What is the highest damage dealer class?

It's a toss up really between wizards and psychics.

i doubt that a psy can 1 hit barb but for sure a wizy can b:laugh

Cleric. b:chuckle

None of this matters really between Psy and Wiz cause he is asking PvE. Having played both to end game, well r8 since i guess thats noob gear now days, i think Psy is better then a wiz when it comes to that. Mobs drop quicker, and easier. Things die with less work and faster. You don't need a million people number crunching game mechanics to see anything here. I get 3 shots off before my wiz does. Both kill in 3 hits i dont care if the wiz total damage is 27k in those 3 hits and the Psy is 26.2k, the mobs have 20k hp and still die on the third hit, which Psy shot faster

Survivability i'd say about equal, both have nice control skills which you don't need in pve nowdays, FoW is great but not better the Psy will and we also have White voodoo and holy pathed genie to fall back on in a jam, keeps you alive like DS can. Both have a nice knockback. Both are squishy but you shouldnt be getting hit much on either so it doesn't really matter.

Aoe - I rather have my 6 which are practically insta cast then the Wiz array though i do miss it in many situations. You don't use the 59 skills in normal mob situations. If you are a wiz using a the 59 skills when grinding you are failing at grinding mobs so who cares about them. Psy will drop them all before you even cast.

In most instances when you are not tanking anything which is 99.9% of the time, Psy is using 2 maybe 3 diff skills, Wiz is using the same 3 skills and in the end the damage output is probably just about the same on elites and bosses. If other people are in a jam, Earth Vector saves people way easier then a Wiz can

If jones blessing didn't exist, this would be a lot more detailed but probably the same result as when killing there would be more use of control skills, however since everything drops in a few hits, it doesn't matter.

Biased? I said it doesn't matter. Fact, almost all non elite mobs now take both Wiz and Psy 2-3 hits with jones. So it doesn't matter

Eilite mobs you have equal control skills to kill the same mob, but Psy will kill it quicker due to casting time and cooldowns of their skills. Maybe .2 seconds, maybe 1.5, but it will be faster

Instance bosses, over the time you are DD'ing, You can not notice the difference in time the boss dies if 2 squads were equal but one had a Psy and one had a Wiz.

The point is since he was saying for PvE, and not PvP where every bit of damage dealing and casting makes a huge difference, and where you are using your whole array of skills, It does not matter which you choose, choose the one you like. Find me a wiz that consistantly uses his doom skills when grinding or instances. Sure you launch them for fun and graphics, but for best use of mana/time you would never. So why compare them when they are basically PvP skills.

In situations when both are consistantly Aoe'ing, Wiz is in array, so that is what should be compared to Psy AoE and those situations both classes do just fine. Other then that i is Aqua and Spirit repeats vs Gush, Pyro and Stone and once again doesn't matter

You should compare instead


Not cs'ed wiz VS not cs'ed psy.

And big cs'er wiz VS big cs'er psy.

A person putting 2k $ or more in a psy will have amazing soulforce and I think would win the DPH battle.

Cavorex - Raging Tide wrote: »

personally and mind you this is my opinion, a wiz hits harder than 90% of the "Base non CS'd Psychics out there, and in the same breath a full +12 R9 cs'd psy will obliterate just about any wizard in less hits. now as for the screenie of the 3.75 mil crit. that is photoshopped. I've been in squads with full R9 wizards that have critted with every amplifying damage gain out there and the max they've reached EVER was 825K, which is still more than any psychic crit i've ever seen.

the final break down, Wizards can be op and the best end game magic using class when they are built correctly, psychics are more the lazy mans cannon huge damage at a fast rate.

but in the end look at several things.
it's not really the ammount of power you have in 1 shot it's who can kill the other faster, and i am sorry but a psy will always hit faster than a wizard.

but the question was comparing wiz vs psy in DPH, not DPS b:surrender

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