What barb you prefer?

Aksar_Rain - Archosaur

my vote is obvious but i want to see what others think (-hopes standard tank barb doesn't get far-) the choices seen are the only ones i know of for barb i may not know any others.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

I prefer a tank build because I have a 4/5 aps sage sin, 5 aps sage archer, two 5 aps demon BM's, and can easily make my barb another APS build isnce he's on that account but what's the point of making yet another? For others obviously their choices may vary, however, one must always keep a dose of logic and understand to weigh equally both what they want in a build and what people who invite them into a squad expect of them.

Aksar_Rain - Archosaur

i barley see the point of Claw barb, why waste all of your skills for claws

SharkAngel - Heavens Tear

^One can still swap out their claws for axes if needed, so one can keep their 1v1 DPS or have their regular skills/tiger skills available at any given time.

That said, I prefer the tank build because I'm just old-fashioned I guess. If only Ream could have held aggro against highly refined magic/ranged weapons (obviously impossible vs 5APS+heavy refines)...

GohRaL - Sanctuary

Up until a few months i would have screamed TANK BARB...


Now that boredom and uselessness came knocking at my door, i decided to switch to claws.


Is not like im useless, but beside help friends/guildies with full delta or spawn like 100+, i feel kinda bored

ItsAWolf - Archosaur

My vote went to claw barb; you have all the regular skills for mobs and quests, and you have claws to make bhs last a fraction of the time. Removing the need for a cleric to heal you also helps a ton of course b:dirty

Besides, one advantage claw barbs have over claw bms is that barbs never miss on bosses

Crescendio - Harshlands

If you have the HP to support it, fist barb would be a good way to go. The increased crit helps in PvP and your DPS in PvE is way better than a regular tank barb, enabling you to be able to hold aggro most of the time. Other than that, the increased DPS helps in events like Tiger Event / CoA and in instances like nirvana. You should be able to tank anything just fine with 30k+ hp. There's no need for 40k+ really, unless you just play for TW.

Daedallus - Sanctuary

TANK BAAAAAARB b:victory

Teddy_Tiger - Archosaur

+1 on claw barb, couldn't say better than crescendio

IBaMBii - Heavens Tear

claw barb... because im APS so i can farm AND tank ... what more do you want.

Traz - Dreamweaver

There is no different between a tank barb and a claw barb. You meant to say pure vit barb vs claw barb. I have 3 base vit and still have 26k hp in tiger. If you saw me with my r9 axes in tiger with that amount of hp you wouldn't have a clue I could use claws until I switched gear and put the claws on (which has happened a few times). Switching to claws is all about how well you can shard/refine gear.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

I only see two options to vote for, because isn't the claw barb the DD barb and the tank barb? Claw barbs tank better than vit builds, and may not do as much in a single axe hit as a pure str build but do multiple times more the damage per second.

I mean, the difference between 24k claw barb and 26k vit barb doesn't mean a 24k barb can no longer tank...

and the difference between a 15k dph claw barb using axes with a 30% crit rate and a 17k dph strength barb with a 12% crit doesn't make the claw barb "not a dd build".



So ya, obvious choice. Claw barb.

Btw, totally impartial pole with the ??? next to claw and robe barbs and the smiley face next to strength.

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver

I voted for robe barb for fun.

But seriously, a barb that knows how to play their class. I don't care about their build, but as long as they play their class and tank fine keeping aggro, i'm fine with them.

Traz - Dreamweaver

Fun thing is I can (and have) pulled cata a few times with my build last just as long as any of the pure vit barbs. Do they have 30-40k to my 26k sure, but it's more about skills in handling genie/apoth/regular skills to survive not just an HP / Def number.

