Reset Lvls. 105s-103s back to at least 102.
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Since when level matters in this game? You only need levels to equip better gears, or you think that a 105 with leg/tt90 stands a chance against a equally skilled 101 R9?.
This game is all about gears, after 100(vana/r8) 101(R9) what really matter is how good your gear is/how skilled you are, not your level.0 -
Ceiba - Sanctuary wrote: »Since when level matters in this game? You only need levels to equip better gears, or you think that a 105 with leg/tt90 stands a chance against a equally skilled 101 R9?.
This game is all about gears, after 100(vana/r8) 101(R9) what really matter is how good your gear is/how skilled you are, not your level.
it kinda matters if you're a sin
but we can put a strikethrough through the word "skill" for that[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Seriously who cares that people leveled to 105? The only people that got 100% gains from it were assassins for PvP. Oh sure you can bring up the fact that now the quote "legit" people cannot see them with detect pots anymore but if I remember correctly, assassins were as much a problem as they are now. Now if you want to say this breaks PvE.........Troll more please.When it all comes down to it the person with +12 JOSD is the true king,in other words, this game is all about gear. And about leveling 1-103???You can make that easily with some good FF and fapping on the side.......I want someone to give me a concrete reason how DG'ing to 105 really effects the game.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]I know what your thinking.0
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Reducto - Harshlands wrote: »I just wanna quote this part from your post and give my stupid reply:
There is actually a secret ToS that only few knows about it. and it says that if you use the real given ToS and by that complying that you will not use no glitches than you will simply NOT get the rewards that the ones that will not obey the real seen given ToS (will brake the rules / use the glitches) will get (in this case, if you didnt used fc glitch and played by the rules, then you are left behind from those that DID use the glitch and by that broke the rules without no punishment on them)
So the moral story is: in future if you see some glitch use it while you can, and don't worry that something bad will happen to you...
That's what I do now. When I was younger I would try to play exactly by the rules on online games. What did I get by doing that? I got left behind lol. Now, if someone discovers a glitch, I do it too.
Instead of qqing about the dragons glitch why don't you do it? So if everyone does the glitch it will be fair for everyone and pw won't ever do anything to you because they wouldn't ban their whole playerbase for that, lol.0 -
OMG guys is not JUST about level. It about this. YOU DON'T LOOSE EXP after dying. So you don't have to be afraid of loosing exp. and you don't have to buy scrolls to save your exp. So you can farm, pk etc. without problem.Ceiba - Sanctuary wrote: »Since when level matters in this game? You only need levels to equip better gears, or you think that a 105 with leg/tt90 stands a chance against a equally skilled 101 R9?.
This game is all about gears, after 100(vana/r8) 101(R9) what really matter is how good your gear is/how skilled you are, not your level.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »This thread is too funny...b:chuckle
102-103 is not hard just messing around doing like nothing specific to level, hell some of us got to 101-102 before hypers/bh's/fcc/etc was even out.
And in all honesty, once past 101 (because of R9) levels do not really matter unless you are a Sin for stelth or you REALLY want 5 extra attribute points to put somewhere LOL. b:bye
sry, but no one cares if u spent 1 year+ getting to lvl 100 before hypers/bh/fc/etc. its all about now where u can do this **** glitch and get there in a matter of days.
also lvls passed 101 WILL eventually matter once they implement rank 10 for the 105s. and its only a matter of time before they do that. once that day comes everyone is going to QQ at the 200+ 105s that will automatically have rank 10 from day 1 all because they spent a week or 2 in order to get to 105 where as everyone else will have to grind for 3-6 months in order to reach 105.0 -
Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »also lvls passed 101 WILL eventually matter once they implement rank 10 for the 105s. and its only a matter of time before they do that..
I wasn't aware that it was a fact. For all you know, they could implement *INSERT NAME HERE* gear that requires 102; or, they could implement nothing at all. Then what? My point is suppositions mean nothing.
Also, Rosie wasn't claiming anything other than how easy it was to get to 101/102...Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »I wasn't aware that it was a fact. For all you know, they could implement *INSERT NAME HERE* gear that requires 102; or, they could implement nothing at all. Then what? My point is suppositions mean nothing.
