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over 90% is possilbe to acheive, it just isn't very smart as the cost is rediculous to get the -9,-12 or-18 ornaments/other gearn, unless you are the one that makes the pieces you need to get such high channeling. And remember, there is always cast time also, so its never going to be like, facemash - 10 skills all going off at once.
And you will be gimping yourself if some other part of your build. Most likely your pdef will be lacking affecting your survivability, or your attack power will be gimped due to a sucky crit%. To get the most out of a caster, you need a balance of power/speed/survivability. Can't cast that skill when your HP bar reads 0.0 -
BizHerc - Heavens Tear wrote: »over 90% is possilbe to acheive, it just isn't very smart as the cost is rediculous to get the -9,-12 or-18 ornaments/other gearn, unless you are the one that makes the pieces you need to get such high channeling. And remember, there is always cast time also, so its never going to be like, facemash - 10 skills all going off at once.
And you will be gimping yourself if some other part of your build. Most likely your pdef will be lacking affecting your survivability, or your attack power will be gimped due to a sucky crit%. To get the most out of a caster, you need a balance of power/speed/survivability. Can't cast that skill when your HP bar reads 0.
You're wrong. They(devs) made it IMPOSSIBLE to get over 90% channel. It resets back to 90% if you manage to get enough channel to go higher.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Checked using Eye of Observation.
-67% base
-92% with Demonspark
-97% with Demon Rapid Growth
-90% with Demonspark and Demon Rapid Growth0 -
so according to jasrina's test you can go over 90% but once you go over 99 it goes back to 90, haha i guess the best would be 99% then.
casters still have casting time i think, still quite a significant factor when you consider caster's dps[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Jolin - Dreamweaver wrote: »so according to jasrina's test you can go over 90% but once you go over 99 it goes back to 90, haha i guess the best would be 99% then.
casters still have casting time i think, still quite a significant factor when you consider caster's dps
I thought I read somewhere that you can't go over 90 :O
Wizzy forums ftl
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More tests:
-69% base
-99% with Demon Rapid Growth
-70% base
-90% with Demon Rapid Growth
This confirms that -99% is the cap. Anything higher than -99% will reset to -90%0 -
Jasrina - Heavens Tear wrote: »More tests:
-69% base
-99% with Demon Rapid Growth
-70% base
-90% with Demon Rapid Growth
This confirms that -99% is the cap. Anything higher than -99% will reset to -90%
is -99 instant?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »If you have a friend with a Jungle Ruins belt your true -channeling is viewable in your player stats.
It is mislabeled as "Mag. Save".
OH that's what Magic Saves is 8D
Don't skills start breaking at around -45? Why would you want to go into territory where the skill you click fails to cast >.>[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I have -105% chnl without Demon Spark, and i barely see the chnl bar, if not none at all. And zooming powder, supposedly instant cast, is the most at -90% chnl from what i see. The bar still charges for quite a long while compared to -105% chnl.
For nature's vengeance (1second spell), spell is really instant with no charging bar at -105.
For absorb soul (5second spell), spell has a charging bar of 0.1 second or so.
Using zooming thunder powder, absorb soul has a 0.5-1 second cast time.0 -
Just to make certain it wasn't the Eye of Observation that was bugged, I stared at the channel bar.
base -67 + Demonspark + Rapid Growth (should be -122% channel)
was slower than
base -67 + Rapid Growth (-97% channel)
It was very noticeable.
Tested using the 5.0 second Channel spell: Absorb Soul0 -
The over 90% statistic comes from the Sutra+Town portal combo.
When you cast Sutra + town portal there is still a channelling bar that lasts for about 1 second.(1 sec channel must mean 90% channelling). This is different from cast time, because casting time shows the channelling bar full. Cast time is just the animation, not the channelling.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »The over 90% statistic comes from the Sutra+Town portal combo.
When you cast Sutra + town portal there is still a channelling bar that lasts for about 1 second.(1 sec channel must mean 90% channelling). This is different from cast time, because casting time shows the channelling bar full. Cast time is just the animation, not the channelling.
I believe that's actually due to wizzie's sutra skill being affected by the cap itself. By casting -100% channel it resets it down to -90% channel.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
tjrsherman wrote: »I have -105% chnl without Demon Spark, and i barely see the chnl bar, if not none at all. And zooming powder, supposedly instant cast, is the most at -90% chnl from what i see. The bar still charges for quite a long while compared to -105% chnl. .
pwcalc your gears or im not buying it.
And i think what most people are saying, is that while the game shows you being over 90% chan, it still brings the actual speed of the spell channeling down to 90%. Correct me if im wrong.0 -
If at any point you reach or exceed -100% Channel, the Eye of Observation shows you at -90% Channel.
I have also confirmed the channel bar does fill slower once you go past -99%.0 -
For those that say cast time screws it up, yeah cast time is an issue and will never be like APS (just pointing the QQer, -99% channel would still cast only 1 skill per second, and not 5... so shut up if you don't know what you're complaining about ^ -^)
Anyway, yeah appart of that rant, then my friend was right, after 99% it messes up
and for those that claim it screws up your defense and crit... i have 10% crit XD more than high for a cleric with no real dex added in rofl.
99% is more than doable and is sexy to just pew the skills in 1 sec instead of 2 or 3 :] no? you would simply cast the skills faster, still slower than aps but faster than most casters - will do wonders in pvp - one of the rules on cleric pvp, do not get stunned first b:chuckle - town portal in 1 second instead of 10~
and revive in 1 second on a o-shi moment is also awesome, I simply love it in nirvana ^^ (with my 80% takes like 2 secs to cast or w/e) WTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.0 -
I don't think cast time is an issue...
the fact that you use all your skill and there all in cool down from the to fast casting is the real problem.
Also a question came in my mind the other day, while killing demon lantern in the tomb for my new veno, A lv 101 cleric can 1 shot a mob but the mob still has time to reach and cast a skill.
Now is that faster then 100% channel has the mob predicted your attack and already send a ball of pain your way just before the spell channel finish ...
What about those archer that when they die they can still trow an arrow and not miss.
Or even better, while you grind on mob, you kill a few, pick up the loot and a sin pop out, But to your amazement, your skill get interrupted from the dead mob damage... 10 sec after oO
5 aps, 99% channel OFC ![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Also a question came in my mind the other day, while killing demon lantern in the tomb for my new veno, A lv 101 cleric can 1 shot a mob but the mob still has time to reach and cast a skill.
If he was using great cyclone, that's normal, that skill aggroes the mob before it actually hits it.0 -
BizHerc - Heavens Tear wrote: »pwcalc your gears or im not buying it.
And i think what most people are saying, is that while the game shows you being over 90% chan, it still brings the actual speed of the spell channeling down to 90%. Correct me if im wrong.
RB (-20) + Rapid Growth (-20) + Gb buff lvl 5 aura stone (-10) alone gives -50 stackable chnl0 -
I know someone who has JUST under 100% channeling, with spark, think he is off by 6% or something, so yes it is higher then 74%b:pleased0
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Jasrina - Heavens Tear wrote: »More tests:
-69% base
-99% with Demon Rapid Growth
-70% base
-90% with Demon Rapid Growth
This confirms that -99% is the cap. Anything higher than -99% will reset to -90%
Good work. Who would have thought adding more channeling slows you down heh. This and the existance of 5.0 confirm that the devs are idiots (as if there was still doubt of that lol).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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