that a smart sin should always counter any strategy.

And tbh, I tried this strategy heavily in TW vs non sin targets earlier tonight (maybe 6-7 times with White Tea and Expel available after each death). I tanked a r9 archer, a barb and a bm simultaneously then managed to drop BoA with 2 seconds left on expel and holy path to safety. Dead clerics are super dead HP Charm+Crab Meat and IH helps with the magic damage issue. Popping Winged Shell as well could help prevent one shots from magic. That would still use ALOT of chi though...b:surrender

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I tanked a r9 archer, a barb and a bm simultaneously then managed to drop BoA with 2 seconds left on expel and holy path to safety.

Feels a bit misleading saying you tanked those people when you had expel on =x

Anfisa - Lost City wrote: »

Feels a bit misleading saying you tanked those people when you had expel on =x

Fair enough, though they were all attacking me (No one else was really close by but my brother, and I assume I was the target since my first barrage wave had just destroyed 2 clerics and their other robes). Perhaps the situation just worked well to my advantage, but I don't imagine any of them predicted or knew that I was going to expel in BoA, or that I was sage, enabling me to kill their archer before getting hit. I suppose I could just say I pulled aggro with BoA and used the archer equivalent of invoke xD

And like I've said, I have tried it against sins when I am able. I'm also sure a sin *could* counter it, but most sins if they come out of stealth and hit you 2-3 times (especially if I just popped WoG+crabs) they will go back into stealth. That is where BoA comes in, since it kills them regardless of stealth or not. It also keeps them from stunning you out of BoA if expel is used intandem with BoA. My sage BoA also helps when expel isn't active. Less damage is less.

Kaitica - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I find it misleading that expel allowed him to drop a BoA when it seals.

On the contrary, BoA allows me to drop expel. Expel *WILL* cancel a skill you are channeling, but if the skill is continuous cast you can expel after getting it off. I haven't done extensive testing with this, but I can vouch that it does work with at least BoA and Wizzy DB, likely Vortex as well.

And I know the strategy wasn't very cost effective in terms of sparks, but it is quite viable if you do have extra chi. I might make a Cloud Eruption genie just for this purpose now lol.

I propose we just ignore OllieTheKid on acount of him being lvl 80, and likely a failure.

Fighting sins: 1v1 is the only situation where you'll have any problem with them. Generally, i find i could probably make a pk macro on a sin to kill an equally geared archer. Evidence? Sin comes out of stealth double sparked, and you get hit with Headhunt. If the sin is even close to your gear level, this will hurt. Thre is no way you' going to live trough the next few seconds of pain without burning your genie, either. Faith, AD, and Expell are all viable alternatives. BoC might work, depending on dex.

If you do get out of it, all the sin has to do is hit his stealth button. If you used any of the first 3 skills, you have probably lost already. All the sin has to do is sit in stealth untill headhunt cools down (30 seconds?) Unless you built your genie specifically to do this, you cant use expell, ad or faith when he comes out of stealth again, and you get fried. If you somehow do (a smart sin will have read this straight off your character info), all the sin has to do is teleport to a nearby mob(if you AD or Expell), AD himself and keep DDing(Faith), use Condensed and immobilize you when his stun is wearing off(Expell). Then seal. Then Occult once your expell wears off. Your chances of getting out of THAT if the sin is wearing gear even remotely comparable to yours ar slim to none.

Both shadow teleport and Occult Ice will stun you trough Expell.

As for the nub approach: if you unstealth a good sin, that sin will:
a) Stealth again.
b) Shadow teleport to you and pwn you
c) Shadow jump/teleport away and lol at you.
d) Throw up CoD and Tidal Protection, pull out a bow, (double spark?) and **** you.
e) Occult Ice.
f) Maze Steps > walk into your range > lolpwn
g) Any of the above, All of the above, Several of the above, Other tactics wich i have not mentioned, such as:
h) Roll face across keyboard. Then tell you how noob you are because you died.
(because most good sins ar still morons.)

Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »

And all the archer has to do, if the assassin decides to run away, is: wings of grace, town portal. (Or, teleport incense, if town portal is too hot...)

bad for my ego. Also, this thread is about killing sins, i believe. As such, i should post my opinions on that, not on how to avoid beign killed by sins. If that were the question, the answer would be simple: have a lvl 105 full r9 +12 sin with you at all times.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

And hope the sin doesn't know how to use throatcut or knife throw. Also I don't think your +5 armor gives you enough HP to survive 28-40 dagger strikes during the 10 seconds of town portal / incense channeling...

Archers are older than sins. Ergo, Sins are more OP.

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Find where they live and cut their internet cable.

I think you can take this a bit further. Sneak into their house, knock them out, and delete their char. Kidnap them for the 7 days that it takes for deletion. And ta da! That sin can never kill you again.