Your 50k+ soulforce build

Soulseek - Lost City
Soulseek - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
edited July 2011 in Psychic
Here is an awesome build.

http://pwcalc.com/d1891ec2cfec76a5

Share your build too and feel free to critic.
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  • SoniMax - Sanctuary
    SoniMax - Sanctuary Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    that's a mirage :D
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  • LunarCainEX - Dreamweaver
    LunarCainEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Cloud Stir? wtf? where can you get that kind of ring -.-
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  • SoniMax - Sanctuary
    SoniMax - Sanctuary Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    LunarCainEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Cloud Stir? wtf? where can you get that kind of ring -.-
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/26389
    the crystals are from packs
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/31077
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  • Vancore - Sanctuary
    Vancore - Sanctuary Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    SoniMax - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/26389
    the crystals are from packs
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/31077

    not just packs you can farm them from PQ3 its not easy but it can be done
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  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/400f459386d31bd3
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  • Pyroatheist - Lost City
    Pyroatheist - Lost City Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Congrats...you took a bunch of endgame gear and made it all +12 in pwcalc...do you want a cookie?
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  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    A cookie would be nice...
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  • SoniMax - Sanctuary
    SoniMax - Sanctuary Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Vancore - Sanctuary wrote: »
    not just packs you can farm them from PQ3 its not easy but it can be done
    Yea i just saw it yesterday :D but nobody does public quests QQ i used to do the 60-80 one but there's noone 95+ on Sanc who does it at the time it starts. LOL
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  • Azzazin - Dreamweaver
    Azzazin - Dreamweaver Posts: 502 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Get the physical defense version of the rings instead, nubcake.
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  • Lenestro - Sanctuary
    Lenestro - Sanctuary Posts: 490 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    if we're gonna go all cookie cutter might as well throw in icebournes, r9 ring, nirvana cape/helmet, and all jades.... no cit gems
  • Sharuum - Lost City
    Sharuum - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Its all wrong anyway since the insignia that he used has extra soulforce thats not accounted for. And R9 + no ☆☆Ring of Trauma is epic fail even if you are going for "max soulforce ftw". 10x matk, 5 def lvl vs ~2500 soulforce and 250 pdef is just funny.

    Oh, and not to mention that soulforce depends only on your level + refines, so using r9 gives you no more soulforce than anything else lol.
  • Father_gold - Sanctuary
    Father_gold - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    lets not forget that he bungled by using a lunar -chan robe. you have rank 9 and all types of stones and refines, but no cloudcharger? or vana cape....? or even ABBA CAPE...???? heck, even the warsoul helm could be changed out for vana helm if your gonna bother with rank 9.....
  • Sharuum - Lost City
    Sharuum - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Father_gold - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lets not forget that he bungled by using a lunar -chan robe. you have rank 9 and all types of stones and refines, but no cloudcharger? or vana cape....? or even ABBA CAPE...???? heck, even the warsoul helm could be changed out for vana helm if your gonna bother with rank 9.....

    Bah, which is actually better? Warsoul or NV. I would probably take Cloudcharger over NV robe, so I won't be getting the +5 ATK level bonus there. The extra magic is nice, -channel makes no real difference. The question is whether 3% pdam reduction is better than the 200 pdef.

    I used to think that Warsoul is the better choice, but actually as I am writing this, I am starting to shift back to NV gear.
  • Sharuum - Lost City
    Sharuum - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Here are some numbers for the following builds (I think these are pretty much perfect):

    1: ☆Warsoul of Heaven + ☆Wings of Cloudcharger
    2: ☆☆Dragon Rise Hat + ☆☆Dragon Rise
    3: ☆☆Dragon Rise Hat + ☆Wings of Cloudcharger
    4: ☆Warsoul of Heaven + ☆☆Dragon Rise


    The following table displays changes in attack due to attack level (assumed to be higher than opponents so it is linear), crit %, and magic. Defense changes are due to increased physical defense, physical reduction %, and overall hp.

