Scamming Trash!!

GM's can't make up for player stupidity. Sorry.

Aeyisha - Lost City wrote: »

Rage moar.

Stupid people deserve to get scammed.

Stupid scammers deserve to lose everything.

Juliaasmith - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I can't stand some of these thieves that prey on unsuspecting honest people! I see scumbag low lifes scamming almost every day in the middle of W.Arch, and it really ticks me off!! I think there should be a harsher penalty for people who are caught or reported scamming. For example, my friend saw a guy selling a (2 soc) +5 Goernox for only 750k. He Traded the guy making the mistake of not checking the icon to see if it was the same weap that was origionally linked and ended up with some low level npc material junk! Another friend of mine fell for a scam giving some girl his pants so that she could "dye them white or black." Yes, it was not wise for him to fall for the scam, but it doesn't make it right! He never saw his pants after that! Another classic scammer in W.Arch was the Blue Nix scammer. She used 2 different names one wanting to trade things like stone of the savent for a blue nix and the other name was selling blue nix for like 20 mil. Then there was Crazy Stone scammer - I fell for that one! They over charge on one stone. It's just sad that people pull this b:fatb - GMs please crack down on these thieves. b:angry

Trading

- Set a stall when trading your item to someone for $
- Have them set a stall when trading an item to you for $

Buying from a Stall

- Always take the time to fully check the item and the price within EACH slot before buying.
- Example: One person was selling Teles for 9k but the next slot he was selling them for 90k

It's a Scam If

- You want something for almost free
- They want to borrow your fashion to try it on
- They want to borrow your weapon/avaition to test it out
- You get pmed by a friend, and told to drop your item to a person nearby

Be Careful When

- Asking someone you do not know to craft for you

- Heading to an Instance and a person asks for lead and then kicks/reinvites everyone (odds are they reset the way items are distributed)

- Someone continually asks to borrow charms, $ or item and never gives them back

- Someone confides that they just might quit the game if they do not have A, B or C and QQ's you contineously.

Just.... learn to say NO - learn to look at what people are trading and what you are buying. Watch WHO you trust.

Its YOUR $ - YOUR time and YOUR effort - so safeguard all that you have.... Time is free, just help them out to farm an item if they need it so very badly, but within reason.

Aeyisha - Lost City wrote: »

Stupid people deserve to get scammed.

Fuzzy thanks you for such a stimulating intellectual reply to a thread.


But on topic, the best defence to a scam is common sense. Not much more needs to be said on the issue from the panda's point of view.

Haha when I see that shiit in west arch i think "do people actually fall for that stuff? God they must be dumb as rocks." Someone asked to try my spec haze wings to see how they looked on him. He was thinking of buying them. I said sure gimme 30 mil coins to hold onto while you look at them... no reply.

If you're dumb enough to not check item before trading, double check price before buying from a catshop, give items to people with no collateral or compensation, well then you deserved to get scammed you naive mentally retarrded stupid *** kid.

Juliaasmith - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm not dumb enough to fall for obvious scams, but I have fallen for the Crazy Stone scam before and any smart player can do the same thing.

Sorry, but scam or not, as Fuzzy sees it, smart players running their crazy stone quest don't buy stones from catshops to begin with since it is obvious they are, scam or no, trying to turn a profit. Smart players combine their own stones in that example.

Lesthar - Heavens Tear wrote: »

should get kicked from the game for obvious scams, namely the token one.

Fuzzy has noticed that PWI has changed the Best token to a different color now... perhaps to the observant, this helps avoid the scam?

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

Fuzzy has noticed that PWI has changed the Best token to a different color now... perhaps to the observant, this helps avoid the scam?

Is there a possibility to make them look really different? I mean... A token scam is already easy to spot (I have yet to report some cases). But I fear some desperate souls will still be silly enough to fall into that trap.
Nothing else to add there. Thanks for the reply.

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

Sorry, but scam or not, as Fuzzy sees it, smart players running their crazy stone quest don't buy stones from catshops to begin with since it is obvious they are, scam or no, trying to turn a profit. Smart players combine their own stones in that example.

Thats fair but I sometimes would buy from those shops because I had a few extra coins over what I needed to get crazy stone and those stones where like wickedly faster then combining all those damn stones.

PearlBreeze well I agree honestly but you have never actually met a scammer have you? What you see as a scammer isn't as bad as you would think they aren't morally corrupt people in fact the vast majority set up these scams to actually see if people will fall for them several of them are surprised when people do. Others are looking to make a quick buck off people and exploit ignorance which is morally wrong but few do so more then a couple of times. When you do badly in school you get a bad grade when you act up in class you get detention it works for some they learn not to do that. Others take the lesson as people being harsh to them and its not.

