A day without Stealth :D

Ryoutah - Harshlands · June 2011

If the Chinese devs finally decided to fix the stealth problem and take it off completely, how would you all =perfect world international= react to this sudden *improvement? b:dirty

RADD_RATT - Harshlands · June 2011

what are you smoking and where did you get it?

Psytrac - Dreamweaver · June 2011

stealth will never be completely removed. it is a sin trait and it is what their main focus is, it will NOT happen

Dralighte - Harshlands · June 2011

I'll spend 10k....

with IG coins in fireworks

ChiefZoltar - Heavens Tear · June 2011

Your detection level should magically increase to 150 if you've completed Celestial Demon or Sage cultivation making stealth against the few who are bored enough to do it useless.

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear · June 2011

It'd suck cause you can't run past mobs anymore but other then that I realy wouldn't give a flying f*ck... b:tired

_Nuriko_ - Lost City · June 2011

PWI would lose a bunch of cash shoppers and slowly dwindle into no maintenance's no bug fixes no gm responses. Oh wait nvm were at that stage.

Niteshadows - Harshlands · June 2011

Sins don't need stealth as u can see in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xix6pNxhkjc

Jellytoast - Sanctuary · June 2011

Niteshadows - Harshlands wrote: »

Sins don't need stealth as u can see in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xix6pNxhkjc

Gotta say, both of them are awesome. Stealth isn't everything, but I notice most people who use it are scared they'll be seen dead so they stealth away when they're about to die.

Ryoutah - Harshlands · June 2011

Then stealth needs to go. There shouldn't be a way past mortality. If the sin is about to get fried then I want my fish sticks now!

Psytrac - Dreamweaver · June 2011

FC + Stealth = 20 min-ish run
FC - Stealth = 1-2 hour run

^one of the benefits of stealth

RADD_RATT - Harshlands · June 2011

anyone that thinks stealth should go is straight up re.tarded. lets just take a away a clerics heals while were at it. and oh yeah lets make sage demon culti give a stealth lvl of 150 go **** yourself 90% of the people that play the game have a lvl 100+ and they would all do the culti if that happened. the class has a skill for reason. the only stealth nerf ive EVER heard that i can agree with would be 50% reduction is speed while stealth. but taking it away is **** and will never happen. keep dreaming.

Random - Harshlands · June 2011

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

FC + Stealth = 20 min-ish run
FC - Stealth = 1-2 hour run

^one of the benefits of stealth

like leveling up a toon isn't easy enough with how things stand today

o.o

Ryoutah - Harshlands · June 2011

RADD_RATT - Harshlands wrote: »

anyone that thinks stealth should go is straight up re.tarded. lets just take a away a clerics heals while were at it. and oh yeah lets make sage demon culti give a stealth lvl of 150 go **** yourself 90% of the people that play the game have a lvl 100+ and they would all do the culti if that happened. the class has a skill for reason. the only stealth nerf ive EVER heard that i can agree with would be 50% reduction is speed while stealth. but taking it away is **** and will never happen. keep dreaming.

Let's see, sins have infinite chi. Can stun lock better than a bm. Have teleport skills farther than an archer's range. Want me to keep going on? I know when a nub feels their only method of killing anyone in general is in jeopardy they are always quick to snap at you. LOL, roll a real class you fail. b:shutup

I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear · June 2011

Eh I see this as rather amusing. Stealth itself makes no differnece. It is the player themselves. Granted you have to be able to play and that is not a lot many do now. To many idiots play. Trying to compare a sin to wizz is just stupid and pointless. Being related to that vid. An archer vs sin or veno vs sin based like that where both actually can play. Would be far more interesting. Bm or barb vs sin as well. It would be the player and class type. Stealth itself is not a true problem for people that know how to deal with it. Not many do though. Less try to learn how.

A decent and possibly good remedy for the QQ'ing about stealth would have been runes that increase stelth detection lvl the max lvl a sin can get atm. Based off the rune lv ofc. With certain rune levels not avlaible till sin stealth lvl goes up as well. That would have been a good addition and a reason to get runes imo within reason ofc. It would have been an interesting aspect to see how people deal with that and how sins adapt as well. Just my thoughts on that.

This isn't a Q_Qing thread though or shouldn't be. If you don't like something try an find fixes for it. Ways to prevent that problem from effecting you. If ya dun want to reroll the class an stop complainin. Just that simple.

RADD_RATT - Harshlands · June 2011

@ Ryo- youre pretending i said things i didnt. i never said sins were NOT OP. and i never said i couldnt play my class with out stealth. im just saying stealth is the ONE thing you shouldnt nerf on the sins. lets just take away venos pets or a clerics iron heart and BB. go ahead and nerf some of the sins other skills see if i care, ill still kill you just fine.

Psytrac - Dreamweaver · June 2011

Random - Harshlands wrote: »

like leveling up a toon isn't easy enough with how things stand today

o.o

with $0 cash and 20k to your name?

RADD_RATT - Harshlands · June 2011

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

with $0 cash and 20k to your name?

Yes. If you disagree try lvling with out your hypers.

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear · June 2011

Ryoutah - Harshlands wrote: »

Then stealth needs to go. There shouldn't be a way past mortality. If the sin is about to get fried then I want my fish sticks now!

You've bin reading my comic haven't you? b:surrender

I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear · June 2011

i have not but if it is amusing I may wats teh link? tell meh!b:beg
Yes i am bored to death its why I am wanting to read it XD

Psytrac - Dreamweaver · June 2011

RADD_RATT - Harshlands wrote: »

Yes. If you disagree try lvling with out your hypers.

oh, I use hypers in FC, with a 101 "clearing" it for me

Zoe - Heavens Tear · June 2011

If stealth was removed I would see all the bad sins complain about not being able to kill anyone, and all the good ones continue on as if nothing happened because they didn't need it to begin with.