    Attack Table: Base Damage before PVP reduction, atk level reduction, and resistance % reduction

    Case 1: Base Damage: 51,453.73 (100.0%)
    Case 2: Base Damage: 54,703.99 (106.3%)
    Case 3: Base Damage: 52,231.32 (101.5%)
    Case 4: Base Damage: 52.727.22 (102.5%)


    Defense Table: Effective Physical HP before defense level scaling

    Case 1: Physical HP: 28,709.53 (100.0%)
    Case 2: Physical HP: 26,831.91 ( 93.5%)
    Case 3: Physical HP: 28,348.22 ( 98.7%)
    Case 4: Physical HP: 27,169.24 ( 94.6%)

    Based purely on percentage, the Dragon Rise Hat plus Wings of Cloudcharger seem to give the most bang for your buck. You lose some of the attack level damage, but you maintain a pretty stable effective physical hp. You also get some other goodies like +0.20 m/s speed boost. If you value attack more than defense, double NV is definately the way to go as you can get about 6.3% more attack than the first case. The reverse is true for defense. What do you guys think?
  • _Petal_ - Harshlands
    _Petal_ - Harshlands Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Harshlands, ftw!

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    This is a real Psychic, with real full +12 gear. I'm embarrassed to mention his soulforce. I have suicided on Dian so many times it's not even funny anymore. Shame the person playing it now is a moron with no skill. R.I.P UrDian's reputation.
    They made fun of me because I wasn't a R8 Psychic...and then came third cast. It's not funny anymore.

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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    are you implying he gave his account away.
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  • Notso - Raging Tide
    Notso - Raging Tide Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    This is my 50k+ SF build...

    On a note no more serious, if you really wanted you could get -64% chanelling and 50k+ SF and 16k HP unbuffed.

    Another unfortunate thread of PWCalc dreaming...
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Notso - Raging Tide wrote: »
    On a note no more serious, if you really wanted you could get -64% chanelling and 50k+ SF and 16k HP unbuffed.

    Except those stones don't exist here right now... b:surrender
  • Notso - Raging Tide
    Notso - Raging Tide Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hehehe very true, but like I said before...

    Unfortunately I do not know how to link images...
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  • Pyroatheist - Lost City
    Pyroatheist - Lost City Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Notso - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Hehehe very true, but like I said before...

    Unfortunately I do not know how to link images...

    Idk, I could be wrong, but I'd put down a lot of money betting that you've got the colors/labels reversed in that image.
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  • Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    My actual build

    http://pwcalc.com/bbaf5567b2aa620e

    Yeah, +12 stage 1 cube neck FTW... why waste 900m + another 600m for refines on a stage 3 neck when u dont get so much from it? :3
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  • negativereaction
    negativereaction Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/e98a855f16241cf2

    mine has more. i also think i should get a soulforce bonus for 4 pieces of 3-star meditator's set, but that's just me.
  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My actual build

    http://pwcalc.com/bbaf5567b2aa620e

    Yeah, +12 stage 1 cube neck FTW... why waste 900m + another 600m for refines on a stage 3 neck when u dont get so much from it? :3

    From your experience, would you recommend atk lvl shards in the armor of an end game build? :o
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  • negativereaction
    negativereaction Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »
    From your experience, would you recommend atk lvl shards in the armor of an end game build? :o

    i know it wasn't directed to me, but absolutely not. especially with bless boxes and using black voodoo anytime you're trying to deal serious damage, not to mention the need for pdef/hp/def shards, i can't think of a worse class other than EP to put atk shards.

    even with the cushion of full +12 r9, it's a colossal waste of survivability without much gain. that is probably the squishiest +12 r9 pwcalc i've seen in ages, and i'd be embarrassed to bring that to a tw.
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    negative: aparently you've never seen Gorg in TW before then.....


    She/he (idr which) basically one-shots everything and anything that moves within her range, and that isn't even with AoE's she used Aqua Blast on me and I died via a 15k crit during one TW against her :(
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  • negativereaction
    negativereaction Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    _Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »
    negative: aparently you've never seen Gorg in TW before then.....