I know many many a scammer across many different games in fact one of them who would do such a thing is a really good friend of mine. He doesn't see it as being mean in fact there are several times he does it as a lesson to people and gives their stuff right back. Any normal person would see right through his purposely loosely coated truths but he still gets people with them not because he wants to but because they just refuse to pay attention to their environment. He is also a very kind person he would give you his last dollar even if it meant he didn't eat that day if you truly needed it.

What you need to understand is some people need to learn a lesson and some people intend to teach it. Others just want to make a quick buck and find it fun to see how many people they can fleece it doesn't mean they are corrupt just dishonest.

Not everyone cares what everyone else thinks you know if they did this world would be a very bad place everyone would be tiptoeing around the morons who feel too much and trying to get the ones who they think don't feel enough to feel more. Its not human nature to feel for every single thing you do no matter who tells you it is. It would be far too much stress to do so.

Scammers are people too though you can only see pain when you get scammed your not looking at the other side that requires empathy too.

Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thats fair but I sometimes would buy from those shops because I had a few extra coins over what I needed to get crazy stone and those stones where like wickedly faster then combining all those damn stones.

PearlBreeze well I agree honestly but you have never actually met a scammer have you? What you see as a scammer isn't as bad as you would think they aren't morally corrupt people in fact the vast majority set up these scams to actually see if people will fall for them several of them are surprised when people do. Others are looking to make a quick buck off people and exploit ignorance which is morally wrong but few do so more then a couple of times. When you do badly in school you get a bad grade when you act up in class you get detention it works for some they learn not to do that. Others take the lesson as people being harsh to them and its not.

I know many many a scammer across many different games in fact one of them who would do such a thing is a really good friend of mine. He doesn't see it as being mean in fact there are several times he does it as a lesson to people and gives their stuff right back. Any normal person would see right through his purposely loosely coated truths but he still gets people with them not because he wants to but because they just refuse to pay attention to their environment. He is also a very kind person he would give you his last dollar even if it meant he didn't eat that day if you truly needed it.

What you need to understand is some people need to learn a lesson and some people intend to teach it. Others just want to make a quick buck and find it fun to see how many people they can fleece it doesn't mean they are corrupt just dishonest.

Not everyone cares what everyone else thinks you know if they did this world would be a very bad place everyone would be tiptoeing around the morons who feel too much and trying to get the ones who they think don't feel enough to feel more. Its not human nature to feel for every single thing you do no matter who tells you it is. It would be far too much stress to do so.

Scammers are people too though you can only see pain when you get scammed your not looking at the other side that requires empathy too.

To answer ure question .Yes i have met scammers i can smell them a mile away .Yes they have tried to scam me a lot cuz my name is pearlbreeze a somewhat sissy girly name .

The have even tried it over the mailbox saying they are GM .They have tried it whit **** accounts.So yes i have met numerous scammers.

ALso in other games i played i have met a lot of nasty people .

They never succeeded with me .But i know all there tricks.

They need to learn what can hapend up front not after the deed is done .U cant go steall from others first then say its alright they need to learn /No its not right unless the scamers learns by giving all the stuff back at the owner.

You should read my reply back about emphaty.

Fuzzy i can understand ure friend but srry he doing it wrong as a lesson .

But mostly im talking about the hit and run scammers that wil do anything for a coin , they bad people that need to learn some emphaty.

Its not so that because they can they should do it and alowed to be like they are the good ones cuz they so totally not !!!

Its not cuz ure hiding behind a screen in a make believe world that people dont get hurt cuz u cant see there faces.

This is what people need to learn up front .U can still hurt people .
On my other game a guys commited suicide becuz he got scammed by what he thought to be the best friend i that game .That guy pretended to be for years then he **** his account and bled him dry.

This guy diddend comitted suicited becuz he lost his stuff ,but becuz he couldend comprehend the betrayel of that person ,cuz that is far far worse.


PS.

So srry for language typo's guys .

ZodiarkE - Dreamweaver wrote: »

you people need to use a different strategy like " GM's need to be on there when they are needed at all times! "

So you expect the GM's to be available 24/7 to protect the players from themselves?

As Fuzzy stated, isn't your common sense supposed to help you along those lines as well, or should every mistake you make, foolish or no, be corrected for you?