What barb you prefer?

Aksar_Rain - Archosaur
Aksar_Rain - Archosaur Posts: 38 Arc User
edited August 2011 in Barbarian
my vote is obvious but i want to see what others think (-hopes standard tank barb doesn't get far-) the choices seen are the only ones i know of for barb i may not know any others.
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I prefer a tank build because I have a 4/5 aps sage sin, 5 aps sage archer, two 5 aps demon BM's, and can easily make my barb another APS build isnce he's on that account but what's the point of making yet another? For others obviously their choices may vary, however, one must always keep a dose of logic and understand to weigh equally both what they want in a build and what people who invite them into a squad expect of them.
  • Aksar_Rain - Archosaur
    Aksar_Rain - Archosaur Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i barley see the point of Claw barb, why waste all of your skills for claws
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  • SharkAngel - Heavens Tear
    SharkAngel - Heavens Tear Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ^One can still swap out their claws for axes if needed, so one can keep their 1v1 DPS or have their regular skills/tiger skills available at any given time.

    That said, I prefer the tank build because I'm just old-fashioned I guess. If only Ream could have held aggro against highly refined magic/ranged weapons (obviously impossible vs 5APS+heavy refines)...
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  • GohRaL - Sanctuary
    GohRaL - Sanctuary Posts: 883 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Up until a few months i would have screamed TANK BARB...


    Now that boredom and uselessness came knocking at my door, i decided to switch to claws.


    Is not like im useless, but beside help friends/guildies with full delta or spawn like 100+, i feel kinda bored
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  • ItsAWolf - Archosaur
    ItsAWolf - Archosaur Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    My vote went to claw barb; you have all the regular skills for mobs and quests, and you have claws to make bhs last a fraction of the time. Removing the need for a cleric to heal you also helps a ton of course b:dirty

    Besides, one advantage claw barbs have over claw bms is that barbs never miss on bosses
  • Crescendio - Harshlands
    Crescendio - Harshlands Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    If you have the HP to support it, fist barb would be a good way to go. The increased crit helps in PvP and your DPS in PvE is way better than a regular tank barb, enabling you to be able to hold aggro most of the time. Other than that, the increased DPS helps in events like Tiger Event / CoA and in instances like nirvana. You should be able to tank anything just fine with 30k+ hp. There's no need for 40k+ really, unless you just play for TW.
  • Daedallus - Sanctuary
    Daedallus - Sanctuary Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    TANK BAAAAAARB b:victory
  • Teddy_Tiger - Archosaur
    Teddy_Tiger - Archosaur Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    +1 on claw barb, couldn't say better than crescendio
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  • IBaMBii - Heavens Tear
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    claw barb... because im APS so i can farm AND tank ... what more do you want.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    There is no different between a tank barb and a claw barb. You meant to say pure vit barb vs claw barb. I have 3 base vit and still have 26k hp in tiger. If you saw me with my r9 axes in tiger with that amount of hp you wouldn't have a clue I could use claws until I switched gear and put the claws on (which has happened a few times). Switching to claws is all about how well you can shard/refine gear.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I only see two options to vote for, because isn't the claw barb the DD barb and the tank barb? Claw barbs tank better than vit builds, and may not do as much in a single axe hit as a pure str build but do multiple times more the damage per second.

    I mean, the difference between 24k claw barb and 26k vit barb doesn't mean a 24k barb can no longer tank...

    and the difference between a 15k dph claw barb using axes with a 30% crit rate and a 17k dph strength barb with a 12% crit doesn't make the claw barb "not a dd build".



    So ya, obvious choice. Claw barb.

    Btw, totally impartial pole with the ??? next to claw and robe barbs and the smiley face next to strength.
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  • Lythianaa - Dreamweaver
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,307 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I voted for robe barb for fun.

