Best arcane DD?

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  • Magicsaber - Dreamweaver
    Magicsaber - Dreamweaver Posts: 727 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ...
    Roll a Wizard. Nobody plays them anymore, so the "New Generation" PWI doesn't know what to do when they get roflpwned by a Mage for 30k damage.
    Some of players even not know, that Wizards can heal.

    I was in squad with few level 100 players in fb59, Assassin level 90+ with 5,5k life (without cleric) , and Assassin was in fear to tank, because he could take agro. All of them were waiting for Venomancer with Hercules to take agro.

    Edit:
    To be healing by Wizard, tank must tell him to heal, of course.
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  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    You sure? Psy's lvl 100 skill hits like a train. There's also Black Voodoo.


    Psychic:

    Stone Smasher
    Range 28.5 meters
    Mana 750
    Channel 4.0 second(s)
    Cast 1.0 second(s)
    Cooldown 60.0 second(s)
    Weapon Soulsphere, Unarmed

    Requisite Spiritual Cultivation Celestial Sage/Demon
    Use all of one's energy to invoke the spirit of the Mountain.
    Slams the target and all enemies around it.
    Attack all enemy targets within 8 meters,
    dealing damage based on your attack, plus 400%
    gear's magical attack and 10253.1 Earth damage.
    Reduces target's attack speed by 30% for 8 seconds.

    Costs 2 Sparks


    Wizard:

    ●Black Ice Dragon Strike
    Range 30.0 meters
    Mana 655
    Channel 4.0 seconds
    Cast 1.6 seconds
    Cooldown 30.0 seconds
    Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

    Requisite Cultivation Master of Harmony
    Focus your Chi to summon an icy dragon that soars into the sky and smashes down
    onto the target and enemies within 12.0 meters, dealing water damage equal to base
    magic damage plus 500% of weapon damage plus 13955.0. Has a 95% chance to slow enemies by 60% for 8.0 seconds. Also has a chance to increase your magical critical hit rate.

    Requires two Sparks.

    Sage version gives a 50% chance to increase magic critical hit rate by 30% for 10 seconds.



    So it's all between Psychic's Black Voodoo vs Wizard's higher weapon damage %, higher addon dmg, crit buff, better range, bigger AoE and much shorter cooldown.


    Bigger AoE = more targets caught within = more damage per hit ;)
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  • Leoti - Heavens Tear
    Leoti - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ....You don't like Venomancers, yet you're playing the class that's murdering them? -.- That makes sense.
    [/sarcasm]
    I started a Mystic because I thought they were good for damage and squad support with the debuffs and heals but its the AOEs that are letting the team down, I dont like to use Thicket in FF runs because sometimes half the pull runs away messing everything up and just the constant spamming of one skill is quite boring.
    If you have a huge wallet--> Psychic
    If you have a huge wallet and BRAINCELLS to work a class-->Psychics
    I already have pretty decent equipment for an arcane user, x2 95 lunar gold rings, warsoul 70 hat from champ scroll, TT90 set (this was before all the easy rep gaining) all +5 and now the wraithgate chan robe +5 so hopefully this would make a psychic better?
    Roll a Wizard. Nobody plays them anymore, so the "New Generation" PWI doesn't know what to do when they get roflpwned by a Mage for 30k damage.
    I do have a wizard, its level 95 sage but I can never squad for FF or BH on HT! Thats why I rolled my Mystic for a chance to finally be accepted into squad. Hopefully with a psy things will be different?
  • AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    If your rerolling for the sake of getting into squads i'd say your making the wrong decision.

    Play a class that YOU like whether or not you are a first choice within squad making.

    Don't be a dime 'a dozen, work your class and under stand it cause YOU like it, not because "a squad" likes having you around. once you play your class because you like playing it, you'll get better at it and people will recoqnize your talent + quality within a squad.

    but thats just my 2 cents
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ....You don't like Venomancers, yet you're playing the class that's murdering them? -.- That makes sense.
    [/sarcasm]

    If you have a huge wallet--> Psychic
    If you have a huge wallet and BRAINCELLS to work a class-->Psychics

    There's a different between the two. You can be one of the two people: urDian, or JaFeKeys...two Psychics well known in Harshlands.

    urDian has a huge wallet, with +12 R9 and insane amounts of skill. He learned to play the class BEFORE he spent the money. Good job!

    JaFe on the other hand, spent a skillion dollars on R8 +12 and found out that he didn't know how to play his class at all like an idiot! :< Boooooo

    Roll a Wizard. Nobody plays them anymore, so the "New Generation" PWI doesn't know what to do when they get roflpwned by a Mage for 30k damage.