Aksar_Rain - Archosaur

but arnt you sacrificing to much skills for claws even buffs that demand axes and hammers only

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

^ No, you aren't sacrificing skills. Skills cost coin/spirit. Claws cost vit/str to put more into dex. So you're sacrificing HP to do a **** load more damage than normally, and rest assured an APS build barb will far outdamage your axe/hammer barb concerning PVE at least. I'm pretty sure a decent APS barb also has two sets of gear, one -int set, and another +vit/hp/def set (including one pair of fist/claw for APS dmg and a pair of axes for human/tiger form skills) depending on the personal circumstances or cost-effectiveness.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Aksar_Rain - Archosaur wrote: »

but arnt you sacrificing to much skills for claws even buffs that demand axes and hammers only

Not at all, hotkey the axes and hit it. Takes about .2 seconds to switch and I'm back to being another axe barb just with a ton of accuracy and crit.

I typically run up in tiger, beastial, devour, human form then claw them to death. Then back to tiger (for the run speed). If I'm ever in trouble hp wise I sunder, invoke, human again and attack with claws. Because I just Sundered I have full hp, I just invoked so I have 90% damage reduction, and I'll have full sparks in a couple seconds. Between the barbs naturally high HP, sparks 3 second immunity, and Sunder and invokes 30 second cooldown nothing can kill me.

Not to mention, if I'm bloodpainted... I get about 1.5 times more heals from bloodpaint during a 15 second triple spark (then 20% hp from the triple spark) than I do from a cleric spam healing IH on me. Only thing I really miss is interupting boss attacks, which I can use my genie for. I use Penetrate Armor after my spark and hide the weapon switch in the spark animation so I lose about .8 second of attacking per 18 second.

fuzzywuzz

The panda refuses to chime in on this because.... well.. you all know where Fuzzy stands. b:scorn

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

The panda refuses to chime in on this because.... well.. you all know where Fuzzy stands. b:scorn

Fuzzy used his super GM powers to vote "Tank Barb" 12 times. b:thanks

OOCreatureOo - Dreamweaver

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I prefer a tank build because I have a 4/5 aps sage sin, 5 aps sage archer, two 5 aps demon BM's, and can easily make my barb another APS build isnce he's on that account but what's the point of making yet another? For others obviously their choices may vary, however, one must always keep a dose of logic and understand to weigh equally both what they want in a build and what people who invite them into a squad expect of them.

I agree with you there. Theres already enough class's that are ment to be APS. I'll stay true to the original barb's way. Tanker/HP build barbarian. I get people ask me if i'm going to go APS, and I always say no. And when they ask why, I simply tell them that I made my barb for as much hp, and defence as I could get. If I want an APS character, I'll roll a Assassin, Fists BM, Or an archer.

Doom_Panda - Harshlands

Vit barb ftw.

Cybetron - Raging Tide

Hmm "prefer" is a vague term here. Prefer for what would be my next question if it is to play then i'ld prefer a vit barb, simply because I like vit b:chuckle

As other fellow tigers/pandas/wolves/lions have rightly pointed out a "tank" barb can comprise vit AND claw barbs. It also comprises 5 aps BMs, sins and HA fist wizzies b:surrender

According to me, each instance would have its own preference. In Nirvana, a claw barb would get things done faster. If its delta or tt3-3 or TWs then i'ld prefer VIT barbs hands down.

Oh btw, by VIT barbs I mean a barb spending the exact same amount of refines and armor that the claw barb spends but the stats go into VIT instead of DEX.

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

tank build tho i can accept str build as barb dex is reall ya NO.

reason is simple just cos the game allow u to glitch the mechanic in a certain way dosent make it right. game was designed to we of skill spamming this way gm could sell mp charm and sht not auto attacking wish by the way they really should lower damage from sparking i bet it would kill aps in one go if spark didnt boost damage so much.

5aps isnt *** but dombined with 3rd spark omg number get so high.

prefer vit build but str barb are cool as they spamm skill and that for me is how u play a barb.

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

No bow dex barbarian ? b:shocked
It was popular before AssAssIn invasion.