    But seriously, a barb that knows how to play their class. I don't care about their build, but as long as they play their class and tank fine keeping aggro, i'm fine with them.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Fun thing is I can (and have) pulled cata a few times with my build last just as long as any of the pure vit barbs. Do they have 30-40k to my 26k sure, but it's more about skills in handling genie/apoth/regular skills to survive not just an HP / Def number.
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  • Aksar_Rain - Archosaur
    Aksar_Rain - Archosaur Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    but arnt you sacrificing to much skills for claws even buffs that demand axes and hammers only
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ^ No, you aren't sacrificing skills. Skills cost coin/spirit. Claws cost vit/str to put more into dex. So you're sacrificing HP to do a **** load more damage than normally, and rest assured an APS build barb will far outdamage your axe/hammer barb concerning PVE at least. I'm pretty sure a decent APS barb also has two sets of gear, one -int set, and another +vit/hp/def set (including one pair of fist/claw for APS dmg and a pair of axes for human/tiger form skills) depending on the personal circumstances or cost-effectiveness.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Aksar_Rain - Archosaur wrote: »
    but arnt you sacrificing to much skills for claws even buffs that demand axes and hammers only

    Not at all, hotkey the axes and hit it. Takes about .2 seconds to switch and I'm back to being another axe barb just with a ton of accuracy and crit.

    I typically run up in tiger, beastial, devour, human form then claw them to death. Then back to tiger (for the run speed). If I'm ever in trouble hp wise I sunder, invoke, human again and attack with claws. Because I just Sundered I have full hp, I just invoked so I have 90% damage reduction, and I'll have full sparks in a couple seconds. Between the barbs naturally high HP, sparks 3 second immunity, and Sunder and invokes 30 second cooldown nothing can kill me.

    Not to mention, if I'm bloodpainted... I get about 1.5 times more heals from bloodpaint during a 15 second triple spark (then 20% hp from the triple spark) than I do from a cleric spam healing IH on me. Only thing I really miss is interupting boss attacks, which I can use my genie for. I use Penetrate Armor after my spark and hide the weapon switch in the spark animation so I lose about .8 second of attacking per 18 second.
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  • fuzzywuzz
    fuzzywuzz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    The panda refuses to chime in on this because.... well.. you all know where Fuzzy stands. b:scorn
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    FuzzyWuzz wrote: »
    The panda refuses to chime in on this because.... well.. you all know where Fuzzy stands. b:scorn

    Fuzzy used his super GM powers to vote "Tank Barb" 12 times. b:thanks
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  • OOCreatureOo - Dreamweaver
    OOCreatureOo - Dreamweaver Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I prefer a tank build because I have a 4/5 aps sage sin, 5 aps sage archer, two 5 aps demon BM's, and can easily make my barb another APS build isnce he's on that account but what's the point of making yet another? For others obviously their choices may vary, however, one must always keep a dose of logic and understand to weigh equally both what they want in a build and what people who invite them into a squad expect of them.

    I agree with you there. Theres already enough class's that are ment to be APS. I'll stay true to the original barb's way. Tanker/HP build barbarian. I get people ask me if i'm going to go APS, and I always say no. And when they ask why, I simply tell them that I made my barb for as much hp, and defence as I could get. If I want an APS character, I'll roll a Assassin, Fists BM, Or an archer.
  • Doom_Panda - Harshlands
    Doom_Panda - Harshlands Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Vit barb ftw.
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  • Cybetron - Raging Tide
    Cybetron - Raging Tide Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hmm "prefer" is a vague term here. Prefer for what would be my next question :) if it is to play then i'ld prefer a vit barb, simply because I like vit b:chuckle

    As other fellow tigers/pandas/wolves/lions have rightly pointed out a "tank" barb can comprise vit AND claw barbs. It also comprises 5 aps BMs, sins and HA fist wizzies b:surrender

    According to me, each instance would have its own preference. In Nirvana, a claw barb would get things done faster. If its delta or tt3-3 or TWs then i'ld prefer VIT barbs hands down.

    Oh btw, by VIT barbs I mean a barb spending the exact same amount of refines and armor that the claw barb spends but the stats go into VIT instead of DEX.
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    tank build tho i can accept str build as barb dex is reall ya NO.

    reason is simple just cos the game allow u to glitch the mechanic in a certain way dosent make it right. game was designed to we of skill spamming this way gm could sell mp charm and sht not auto attacking wish by the way they really should lower damage from sparking i bet it would kill aps in one go if spark didnt boost damage so much.

    5aps isnt *** but dombined with 3rd spark omg number get so high.

    prefer vit build but str barb are cool as they spamm skill and that for me is how u play a barb.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    No bow dex barbarian ? b:shocked
    It was popular before AssAssIn invasion.
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