    She/he (idr which) basically one-shots everything and anything that moves within her range, and that isn't even with AoE's she used Aqua Blast on me and I died via a 15k crit during one TW against her :(

    i'm sure s/he does. anything with well refined full r9, even without the atk level gems, will approach 100 attack levels with a jones blessing. wizzes, psychics, whatever. add on black voodoo and up to 24 DoT and yeah, you'll gain a bit more damage, subject to diminishing returns as any damage multiplier is. that's the upside of assuming they live long enough to attack... lol.

    but 13k hp / mid-50s in base pdef is nothing to an r9 EA in TW, and those EAs also happen to outrange psys. you'll deal nearly the same damage and not have to respawn, rebuild chi, and complain to your factionmates about how the same damn EA keeps 2-hitting you... if you slot jades and gems -- like the majority of magic classes do, with good reason -- instead of DoT.
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    negativereaction wrote: »
    i'm sure s/he does. anything with well refined full r9, even without the atk level gems, will approach 100 attack levels with a jones blessing. wizzes, psychics, whatever. add on black voodoo and up to 24 DoT and yeah, you'll gain a bit more damage, subject to diminishing returns as any damage multiplier is. that's the upside of assuming they live long enough to attack... lol.

    but 13k hp / mid-50s in base pdef is nothing to an r9 EA in TW, and those EAs also happen to outrange psys. you'll deal nearly the same damage and not have to respawn, rebuild chi, and complain to your factionmates about how the same damn EA keeps 2-hitting you... if you slot jades and gems -- like the majority of magic classes do, with good reason -- instead of DoT.

    Again, they don't really have to rebuild chi unless they want to use instant cast skills via 2 spark skill. (red tide I think it is)


    Other than that they can run back out with their SoV, Soul of Stunning/Sealing, and their other one (SoR I think is the short term, my psychic doesn't have all his skills just yet). Then they are going right back on the offensive.

    True gorg could of done JoSD and be like every other r9 +12 psychic, but at least s/he decided to be different and go with DoT.
    As for two-shotting....lol. Highly unlikely, considering that even with meak physical defense, the first attack a cleric would do would cause one of the SoS to trigger (Stunning most likely) which means that they would have to wait for the more than likely 6-10 seconds for the stun to be over so they could attack again. Which by that time, a good psychic would of already eleminated the cleric and any surrounding threats.
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  • negativereaction
    negativereaction Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    _Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »
    Again, they don't really have to rebuild chi unless they want to use instant cast skills via 2 spark skill. (red tide I think it is)


    Other than that they can run back out with their SoV, Soul of Stunning/Sealing, and their other one (SoR I think is the short term, my psychic doesn't have all his skills just yet). Then they are going right back on the offensive.

    True gorg could of done JoSD and be like every other r9 +12 psychic, but at least s/he decided to be different and go with DoT.
    As for two-shotting....lol. Highly unlikely, considering that even with meak physical defense, the first attack a cleric would do would cause one of the SoS to trigger (Stunning most likely) which means that they would have to wait for the more than likely 6-10 seconds for the stun to be over so they could attack again. Which by that time, a good psychic would of already eleminated the cleric and any surrounding threats.

    you are sorely mistaken if you psys "don't really have to rebuild chi" in TW. several of their most useful TW skills cost 1 or 2 sparks. dying frequently and having to rebuild that, or at the very least spam apothecary pots on it, is nontrivial.

    as for two-shotting, i was talking about EAs, not clerics - not that it makes too much difference. an r9 EA is certainly capable of 2-hitting the DoT build that was posted, and just as capable of getting movement immunity for the first SoS hit. 13k hp is about as low hp as you can get with full r9 +12, and not much additional attack power is gained from adding 24 DoT to an already high attack level from r9/black voodoo/bless box.

    i am sure that build can deal a lot of damage. the problem is, so can any r9 +12 build, even without the DoT, but at least they can take a hit or two with jades and gems. there is a reason "every other r9 +12 psychic" does that. being "different" gets points for creativity but it doesn't make it better than what's been proven most efficient in TW.
  • DUTY_TO_ALL - Heavens Tear
    DUTY_TO_ALL - Heavens Tear Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I did a 50k+ build http://pwcalc.com/841df306d899d48b
  • negativereaction
    negativereaction Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    DUTY_TO_ALL - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I did a 50k+ build http://pwcalc.com/841df306d899d48b

    ..you guys know soulforce is ONLY a function of level and gear refines, right? see my pwcalc, 105 psy with all +12 grade 1 gear has max soulforce, it's really not a hard concept D:

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