Reset Lvls. 105s-103s back to at least 102.

lol at this.

for one i didnt mind higher lvls gooning up since after gear& lvl 100 there isnt much to do anymore this was an easier way to skip a year or 2 of lvling to 105 lol ( counting rl in <.>),

thought i am happy on the other side they fixed it the part of selling goons to lowbies who don't learn to play their **** charas was terrible ( only not for the one selling <.<)

Zuuka - Sanctuary wrote: »

Can someone tell me what this Goon glitch thing is?

to sum it up its apprently a glitch that is done on a boss to where it summons 1000+ goons and the squad that is invovled in dong that glicth kills all the goons at once with AoEing and what not.

Krisnda wrote: »

I wouldn't mind this.

On topic, I would think they would have a log on everyone's character and could see if you were doing wierd things like:

-Player used skill on Dragoon x50
-Player moved to coords xxx, xxx
-Player moved to coords xxx, xxx
-Player used Item
-Player used skill on Dragoon x85

Then they could look at people who killed an unusual amount of Dragoons, and figure out who has been Goon Glitchin' b:laugh

I had originally thought the same thing, but if they do keep logs of those details, why haven't they already bothered to write a program to search those logs and flag players with super high dragoon kill counts? I mean, there are people who clearly used it, and they go unpunished. That leads me to believe that either they simply don't have logs like that, or they just don't care enough to put forth the effort.

I agree. Reset all cheaters to level 1. If they don't punish them what is example for others? They just tell us GO AHEAD and AGAINST the ToS. Nothing will happen to you.

Just search the player database for all players 100 to 105 looking for time between levels. It'll stand out like a sore thumb.

If they made, for instance, level 102 to 103 in one month check their log record to assure they werent actually playing 24/7. If they were I'd check the account for bot activity lol. If they were just playing a few hours a day you know they were glitching. Then comes the fun.
ISP Permaban so all accounts of the player are wiped out. All the gear, all the saved coin, all the gold they may have had - gone. It's within the TOS, im sure, to do this and it would send a strong message to all players.
If you wanted to be super nice you could offer an amnesty period where glitchers could turn themselves in. Then they'd only rolled back to level one and have their account somehow banned from fc until level 100 when it would then be monitored for unusual leveling. A good database programmer should be able to make this happen in a fairly short period of time.

with vpn being easy and affordable these days many even free its nearly imposable to ip ban anyone. in fact i even tripped that proxy bot being my isp uses dynamic ranges.

with the expolite fixed you can defiantly delevel them and for the 1-105 ones you can even delete them outright. but when you start messing with range bans your likely going to ban people who don't even know this happen. and the smarter will walk around it anyways. and be back with new accounts so its not something you do anymore.

well give them time the gms are not even hear until Tuesday. and being they fixed the glitch for the most part maybe that's the second step in this. it was kinda pointless to ban them when they could roll back in do the same thing in under a day and be back to where they where.

when stuff like this goes down it normally takes a few weeks after they fix the problem to remove the cheaters. go threw db by hand and so on to make sure they got the right ones.

ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver wrote: »

"levelled a char to 30"
"levelled a char to 60"
"levelled a char to 90"
etc etc.

It even gives the date you accomplished it, right on CC. It'd be pretty easy to tell if someone frost glitched if they went from 1 to 105 in a day lol.

In FFXI, at level 50 and every 5 levels afterwards you have to do a "limit break" quest if you want to continue leveling. It would be pretty funny if PWE changed it so that the cultivation quests functioned as a sort of limit break and you had to complete them before you could level further. b:chuckle

I'm half assing it and I'm almost 102. I maybe do 1 solo FF a day average. Its not hard for anyone that actually cares about leveling to get there legit.

Not sure why they didn't just nerf normal dragoons exp in the first place till they could find a suitable solution. Could have just as easily reprogrammed the boss not to spawn dragoons on the first attack.

I agree with some people in this thread (too lazy to go back to quote who and who, so i'll generalize).

Logs should be accessible.

Most people know how much exp u need to go from 102 to 103 to 104 to 105.

