Best r9 class for TW?

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  • Ruvil - Sanctuary
    Ruvil - Sanctuary Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    so uh... since when did nirvana swords have zerk?

    if you actually read, the seeker combo involves fortify then QPQ to transfer forts debuff to opponent...

    any class CAN DD obviously some are better then others. imo seekers blow, but if you want to make arguements about why seekers blow please do so intelligently. instead of claiming SS is made by a nirvana zerk sword lol...

    edit: w/ r9 seekers may actually be OK-good (TW), but uh r9 anything should be atleast OK, just my 2 cents.
  • brent40
    brent40 Posts: 49
    edited June 2011
    ^^ r8 seekers can 2-3 shot none crit, r8 archers, but yea they blow.
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Ruvil - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so uh... since when did nirvana swords have zerk?

    if you actually read, the seeker combo involves fortify then QPQ to transfer forts debuff to opponent...

    any class CAN DD obviously some are better then others. imo seekers blow, but if you want to make arguements about why seekers blow please do so intelligently. instead of claiming SS is made by a nirvana zerk sword lol...

    edit: w/ r9 seekers may actually be OK-good (TW), but uh r9 anything should be atleast OK, just my 2 cents.

    That makes more sense then. I don't have time to really read every single word in a thread with 10 pages of posts.

    ((22000 + (1.8 * 1600) + 3900) * 1.56)/4 = 11200 raw damage...so wouldn't even need a +10 sword to get 16k crits.
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  • So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »
    That makes more sense then. I don't have time to really read every single word in a thread with 10 pages of posts.

    ((22000 + (1.8 * 1600) + 3900) * 1.56)/4 = 11200 raw damage...so wouldn't even need a +10 sword to get 16k crits.

    Here's the thing...
    Among the SS tht i posted, 2 of those bms have the best gear on the server below rank 9...n one of em got hit for 14k n the other got hit for 19k with battousai....BATTOUSAI(the weakest magic skill lol)

    wat i m saying is if u know how to play a seeker, u can b pretty pro and rock at it..
    if u just swing sword n use skills randomly, well then u suck lol
    doesn't matter if a bm has mag marrow on, with fortify + quid pro quo, it decreases their mag resis exponentially...thts if they know wat the seeker's bt to do..a good bm nvr marrows against a seeker since they know we have both mag n phy attacks....just saying here xD
  • So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    There's my gear when they release rank 9 for earthguards..

    http://pwcalc.com/aa8475c992c2a2b3
  • Nniotora - Lost City
    Nniotora - Lost City Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    There's my gear when they release rank 9 for earthguards..

    http://pwcalc.com/aa8475c992c2a2b3

    My gear when rank9 is released and 100% F2P
    http://pwcalc.com/f404b78db5509479
    100% F2P legit 105 since starting this game. Full rank9 jaded +12 seeker. .tinyurl.com/nocashshopHaters gona hate cuz they cant play a game
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Here's the thing...
    Among the SS tht i posted, 2 of those bms have the best gear on the server below rank 9...n one of em got hit for 14k n the other got hit for 19k with battousai....BATTOUSAI(the weakest magic skill lol)

    wat i m saying is if u know how to play a seeker, u can b pretty pro and rock at it..
    if u just swing sword n use skills randomly, well then u suck lol
    doesn't matter if a bm has mag marrow on, with fortify + quid pro quo, it decreases their mag resis exponentially...thts if they know wat the seeker's bt to do..a good bm nvr marrows against a seeker since they know we have both mag n phy attacks....just saying here xD

    Only thing I'd say though, yes that combo is OP if you get hit with it, but it's a fairly unreliable trick. Fortify's duration means you can only get off one, maybe 2 hits with blade affinity, so you'd need to be sparked.

    Just as a comparison...wizards have had the option to use the genie skill spark to reduce fire resist down to almost nothing as well...back when I was using +10 lunar I was consistently hitting with D. pyrogram for 7k + unsparked after the spark debuff + undine...could have easily gotten close to 30k after triple spark with crits and extreme poison.

    It's awesome for pk, where a lot of people run without cleric buffs, but it wasn't really that useful in TW, since it has only a 20 m range and it doesn't penetrate through cleric mag. resist buffs.

    In TW your "money" skill would be Gemini Slash...but you can't use fortify to debuff for Gemini...so a seeker in TW would essentially be a BM with range, except for a nice Gemini Slash zerk crit once in a blue moon. If you could corrdinate w/ your team though, you could essentually get a mini "dragon" effect for all the casters on your team...so seekers end up getting a role similar to BM's except with no stuns and more damage....haha.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Here are the SS of some of the Dmg tht i did to bms..
    n yes they're all bms..i love fighting bms with my seeker. u might say tht my seeker didn't do tht dmg but idc cuz i know i can do it n here's the proof :)

    http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/kiranpachhai/seekertakes19k.jpg
    http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/kiranpachhai/kentakes14k.jpg
    http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/kiranpachhai/epic12k.jpg
    http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/kiranpachhai/bryantakes19k.jpg