Also, Rosie wasn't claiming anything other than how easy it was to get to 101/102...
if this game wants to grow as a game then it will eventually add content for the level cap or increase the level cap altogether. that is not a "if" it will happen but a "when" it will happen.
if they want it to completly bomb and shut down then ya, they wont update content for those levels at all.
also ya its easy to get to 100/102 before this glitch. but post glitch it is now even EASIER to get to it. thats the point.
its easy to go from point A to point B on a bike compared to walking, but its even easier to do it in a car and much faster.0 -
OMG...seriously...? You are actually putting a thread like this here?? 1: There is absolutely no way PW could control or log or whatever who used the glitch...2: There is no way you can just reset everyone...some people (yes there were a lot of glitchers) worked their butts of to get their levels. 105 is pretty reachable for many people now, someone already did it before, why is it so hard to believe now? A lot has changed since that sin got 105, gear's are better etc etc. People that live in FF (who has more time normal people..lb:chuckle) can get high levels easily...also remember...some people have been playing for 3+ years...
You say 102 is debatable...I'm 102 and I've been playing for 2 and half years (with about 6 - 8 months quitting inbetween). I have never FF'd a lot. My levels are dailies and quests and hypering a few FF's (like I said I don't too many FF's...I find it boring)...so if i didn't quit I'd probably easily be 103+ right now..so you are saying because you are lazy and haven't played PW as extensively as others and doubt that high levels actually worked for their levels, they should be reset just because you are jealous...cmon man grow up, stop QQ'ing and get to work on your levels or quit now if you just gonna QQ about petty things...seriously..."Care Bear" b:chuckle
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The experience from the dragon glitch has been fixed. That was the right thing to do. Thank you PWE. Something else that needs to be done now is to reset the levels on characters that have obviously abused the glitch back to a reasonable level that is obtainable without it. Doing this would make leveling more satisfactory for everybody, especially in the eyes of the honest players who have not abused this glitch. Not resetting the levels would be a wrong move. It shows every player that they can get away exploiting a glitch or anything against the TOS rules with little or no consequent at all. The short couple day ban is not enough for the people who have been reported. These people will continue to have an edge over honest players from abusing the glitch. Levels do matter. Immediate permanent ban would be harsh but show PWE means what they say. That leaves us with what I think is a minimal and it needs to be done now. Reset the higher levels that have leveled when the glitch went public back to something that is reasonable to obtain. Bump this thread if you agree!
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The experience from the dragon glitch has been fixed. That was the right thing to do. Thank you PWE. Something else that needs to be done now is to reset the levels on characters that have obviously abused the glitch back to a reasonable level that is obtainable without it. Doing this would make leveling more satisfactory for everybody, especially in the eyes of the honest players who have not abused this glitch. Not resetting the levels would be a wrong move. It shows every player that they can get away exploiting a glitch or anything against the TOS rules with little or no consequent at all. The short couple day ban is not enough for the people who have been reported. These people will continue to have an edge over honest players from abusing the glitch. Levels do matter. Immediate permanent ban would be harsh but show PWE means what they say. That leaves us with what I think is a minimal and it needs to be done now. Reset the higher levels that have leveled when the glitch went public back to something that is reasonable to obtain. Bump this thread if you agree!
Yes, some sort of punishment would be nice. However, keep in mind that :
1) The majority of the ones who got to 105 are the very active, tw faction, probably major cashshopping players, with multiple alts. I wouldn't risk to **** those customers if I were PWE either, even less permaban them.
2) The only real gain of 105 would be the merit and esteem of other players. Since they are looked on as "just another goon glitcher", and even scunned on by some, who actually cares they are 105.
3) There is some lvl ranking, you get mails on reaching some lvl, and coreconnect prices, so they keep records on lvls. It's not hard to see when someone abuses glitch. There is no real proof needed of screenshots in fcc, if you see someone lvl from 102 to 105 in a week or 2. It's easy to estimate the maximum exp someone could gain per day, and thus a minimum time needed to lvl. They know, with some exceptions of casual glitchers, who abused it. They never took hard reprepressive measures. Why would they start now?Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »sorry thats not enought.
some ppl have leveld chars from 1 all the way to 105 with this glitch. resseting it to "at least 102" still means that they have gotten 102 levels from doing this.
the best course of action is to reset 100% (ONE HUNDRED PERCENT) of the levels gained from this glitch. so that means if u leveld from 100 all the way to 105 u will be reset back to level 100. if u leveld from level 1 all the way to 105 or w/e level then u get reset back to level 1. its only fair and it is the best course of action given the situation.