Getting to 102, using "simple" ways ain't terribly long. If you are married : Marriage quest + Cube of fate runs + Oht daily + Possible exp reward from bh each day..a bit of grinding (lol ?), and I think someone can do it in 1 month 1/2 or so. Mix in that FC runs, hypered (not glicthed) and it's doable whithin a month time frame. I personnaly do not think it's achivable in less then a week whitout using the goons, but i'm no math specialist.

Now, 102 to 103 in a "short" time, starts to be questionable indeed. Even if u hyper everyday a x 12, Pretty positive it can't be donw in a week (whitout goons of course)

103-104 ? Double if not triple the time it took you to get from 102 to 103.

105 ? That's long (whitout gooning)

Now to me, it seems rather easy. Not using goons, i'm 99.9% positive that whatever hours u put in game, u cannot do 101-105 in a month. So yeah, core connect gives achievements at 90 then at 105, just filter the time it took between the 2. Less then a month to get 105 from 90 ? 99.9% sure they glitched.

People would not like me as a gm, but I would see that, I would roll back their char to last achievement gotten (at 90). You don't like it ? You cannot equip your precious rank gear anymore ? Should have thought about it before, plain and simple. ToS states they can permantly termianate a account. Lucky you woudn't get that but just a rollback.

I remember days when rep meant something. That either u had all quests done, helped ni fb's, collected darkness stamps, did one man armies, even at the limit, farmed warsong for emblems to turn into badges. Now rep mostly means nothing except you have a big wallet or good merchanding skills. Sad how it turned out.

But yeah, check logs, check dates/timeframe and take action.. Else someone somewhere will find another glitch and will say "hey we didn't get nothing from this famous glitch, so we won't get anything from next one we'll use"

Of course , words of the wise don't come from me, but from gm's/cm's when they will have time to get back to us.

ooH i will LOl to if they do something about the glitchers

actually ill start loling nowb:chuckle

runican wrote: »

The experience from the dragon glitch has been fixed. That was the right thing to do. Thank you PWE. Something else that needs to be done now is to reset the levels on characters that have obviously abused the glitch back to a reasonable level that is obtainable without it. Doing this would make leveling more satisfactory for everybody, especially in the eyes of the honest players who have not abused this glitch. Not resetting the levels would be a wrong move. It shows every player that they can get away exploiting a glitch or anything against the TOS rules with little or no consequent at all. The short couple day ban is not enough for the people who have been reported. These people will continue to have an edge over honest players from abusing the glitch. Levels do matter. Immediate permanent ban would be harsh but show PWE means what they say. That leaves us with what I think is a minimal and it needs to be done now. Reset the higher levels that have leveled when the glitch went public back to something that is reasonable to obtain. Bump this thread if you agree!

You have been trolled. The awarded experience for killing a dragon has not been changed. Yesterday I was doing 3rd boss and I earned the usual experience.

I love this third boss thing. You can get to level 105 in a reasonable amount of time and all the classes are welcome to 3rd boss, unlike the regular frost where all people want is character with high aps.

I've had a lot of fun there so far. I hope it never gets fixed so everyone has a chance to experience it someday.

Reducto - Harshlands wrote: »

I just wanna quote this part from your post and give my stupid reply:
There is actually a secret ToS that only few knows about it. and it says that if you use the real given ToS and by that complying that you will not use no glitches than you will simply NOT get the rewards that the ones that will not obey the real seen given ToS (will brake the rules / use the glitches) will get (in this case, if you didnt used fc glitch and played by the rules, then you are left behind from those that DID use the glitch and by that broke the rules without no punishment on them)

So the moral story is: in future if you see some glitch use it while you can, and don't worry that something bad will happen to you...

Well I don't view ur reply as stupid really.

Cause it's exactly what PW is making us believe right now. Glitch away and we will randomly ban when/if we have time and when/if we feel like it. Oh and if you put more money then the average person, your "file case" will go at the bottom of the pile so we might/might not get to you.

This thread is too funny...b:chuckle

102-103 is not hard just messing around doing like nothing specific to level, hell some of us got to 101-102 before hypers/bh's/fcc/etc was even out.

And in all honesty, once past 101 (because of R9) levels do not really matter unless you are a Sin for stelth or you REALLY want 5 extra attribute points to put somewhere LOL. b:bye