    Very impressive, you hit as hard as an unsparked, unbuffed wizzy with BIDS b:bye
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Hmm..r u sure bt this? cuz with TT90 berserk sword, i think i zerked a lot

    I heard the metal attacks don't zerk. I don't have a seeker myself but I trust that my source tested it with some degree of rigor.
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  • Man - Raging Tide
    Man - Raging Tide Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »
    At +12 with a zerk rank 9 seekers still only have 1/2 the phys attack of an archer

    your zerk+ crit = archer crit

    A convincing argument.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    There's my gear when they release rank 9 for earthguards..

    http://pwcalc.com/aa8475c992c2a2b3

    Lol interval cape on a non APS class. Nice wasting a gearslot
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Seekers have some pretty high skill damage but I don't think they have more than 2 attacks with very long range. From what I see they have 2 attacks at the 28 meter mark, 2 attacks at the 20 meter mark, and the rest mellee. If you dont kill in those 2 attacks from 28 meter you're going to have to get closer to attack again.

    I don't think they have the skill set to be a full ranged DD in TW though they can probably do pretty decent just spamming Gemini Slash / Heartseeker, and whatever melee / mid ranged AOEs they are lucky enough to pull off.
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  • ProtocoI - Harshlands
    ProtocoI - Harshlands Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    ... Got cut, nvm
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  • Obly - Dreamweaver
    Obly - Dreamweaver Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I don;t care what class is best in TW.

    DD wise yeah, Psy, Wiz and Archer are the mains here.


    But in all Honesty...R9 should have NEVER been introduced into this game, it has destroyed TW for most people!
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  • TheStalker - Dreamweaver
    TheStalker - Dreamweaver Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I don;t care what class is best in TW.

    DD wise yeah, Psy, Wiz and Archer are the mains here.


    But in all Honesty...R9 should have NEVER been introduced into this game, it has destroyed TW for most people!

    Yeah... and PvP in general b:surrender
  • So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Lol interval cape on a non APS class. Nice wasting a gearslot

    thts cuz the cape is my bm's...and didn't wanna wear a different cape xD
  • Queenofpower - Dreamweaver
    Queenofpower - Dreamweaver Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    All this about 3 squads to kill xCurse is overstated. Yes he is very very hard to kill, he plays his Psy very well (something rare in the full R9 players lol ) . But once we were pking at OT for fun.....it was xCurse vs about 6 of us....we did kill him many times...he also killed us all many times lol.....There is no other R9 Class as well geared as the 2 Psys in Dreamweaver AznBloodV(better geared than xCurse i think she has a few more +12 b:chuckle) and xCurse. Hence it is hard to compare....None of the Dreamweaver R9 Wizzy or venos have full +12 sets as far as i know......In tw there is so much commotion that 3 squads are trying to kill xCurse but half of them are not doing it correctly...Lets wait till other class R9 catch up to him refinewise.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Lol most ppl who say seekers suck are from pvp servers n its sad they know nothing about us...

    I can one shot any and all pro *** bms by hitting them for 15k+..wanna know how? n no i dont use gemini slash to one shot bms..

    3 spark + fortify(lvl 1 only) + quid pro + blade affinity + extreme poison + ion spike one shots most phy classes and if tht doesn't one shot, use battousai n u will die instantly..
    all i m saying is just cuz u've nvr met seeker who know wtf they're doing doesn't mean seekers suck lol
    its a shame ppl dont know the true potential of a seeker..just like they used to say sins sucked balls till someone reached 5 aps n started wtf pwning everyone at pvp lol
    n seeker is no different...no 5 aps sins or bms or barbs can kill us seekers at pvp if u got some immune to stun apocs with u and know wtf ur doing..

    wanna know how seekers r at TW? watch the TW vid below tht i did this past week..while ur at it, watch some other TW vids tht i made n come lets talk :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3shxRLz3Zk

    is this the video you're using to brag about seekers in TW? lol
    i like the part where you are running away why your B lane towers are getting taken down.
    also, pro tip, earthflame isnt all that usefull in tw.

    both factions are clearly very novice at TW, and i think i saw you burn up about 1m in sutras.

    that looked like a 30 v 30.

    next time you want to show off keep a damage log up.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    u do know the ranking page stopped working 6 months ago?

    Maybe ranking doesn't like RT? For HL it's only maybe 1 week behind.
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Very impressive, you hit as hard as an unsparked, unbuffed wizzy with BIDS b:bye

    Lol....^^ braindead wizzy its obvious seekers are not supose to do Magic damage as high as a wizard to another HA class. If that was the case, we would be far to OP for BMs, even more so now that they can't CC, and basically can't kill us if at equivelent gears ofc.