Punishing the 1 to 101 range is not reasonable. You're not gonna put an 8 year-old in jail for stealing a candybar. 1 to 101 can be done in a week to 2 weeks without abusing glitch anyway. So who cares about that. Got to stay realistic, only 101+, maybe 100+ if you can't solo/duo fcc, actually takes time and determination to lvl without glitch abuse.0 -
Just laughing my *** off! why should GM's ban the ppl using the glitch when they are the biggest cash shoppers? :-)
Well anyway theres no way to ban each person who used just fix it by next wednesday or remove the Dragon Boss and its doneYou got trolled
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Punishing the 1 to 101 range is not reasonable. You're not gonna put an 8 year-old in jail for stealing a candybar. 1 to 101 can be done in a week to 2 weeks without abusing glitch anyway. So who cares about that. Got to stay realistic, only 101+, maybe 100+ if you can't solo/duo fcc, actually takes time and determination to lvl without glitch abuse.[/QUOTE]
Uhm correction, it can be done within 1 day, I remember when the earthguards came out, that very evening there were already 100's running around that lived in FF for that whole day (and the goon glitch wasn't out/abused back then) b:chuckle"Care Bear" b:chuckle
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Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »Uhm correction, it can be done within 1 day, I remember when the earthguards came out, that very evening there were already 100's running around that lived in FF for that whole day (and the goon glitch wasn't out/abused back then) b:chuckle
Without using the goon glitch, I don't see how that's even mathematically possible. Even if a person had an unlimited stack of oracles and 10 hyper activations, I just don't see how you could get from 1 to 100 in one day without the glitch.
But please, do enlighten me. I'm very curious to know how anyone could have legitimately pulled that off.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »Without using the goon glitch, I don't see how that's even mathematically possible. Even if a person had an unlimited stack of oracles and 10 hyper activations, I just don't see how you could get from 1 to 100 in one day without the glitch.
But please, do enlighten me. I'm very curious to know how anyone could have legitimately pulled that off.
I didn't do it so I woudn't know, I myself was surprised, but I'm guessing it would be plvling as you gain insane amount like that...go in with lv100+ sin hyper the whole run or just big room or whatever. You can get 1-25'sih in less than 1 hour, so it's totally mathematically possible"Care Bear" b:chuckle
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Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »Uhm correction, it can be done within 1 day, I remember when the earthguards came out, that very evening there were already 100's running around that lived in FF for that whole day (and the goon glitch wasn't out/abused back then) b:chuckle
I actually think it was. But doesn't change the point. 1 to 100 is really fast without abusing any glitch, and thus not even worth punishing when applying the principle of a punishment reflecting the gravity of the crime.
Edit to Tsukyini and Eilexa : I also consider it pretty much impossible. You are limited to 1h and 10 activations on x12. Considering a full exp room doesn't even give a lvl anymore with a lvl100+ in squad at end 60s, on the activations it's not possible. However, you could consider someone doing fcc for his alt 24h in a row using exp scrolls (that don't have down time). Some would be crazy enough to do that, just to be the first lvl100 earthguard.0 -
Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »I didn't do it so I woudn't know, I myself was surprised, but I'm guessing it would be plvling as you gain insane amount like that...go in with lv100+ sin hyper the whole run or just big room or whatever. You can get 1-25'sih in less than 1 hour, so it's totally mathematically possible
You'd either run out of hyper time or activations way before you could get 100 just from that. Also just because you can go 1-25 in one run does not mean you can then go 25-50, 50-75, 75-100.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »OMG...seriously...? You are actually putting a thread like this here?? 1: There is absolutely no way PW could control or log or whatever who used the glitch...2: There is no way you can just reset everyone...some people (yes there were a lot of glitchers) worked their butts of to get their levels. 105 is pretty reachable for many people now, someone already did it before, why is it so hard to believe now? A lot has changed since that sin got 105, gear's are better etc etc. People that live in FF (who has more time normal people..lb:chuckle) can get high levels easily...also remember...some people have been playing for 3+ years...
You say 102 is debatable...I'm 102 and I've been playing for 2 and half years (with about 6 - 8 months quitting inbetween). I have never FF'd a lot. My levels are dailies and quests and hypering a few FF's (like I said I don't too many FF's...I find it boring)...so if i didn't quit I'd probably easily be 103+ right now..so you are saying because you are lazy and haven't played PW as extensively as others and doubt that high levels actually worked for their levels, they should be reset just because you are jealous...cmon man grow up, stop QQ'ing and get to work on your levels or quit now if you just gonna QQ about petty things...seriously...
Agreed Eil.
To creator of this topic:
in the end, all glitches need to be punished? from resetting levels, pk counts and even items and coins obtained.
You'll be the only person playing pw on the whole servers for only a short period before all servers shutdown for your honesty and integrity b:surrenderb:victory- cuz pw would have declared bankkrupt b:cry for banning all players except you. lmao!!! b:chuckle0 -
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Faily mcfailfail.
Awful ideas, stupid assumptions, really bad ideas, fail.
Failure, bricks and bricks and bricks of fail.
Some arguing over who has the most failest idea in the thread.
Declarations over fails.
Failed fails.
And this angry post with a fail quote.
