Most Useful Skills For A Veno's Genie?

i like Cloud eruption (for a free spark to pass to cleric or barb) Extreme Poison(to use in tandem with Amplify Damage) Holy Path(cause 15 m/s is fast and everyone will leave you in the dust if ya dun get it :P) Expell (to save your life in tricky situations) those are the ones i use

thumbs wrote: »

Earth Flame: All other methods of luring are painfully slow
Holy Path: mostly for emergency, other classes have to use it to keep up
Tangling Mire: Give Herc or melee's more aggro on bosses & combine w/Ironwood for ~95% pdef red
Absolute Domain: Expel is for wizards. AD-> Feral Concentration -10s of god mode
Cloud Eruption: Triple spark Nova for 1 hit kill 50+ mobs at a time

I partially disagree here , while earth flame can be useful to lure mob and catch it with pet , most time it's better to replace it with a skill like extreme poison (stacks with amplify) or a healing skill like Second Wind or Tree of Protection.

Earthflame is good for when you're too lazy to lure properly, and nothing else.
That still makes it just about the only genie skill I ever actually use.

Second wind for healing.
Earthquake for the interrupt (and I STILL need to get better at timing that)

The various -channel ones are nice too.

And the old standby of holy path.

My PK genie:

Second Wind
Expel - 8 Second immunity against physical attacks.
Holy Path (although I don't need it)
Fortify (I can't learn Demon Summer Sprint at my level yet)
Lightning Chaser

I intend to replace Lightning Chaser with Absolute Domain. I think that would be very pr0 :>

I'm almost shocked to see someone saying that "Expel is for wizards" when a sin can stunlock you really hard as often as he pleases and you can only use Feral Concentration once every 5 minutes with a 3 second channeling length. Probably plays on a PvE server where he can wait 5 minutes between duels, and always has full chi :O

My genie is set up like this;

Holy Path
Extreme Poison
Tree of Protection
Tangling Mire (for more debuff and because I'm Demon)
Absolute Domain


I find ToP more useful than Second Wind. I believe Second Wind, being an "instant heal" is more suitable for really squishy classes such as Psychic, Wizard, Cleric when they steal aggro/get attacked etc.

Well, since your a Venomancer there's no point in having Zeal pull, really. I do understand that it's faster but if you need space for something else Zeal's initial skill shall be taken out. I did love Discipline's flying boost. I used it a lot but I dumped it for Absolute Domain >.<

Also, are you PvE only or do you PvP sometimes? There's a major difference there to what skills are useful for a Venomancer. I built my genie for support and debuffs.

Simi_P - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hi Desdi,

No, I'm straight PvE. LOL I think I may have dueled my IRL boyfriend once or twice; just to see what it was like; I don't like to PK and I'm not in a TW faction. Although; since my IRL boyfriend/in game hubby has hit level 100 ahead of me; we have been discussing joining a faction that does do TW's. He's more into that idea however than I am; probably because he's a guy. lol. Also, I went Sage; does that make a difference? Oh and my genie is a Zeal; but I really prefer pulling with my pet.

Thanks:)

I'm pretty sure I saw you the other day on my other account in the game. Because I remember thinking that your SN must be from the Dark-Hunter series. b:chuckle

More on topic, a while back I read about some reply in a thread that said something like if you combo such and such veno skill with such and such genie skill then the veno ends up with something like 10 seconds of mobile invincibility but for the life of me I can't find that thread again. Anyone know what that was about?

_Ink_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm pretty sure I saw you the other day on my other account in the game. Because I remember thinking that your SN must be from the Dark-Hunter series. b:chuckle

More on topic, a while back I read about some reply in a thread that said something like if you combo such and such veno skill with such and such genie skill then the veno ends up with something like 10 seconds of mobile invincibility but for the life of me I can't find that thread again. Anyone know what that was about?

Absolute domain or any other apo items that make u imune to movement debuffs or demon summer Sprint + feral Concetration . woot Venos have god mode , take that sins xDb:dirty

_Ink_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

That is so epic. I need to catch up on buying my 79 skills!

I would do the same for Feral Concentration :[ But my genie has skills I don't want to give up so easily and I don't think I would PvP much to use it often anyways b:chuckle

Simi_P - Dreamweaver wrote: »

@Vedovis - So Feral Concentration & a Vacuity powder?

You're PvE, and Vacs are expensive. Just get Absolute Domain on your Genie: much cheaper! Veno doesn't need vacs for anything in PvE.

I went Sage; so I don't have demon summer sprint. I do have sage summer sprint, though; it removes 'negative effects'. Wouldn't a stun count as a negative effect?

Can't cast a spell when stunned.

Im using the following:

Genie: Discipline

Fortify -> stun prevent when using feral con (will be removed when i ve choosen smthng else, cause no longer needed thanks to demon summer sprint xD)

Extreme Poison -> 2nd amp skill, stacks with amplify damage (using both for 40% more dmg)
Tree of Protection -> saved my *** more then once

Tangle Mire -> pdef reduce is always nice

Wind Shield -> reduce damage taken, in my case up to 20%

Imo Holy Path is not needed for demon venos, cause summer sprint and fox change makes you move faster then 10 m/s without cooldown and genie energy consumption, which can be used for some nice skills to heal or increase damage dealt.

Anyway im fail in pk b:surrender

regards