I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear · June 2011

Definatly. It is why I honestly suggest adding runes with increased stealth lev and adding a req rune lvl for stealth lv basis within reason ofc. This would be rather fun and a reason to actually keep lvling and playing. As well as aquring different aspects of the game. Since this would mean ppl have to actually play to get that and such hehe

also this though is not really a req to do if you want to beat them. However it takes a specialized genie to do it. That being the bs part. ijs

Psytrac - Dreamweaver · June 2011

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If stealth was removed I would see all the bad sins complain about not being able to kill anyone, and all the good ones continue on as if nothing happened because they didn't need it to begin with.

oh I'd be pissed off about it going away, doesn't mean I couldn't kill anything..

RADD_RATT - Harshlands · June 2011

You're all mentally challenged. And i would bet my left nut none of you have played a sin in a real TW. Try taking out a cleric in the back of a cata squad and live with out stealth. But because I don't feel like arguing a point to special people ill just play along. NERF THE STEALTH WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!111!!11ONE!!!!!ONE!!ELLEVEN111!!

I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear · June 2011

I srsly laugh at ppl like you. That rage about a lot of stuff. Yet never have the ability to use common sense. A good cata squad wouldnt have a dead cleric with them. Nor would they be going without their support. This is why I see idiots like you that tend to make me laugh.
As it is a good cata cleric wouldnt die to you. If they do thats because odds are they are not a good cata cleric. Were not paying attention to your hits and ignoring you. If that or generally didn;t care to deal with you since your an obvious idiot and not worth their time.b:bye

RADD_RATT - Harshlands · June 2011

I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I srsly laugh at ppl like you. That rage about a lot of stuff. Yet never have the ability to use common sense. A good cata squad wouldnt have a dead cleric with them. Nor would they be going without their support. This is why I see idiots like you that tend to make me laugh.
As it is a good cata cleric wouldnt die to you. If they do thats because odds are they are not a good cata cleric. Were not paying attention to your hits and ignoring you. If that or generally didn;t care to deal with you since your an obvious idiot and not worth their time.b:bye

lol a good sin doesnt need stealth to kill people.......yet........a sin WITH stealth cant kill a cleric...........will someone with a brain come back me up here?

Zoe - Heavens Tear · June 2011

Aizza - Harshlands wrote: »

That's simple:

1. 60 Tokens > 6 Wine > Wedding Invitation fm Wedding NPC > 1 extra shards quest per day (Crazy Stone Quest from NPC Tuheng)

2. 40 Tokens > 4 Martial Arts Scrolls > Martial Arts NPC (who converts up to 4 a day to Elite Golden Silkwork) > 50% exp - 1 hour

4. Bounty Hunter (free and just takes time, people and ok sometimes wine)

This is the old school method of leveling.

b:victory

Not quite. Tokens did not exist at first and neither did bounty hunter. The past map was added fairly early on so that's fine. The old method was everything you mentioned, other than the parts I quoted you on.

Random - Harshlands · June 2011

the old method was
1) finish what quests you have
2)hope some oracles drop and no pkers are there camping if not buy some
3) grind the last 30% (and pray to god a 2x event comes up)

atleast this was it when i was lvl 3x

RADD_RATT - Harshlands · June 2011

Aizza - Harshlands wrote: »

That's simple:

1. 60 Tokens > 6 Wine > Wedding Invitation fm Wedding NPC > 1 extra shards quest per day (Crazy Stone Quest from NPC Tuheng)

2. 40 Tokens > 4 Martial Arts Scrolls > Martial Arts NPC (who converts up to 4 a day to Elite Golden Silkwork) > 50% exp - 1 hour

3. World Quest (free and just takes time)

4. Bounty Hunter (free and just takes time, people and ok sometimes wine)

5. Dragon Quests (free and just takes time)

6. Punish and Praise Quests from Envoy of Justice (NPCS vary according to level). You purchase a Order of Justice and then select a mob to kill) once per hour only. The trick here is to select a mob you have a quest for, so you are killing 2 birds with one stone.

7. Fishing & Mijii > head to Lonely Sea with a group, get your 2x Experience Scrolls ready and aoe (we call it fishing - these mobs are highly aggressive, spawn fast and give good experience).

8. Spiders > same as above but the spiders are around Avalance and around Snowy.

9. Set up a chat room (FB Help 19-79 etc..) and offer your services to those that have tabs for FBs, since they do give experience to squad members.

10. TT - there is (sorry I forget) some repeatable quests in TT (I think 2-3?), and they give experience.

11. Quests and Mijii (dbl exp scrolls), squad up, run your quests

12. Chronos map 3 > AOE Party and Mijii

This is the old school method of leveling.

b:victory

Steath is a perk... but not necessary.

Cool dude, I'm glad you figured it out. Even doing those things though would take you AGES compaired to hypering. I never said it was impossible though.

Sneakret - Heavens Tear · June 2011

Zhen parties bch's

Yea those were actually good times. As far as stealth, hell I don't care, maybe keep it for pve purposes and just yank the cord by making stealth detection level 300 on all players by default so it's disabled in pk.

I don't even want to comment on how easy it is to take out a cleric in TW w/o stealth let alone that I've done it in the past without a charm or pots too... Oh whoops I made a comment.

A day without Stealth :D

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