There you have it.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
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Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »You'd either run out of hyper time or activations way before you could get 100 just from that. Also just because you can go 1-25 in one run does not mean you can then go 25-50, 50-75, 75-100.
LMAO, I know that, I'm not a noob. I was just saying 1-100 was done by some in one day and that I didn't think (I still dont) it was done via glitching etc. You asked how it was done, I said I didn't know, but most likely it was all FF. I agree with Empu though that it might've been scrolls or whatever, as you said some people might just be crazy enough to do that (and rich enough)."Care Bear" b:chuckle
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Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »For anyone just now joining this thread, let me sum it up:
There you have it.
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Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »LMAO, I know that, I'm not a noob. I was just saying 1-100 was done by some in one day and that I didn't think (I still dont) it was done via glitching etc. You asked how it was done, I said I didn't know, but most likely it was all FF. I agree with Empu though that it might've been scrolls or whatever, as you said some people might just be crazy enough to do that (and rich enough).
emm dont be crazy, in one day there is no way to lvl a character from 1-100 (without the new fc glitch)
to lvl all to 100 you will need total of 303,626,185 exp...
and lets say that somehow magically you get 5m exp per every run in fc, and lats say you can do this for 20 times in the days (which you can not, since to get 5mil exp you ll have to hyper all fc, but lets say again magically) you ll gain only 100m exp, and thats only 1/3 from 100lvl exp..
... so you must be wrong about that that you have seen 100 e.guard in the first day...0 -
sad part is people probably did dump that kinda cash into stones and did it for 40 hs straight. maybe the reason there taking there time fixing it.0
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How hard could it be? So many people level 105. Hmmm, it took this guy 2 years to do it, and this other guy created his account and was 105 3 days later. Hmmmmmmmm which one could possibly be a glitcher? On noes I can't tell!!Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »OMG...seriously...? You are actually putting a thread like this here?? 1: There is absolutely no way PW could control or log or whatever who used the glitch...2: There is no way you can just reset everyone...some people (yes there were a lot of glitchers) worked their butts of to get their levels. 105 is pretty reachable for many people now, someone already did it before, why is it so hard to believe now? A lot has changed since that sin got 105, gear's are better etc etc. People that live in FF (who has more time normal people..lb:chuckle) can get high levels easily...also remember...some people have been playing for 3+ years...
105 being 'reachable' is a bit of an overstatement. Even as a 5aps, +10 Sin it takes weeks and months of solo FC to do this. The sheer amount of exp needed is insanely high (we're talking billions), and so is the time and dedication of doing it. Kudos to those few who had before this glitch was discovered, because it was quite a thing to do.0 -
Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »How hard could it be? So many people level 105. Hmmm, it took this guy 2 years to do it, and this other guy created his account and was 105 3 days later. Hmmmmmmmm which one could possibly be a glitcher? On noes I can't tell!!
105 being 'reachable' is a bit of an overstatement. Even as a 5aps, +10 Sin it takes weeks and months of solo FC to do this. The sheer amount of exp needed is insanely high (we're talking billions), and so is the time and dedication of doing it. Kudos to those few who had before this glitch was discovered, because it was quite a thing to do.
So the people that followed Kitamura's guide on how to lvl your way to 105 within a matter of a few days, given it takes an awefull alot of money, time and dedication + energy drink and sugar rushing food to stay awake, should fall under that roll back too ?
Seriously, there is -hardly- a good way to tell, for someone on the outside without screenshots and coldhard evidence of glitching, to make that decision of a roll back.
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Have any of you actually thought about why PW hasn't done this?
Ill tell you.
Money.
Have you noticed that mose people who are abusing the glitch have R8/9 with +10 weapons?
Ofc they're not going to perma-ban them, or roll them back to 100. (partically 100, because of the R9 element). PW is just run by greedy fat cats who need a ladder to crawl out their own ****. If they did perma ban, or re-roll their chars after fixing the glitch, there is a chanse that they would quit; meaning that PW would be losing more money. Do you people really think that they'll get rid of their own source of finanace?
And to all of you who are going to simply comment 'they can't because they can't log kills!' Yes they can. Ever little thing that appears on your screen on PW can be tracked and logged if nessesary, that includes chat, exp, spirit, kills and damage. The reason they ask for screen shots in tickets is to speed up the process.Haters gunna love this ^
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Do you have link on this guide? Because as I know he was doing it couple months. So?AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »So the people that followed Kitamura's guide on how to lvl your way to 105 within a matter of a few days, given it takes an awefull alot of money, time and dedication + energy drink and sugar rushing food to stay awake, should fall under that roll back too ?
Seriously, there is -hardly- a good way to tell, for someone on the outside without screenshots and coldhard evidence of glitching, to make that decision of a roll back.
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