    Seekers can 1-2 shot AAs, and 2-4 shot LAs. in equivelent gear brackets.. those classes have how much HP? So really a NUMBER makes people fap an e-peen? We were not made to kill BMs or do Zomgawd damage to other HA classes. The reason we even have magic attacks is because LA are weak in both defenses,
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  • So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    is this the video you're using to brag about seekers in TW? lol
    i like the part where you are running away why your B lane towers are getting taken down.
    also, pro tip, earthflame isnt all that usefull in tw.

    both factions are clearly very novice at TW, and i think i saw you burn up about 1m in sutras.

    that looked like a 30 v 30.

    next time you want to show off keep a damage log up.

    I m not using my video to brag about me....many ppl who have commented so far in this thread think seekers suck balls at TW so i just wanted to show em thts not true at all..
    and lol at ur comment...u clearly have no idea about how TW works it looks like...in tht TW, we had a 3 way war to defend our lands so there were less ppl...and novice at TW? come to raging tide n then judge how ppl play..maybe u will learn a thing or two from us carebears
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I m not using my video to brag about me....many ppl who have commented so far in this thread think seekers suck balls at TW so i just wanted to show em thts not true at all..
    and lol at ur comment...u clearly have no idea about how TW works it looks like...in tht TW, we had a 3 way war to defend our lands so there were less ppl...and novice at TW? come to raging tide n then judge how ppl play..maybe u will learn a thing or two from us carebears

    you have earthflame on the genie you use for TW. you had 2 cats on your B lane towers and you decided to run in the other direction to get away from one DD. you didnt have a damage log up to see the damage you where doing, though im sure there was some its relative to who you were hitting. BMs with TT90 green axes, cataclerics with TT90 green weapons. venos using giant land pets and not air pets. rapid fire turrets. should i go on?

    why would i need to roll on RT to see how you tw? theres a 17 minute video of it right in this thread.
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  • Belvoure - Dreamweaver
    Belvoure - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    currently wizards probably Seekers when the gear is made fully available and they are more abundant.
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    ProtocoI - Harshlands wrote: »
    Some skills yes but Gemini slash gives 450% damage plus addition damage + (if they use soulsever stance at time) more metal damage + minus 10 attack and defense levels gone... I wanna know which BM skill comes close to that which is spam able, and then we can switch stances to northern waltz to decrease you defense levels even more and hit u again with Gemini or any combo of skills if u didn't fall the first time.

    Endgame weapons +12 on a seeker with zerk and high weapon damage??? That spells virtually instant 1-3 shot kill on all arcanes and LA.

    a barb is very good with a R9 +12 weapon, didnt you know?



    I kill all seekers b4 they come to me. when I'll see a seeker shine during TW, I'll tell it. but atm, at TW, they are a bit better than sin, but still useless.
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  • So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    you have earthflame on the genie you use for TW. you had 2 cats on your B lane towers and you decided to run in the other direction to get away from one DD. you didnt have a damage log up to see the damage you where doing, though im sure there was some its relative to who you were hitting. BMs with TT90 green axes, cataclerics with TT90 green weapons. venos using giant land pets and not air pets. rapid fire turrets. should i go on?

    why would i need to roll on RT to see how you tw? theres a 17 minute video of it right in this thread.

    so u decided to brief up how the server is by just watching one TW tht was 17 min long?
  • ProtocoI - Harshlands
    ProtocoI - Harshlands Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    a barb is very good with a R9 +12 weapon, didnt you know?



    I kill all seekers b4 they come to me. when I'll see a seeker shine during TW, I'll tell it. but atm, at TW, they are a bit better than sin, but still useless.

    *grins* well looks like we'll have plenty of fun once I get my sage books huh ;). I'll let the chips fall where they may, but I will have a great time proving you wrong bro ^^
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  • XCurse - Dreamweaver
    XCurse - Dreamweaver Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    R9 psy with good refine indeed the best tw and 1vs1 class b:laugh
    ofc u need to know how to play it and know who u facing b:bye
  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I m not using my video to brag about me....many ppl who have commented so far in this thread think seekers suck balls at TW so i just wanted to show em thts not true at all..
    and lol at ur comment...u clearly have no idea about how TW works it looks like...in tht TW, we had a 3 way war to defend our lands so there were less ppl...and novice at TW? come to raging tide n then judge how ppl play..maybe u will learn a thing or two from us carebears

    No offense, but posting videos of TWs against Wanted is not a convincing argument to make. They're not the strongest faction out there filled with OP people to judge how a seeker would hold up there.
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No offense, but posting videos of TWs against Wanted is not a convincing argument to make. They're not the strongest faction out there filled with OP people to judge how a seeker would hold up there.

    Oh ya mean r8 at best, geared seekers are supose to take on factions of r9s to show their viability in it?


    Perhaps most ya closed minded morons been to tucked away behind power players, to even know the diference between balance in gears.

    R8 seeker in a R8 dominate geared TW playing like that, says somthing.
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  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »
    Oh ya mean r8 at best, geared seekers are supose to take on factions of r9s to show their viability in it?


    Perhaps most ya closed minded morons been to tucked away behind power players, to even know the diference between balance in gears.

    R8 seeker in a R8 dominate geared TW playing like that, says somthing.

    This is a thread about r9 thread, dolt.

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