Mystic vs. Other Classes Skill Comparison

I like your post....guys.b:thanks

Water_Sage - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I think that Absorb Soul really should be mentioned here. I am not the highest level Mystic out there but I can tell you that Absorb Soul can easily hit 15-18k+ physical damage if you take advantage of the effect bonus of Nature's Vengeance. It is a very slow spell to cast but you can negate that somewhat with Rapid Growth + Windrage Incense in tough situations.

Another thing you fail to mention is the Aegis Sphere + Martyrdom buffs granted by the Salvation summon. If you are prudent and use these things on the tank of the party, you can greatly reduce the amount you will need to heal him or her, which greatly helps with 10k+ HP tanks.

My vote has to go with the mystic overall, based on versatility alone. Clerics have their place and I'd never try to take their place, but when it comes to healing only I can easily go toe to toe to with a cleric because I use everything available.

Just my two cents b:cute

Absorb soul is one of the best skills out there. I did a duel against a 101 Psy and this is how I won: I had salvation leech first which gave me buff and I wasnt affect by stuns at beggining of duel, then Rapid Growth > NV > AS...done..Psy is dead, no spark. AS is really fast when you have channeling (right now Im casting 2.9 sec no buffs, 1.8 secs with RG and .65 secs with Demon spark+RG). The nice thing is that AS didnt gave me damage back on Psy defense skill, not sure if thats the way it works since AS can pass thru barriers of defense.b:dirty

Im not to familiar with psy skills since I never played one. but here is thread posted before about AS http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1018921
b:victory

ur comparisons dont include sage or demon nor for falling petals it doesnt include the buff it gets from salvation

it would be cool if you also add the range of the skills.

Venomancer has the shortest spell range of all magic characters(27 meters) and Wizard having the longest(30 meters). it's never good to have less range, means you have to get closer to the danger

BIG UPDATE! (and long needed lol)

-added more skills that are comparable to Mystic skills.
-updated "comments" on most skills.
-reorganized the arrangement of skills
-added in "more information" links for the Thicket/BIDS comparison and also Absorb Soul info.

all i know is i love my mystic i can take on bosses by myself which i could not with other classes and iv tried all and this is what im happy with and im mainly a cast but i enjoyed the seeker as well very fun and has great attacks. but the mystic is for me ps on raging tide server take GoddessAOE through frost covered city please , I ned the exp lol pleaseeeeee all mystics unite lmaob:bye

Over the fall, I was speculating on the forums about what the next classes should be. Most people wanted druids, battlemages, necromancers or shadowknights. Glad to see druids were one of the classes that came out. I've got a mystic I made the other day and I'm loving it so far.

All classes have a weakness. I think it's only fair that mystics have a weakness. We have extremely fast casting, extremely low cooldowns, long range, etc.
A druid/mystic class is a hybrid. Made to handle any scenario, but not as well as the primary class for that scenario. I don't mind having massive mana burn considering I'm pro at multi-tasking.

I can tank, DD, spam heal, AoE debuff, AoE heal, and so forth all at the same time. I also have an instant rez buff that will eventually last up to 30 minutes. The fact that a mystic can do all of this at the same time is its strength.

When you compare the individual skills to those of other classes, of course they'll look bad.

And to the constant mana burning, there's a reason why if you look at a mystic guide, the only build it lists is pure magic. It's simply impossible to properly play a mystic with any other build.

All in all, the only two disadvantages I see to playing as a mystic are massive mana burning (unless you're pure magic) and the fact that I doubt I'd be able to solo something like TT 3-1 or FC by myself, unlike a Herc Veno.
But I'm not playing a Herc Veno, I'm playing a mystic. Just as sins are the best 1 vs 1 class in the game, I see mystics as the best multitasking class in the game, and possibly the only one that can actually do so (besides maybe a blademaster).

mellaniebr wrote: »

Why Mystics dont have skills in level 79 and level 100?

They do I just don't think they have updated the in game skills window to show it. You can find them on the mystic tab and they are at the bottom, pretty straight forward.

http://www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php

Oh! Thnx, Now I was excited, to reach right levels.

Mystic's
Verdant Shell
Max at level 54
Level 10
Mana 567
Chan 1 sec
Cast 1.5 sec
Cool 20 sec
Adds 80% of armors wood, water, and physical DMG resistances.

Comparable to:
Cleric's
Vanguard Spirit/Magical Shell
Max at level 36/43
Level 10
Mana 108/129
Chan .5 sec
Cast 1 sec
Cool 1 sec
Adds 60% of armors physical/magical defenses.

Wizard's
Stone Barrier
Max at level 54
Level 10
Mana 162
Chan 1 sec
Cast 1.2 sec
Cool 3 sec
Increase earth and physical resistances by 100%.


