[Server Maintenance Tonight] 7-5-2011 [COMPLETED]

Make a PvP one and then we talk if ppl go there.

and... English. Or well.. preferably why not Spanish???

Arellys - Harshlands wrote: »

Make a PvP one and then we talk if ppl go there.

and... English. Or well.. preferably why not Spanish???

oh I agree on this one lol I see many spanish speakers have a really hard time in gaming, although the game would be still in english for em so there's no point xD LEARN ENGLISH :] - coming from a Mexican ;P

DolIy - Sanctuary wrote: »

question
do both new servers share the same name storage database ?

ty that is all b:bye

They share databases with each other, yes.

frankieraye wrote: »

Hey all,


We will be having Server maintenance tonight from 11pm PDT until 1am PDT!


And for this week's maintenance question..


If you could have any PWI flying mount in real life, which would it be? How would you use it, and would you give it a name?

pls i have question - i have many charakters on heavenst tear (Server) .....is posible transportation this charakters on the German Server - pwe momaganon ? pls im from Europe and this option would please me.

Arellys - Harshlands wrote: »

Make a PvP one and then we talk if ppl go there.

and... English. Or well.. preferably why not Spanish???

Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »

oh I agree on this one lol I see many spanish speakers have a really hard time in gaming, although the game would be still in english for em so there's no point xD LEARN ENGLISH :] - coming from a Mexican ;P

Another company has exclusive rights to presenting the game in Spanish, which is the key reason (I'm sure) that a Spanish server/client wasn't released by PWE.

KuiXing - Harshlands wrote: »

Why is the chat filter still not fixed? I cant PM some friends still, just change it back to the old filter ._.

You could PM Frankie with the names letting him know what still needs to be fixed (even though i thought it was fixed already >< ).

Transfering chars is a win win easy profit for PWE, I can't believe they haven't used it, it is after all another way for them to get money. It will make almost everybody happy, and many mmos have it. I don't see why this can't have it, you guys seem to avoid implementing all that would make this community happy. And I believe there isn't an engine limitation to do so, the only problem would be that, the name thing, which could be solved by: 1. changing the chars name when transfering if needed (c'mon, easy peezy), 2. instead of making it that one server can't have 2 chars with the same name, make it server-wide, so there can't be 2 chars with the same name in any of the servers. #2 would be useless, we already have tons of ppl playing. #1 is viable.b:bye

@DolIy maybe an extra fee if that happens?

frankieraye wrote: »

If we could do it, I believe we would. Server transfers are a common thing for many mmos, and one that even p2p games profit from.

You can apply that to like um...if the devs could fix the bugs, I believe they would. Well not really. I can't think of an engine limitation for this game that would prevent char transfer, was PWI built on some kind of alien coding?

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

Copy item ID.

Paste item ID

???

PROFIT?!

Yeah... it's actually not that easy.

For example, it appears that items themselves have IDs that point to other server-specific things, such as who created it, that wouldn't exist on the other server. Characters too have all sorts of interrelated tags, such as the "Friends List", so moving a character also means either checking everyone on the server to remove links to the moved character (a HUGE waste of CPU time) so you can clear out the moved data or pointing to a "nonexistent" character, which means that nobody can use the moved character's name on its original server (e.g. requires wasting database space and blocking an unused name, effectively the same as giving you another character that you'll never use). And there appear to be are all sorts of logs too that are used to detect cheating and deal with thefts that could get really screwed up by this kind of thing. Imagine someone stealing people's stuff somehow, and then transferring servers to effectively wipe their logs clean.

In short, the data is a mass of interrelated pointers, and successfully untangling it so that a proper move could be done would require too much programming effort and CPU time that it's not actually worth it. PW's DB structure simply wasn't made with character transfer in mind.

The copying from A to B probably wouldn't be too difficult if you stripped out the tags or replaced them with some "default" (though there might be some odd side effects to that), but the removing/hiding of the old data on the original server would be either be ugly and slow or just wasteful; and in both cases, it could potentially be used for abuse.