Comment: Wizard's obviously gives more physical defense, but you can only use 1 of their sheilds at a time, so they are lacking all element defenses except earth. Mystics has only a little less physical defense but misses the earth, fire, and metal resistances. Clerics covers all elemental and physical defenses, but even less than Mystics. Cleric is able to buff other people though. Mystics Verdant Shell stacked with Cleric buffs gives a good advantage, and a little more extra magic defenses as well, compared to Wizards.


This thread has many flaws, probably one of the worst is that you mention skills but the comparison is not correct because you dont mention how this skills work with other skills.

You say mystic has more magic defence but wiz sage/demon version give a huge boost. (Clerics magic shell protection is not improved with demon/sage version) Also wizards have a buff (lvl 79 skill) wich increases metal,water,earth,fire deff by 1000% for some seconds giving wiz higest magic deff posible on game (I got about 60k magic deff for this buff duration) Finnaly the wiz only genie skill Mage Star absorbs magic damage.

Ok I've read all of this topic and have a skill to compare.

I've heard there is an issue with the 79 Mystic skills not showing up, but as they are on ecatomb I assume they exist?

Mystic: lvl 79
Clear Thoughts
Level 1
Self cast only
Mana 100
Channel 2.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 5.0 minutes
Weapon Unarmed, Magic instrument

Over 9 seconds, recover your current Mana
plus 2000.



Venomancer: lvl 92
●Nature's Grace
Level Sage
Range 27.0 meters
Channel 2.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 300.0 seconds (6min)
Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

Recovers 60% of maximum MP.




On a second note I've read alot of chat about Summoned pets not being as good as Hercs, but personly if our pets are of the standard of a Magmite or Qingfu, I've got to say...
AWESOME we have swimming Qingfu b:victory

Wizard's obviously gives more physical defense, but you can only use 1 of their sheilds at a time, so they are lacking all element defenses except earth. Mystics has only a little less physical defense but misses the earth, fire, and metal resistances. Clerics covers all elemental and physical defenses, but even less than Mystics. Cleric is able to buff other people though. Mystics Verdant Shell stacked with Cleric buffs gives a good advantage, and a little more extra magic defenses as well, compared to Wizards.

sage version of verdant shell is 100% p defense i beleive (90% normally and 10% sage effect for 100%) someone can correct me on that tho. altho im pretty sure its 100% since demon is 90%.

im not sure if energy leeching chihyu stacks with verdant shell or if it has diffrent icons, but if it does then thats 200% p def. then theres also natures barrier.

energy leeching storm mistress gives 100% magic defense along with a 200% magic attack boost to top it off. so they are not shy in that department either.

also energy leeching salvation gives u a 4000 damage absorb shield and a 4.5k falling petals.

so mystics have ALOT of defense options. the energy leech buffs dont last long, but there much better defensive buffs then wizzards are clerics imo. lots of ways to survive.

On a second note I've read alot of chat about Summoned pets not being as good as Hercs, but personly if our pets are of the standard of a Magmite or Qingfu, I've got to say...
AWESOME we have swimming Qingfu

mystic pets have the potential to be better then a herc because all of our summons are effected by our gear and refines. so just imagine a chiyu or craglord mystic with rank 9 and +12 refines.

hercs arent all that great nowadays anyway since there are so many tanks in the game now. seekers being the newest secondary tank.

mryc wrote: »

Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

sage version of verdant shell is 100% p defense i beleive (90% normally and 10% sage effect for 100%) someone can correct me on that tho. altho im pretty sure its 100% since demon is 90%.

Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The comparison was at level 10, the wizard's demon stone barrier is 150%

150 % stone barrier without the sage spark so mystics will still have higher defense then a demon wizzard.

Tsubakey - Heavens Tear wrote: »

im wondering, does rapid growth stack with the energy leech of storm mistress for a total of +250% magic attack? if it does then combining that with thicket+extreme poison+creeper=owned.

but ya i feel like mystics are lacking severly in alot of areas. i find no need at all for there healing skills. the only healing skill they realy need is vital/healing herb and break in the clouds. what they TRULY need is a MP restoration skill/plant. they burn mana so fast for skills that dont even do much dmg at all.

Honestly, I have found vital herb to be a sacrificeable skill for my AoE DD & Heal Assist Mystic, while the other healing spells seem vital to me. I am just training it up now - at lvl 88.

Barbs and Sins have come to expect our protection buff before they run out into the fray of battle, our AoE heal is awesome, and Break in the clouds is a must.

I have also sacrificed my Storm Mistress, but thanks to your post I will be looking to raise it up as well.

I still think my Cragglord can wait until I get other stuff I need more.