    If you would stop hyper grinding on FoxWing supreme's and had half the skill it takes to play PWI, you would realize by now you don't need a wallet to get a psychic or any class for that matter to r8/r9+10 or beyond refines and good shardsb:bye.
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  • Nareeah - Lost City
    Nareeah - Lost City Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited May 2011

    I could sit here and talk all day about how good each is but in my honest opinion, I'd pick a psychic. Plus from a barbs point of view, the psychic always takes aggro before the wiz.

    it's not all in the skill dmg or channel
    psys get more mattack points per one magic then wizzies

    that should be nerfed imo to same thing as we get and their weapons usually have higher attack then our

    but Anima has a point play a class that u like cuz if u wanna get in pts as AA go be a cleric otherwise roll a sin or a BM

    cuz honestly most ppl playing now are total Dbags :) hence why i love when they beg me to go GV then i just lol :)
  • _Petal_ - Harshlands
    _Petal_ - Harshlands Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    If you would stop hyper grinding on FoxWing supreme's and had half the skill it takes to play PWI, you would realize by now you don't need a wallet to get a psychic or any class for that matter to r8/r9+10 or beyond refines and good shardsb:bye.

    Come to west and say that to my face. No, wait...you're too busy trolling forums to do that. If you're not careful, I may catch up to that overpriced Venomancer of yours. You may want to stop flapping your ****, and start grinding your OWN foxwings, before I DO catch up.
    (Who hypers foxwings anyway?)
    It would be horribly embarrassing if I popped up one day and you were unprepared. There's a reason WHY Psychics are a scary class, and I've been playing mine up to endgame for a very long time.

    I tell you what--If you can actually put an SS on Harshland forums with me hyper grinding foxwings, or even CLAIMING that I did, I will quit playing PWI entirely. b:bye Good luck with that. (Because it never happened. Don't tell everybody about YOUR bad grinding techniques.)

    OP--> Just don't be like 98% of people who rolled Psychics because they heard it was a good class? I'd go with what Anima said....pick a class because YOU like it, not because some pansy-**** squad won't take you. I would keep playing your Wizard...ijs.
    They made fun of me because I wasn't a R8 Psychic...and then came third cast. It's not funny anymore.

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  • Aracnius - Dreamweaver
    Aracnius - Dreamweaver Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Some of players even not know, that Wizards can heal.

    I was in squad with few level 100 players in fb59, Assassin level 90+ with 5,5k life (without cleric) , and Assassin was in fear to tank, because he could take agro. All of them were waiting for Venomancer with Hercules to take agro.

    Edit:
    To be healing by Wizard, tank must tell him to heal, of course.

    hmm, in my lvl 70's on my psy, while doing a BH59 i believe, both me and a wizzy duo'ed the instance, both in the same lvl range

    i tanked while the wizzy healed me o.o, although when talking about wich class is better, it all depends how much you willing to spend on gear

    psychic - spend a lot and its probably the best and most OP end game PvP character (with soulskills)
    wizzard - i dont really play this class much so i can't make a solid statement, they just have some really nice skills, with DB and heal
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    One with a better defense, produces more offense.
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  • Leoti - Heavens Tear
    Leoti - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Psychics fail... TOO MUCH

    I was watching you last night at west gate b:cute

    "I'm only opening packs"
    *Guy come out of no where.... dies*

    Random guy "wow he just looked at her and he died"
  • Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I was watching you last night at west gate b:cute

    "I'm only opening packs"
    *Guy come out of no where.... dies*

    Random guy "wow he just looked at her and he died"

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


    stalker!
  • Leoti - Heavens Tear
    Leoti - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


    stalker!

    It was purely in the interest of science?

    Well I have decided to try a psy, looking for it to be plvled in FF though since I really cant be bothered leveling it from level 1.
  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Come to west and say that to my face. No, wait...you're too busy trolling forums to do that. If you're not careful, I may catch up to that overpriced Venomancer of yours. You may want to stop flapping your ****, and start grinding your OWN foxwings, before I DO catch up.
    (Who hypers foxwings anyway?)
    It would be horribly embarrassing if I popped up one day and you were unprepared. There's a reason WHY Psychics are a scary class, and I've been playing mine up to endgame for a very long time.

    I tell you what--If you can actually put an SS on Harshland forums with me hyper grinding foxwings, or even CLAIMING that I did, I will quit playing PWI entirely. b:bye Good luck with that. (Because it never happened. Don't tell everybody about YOUR bad grinding techniques.)

    OP--> Just don't be like 98% of people who rolled Psychics because they heard it was a good class? I'd go with what Anima said....pick a class because YOU like it, not because some pansy-**** squad won't take you. I would keep playing your Wizard...ijs.

    I don't grind Fox wings Glacial Maidens are betterb:bye. Plus I could roll a toon are your sever Power level to 102 1 shot you no problem...But your not exactly worth the time to do that, plus I would not want to hinder your foxwing hyperingb:surrender.
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  • SoniMax - Sanctuary
    SoniMax - Sanctuary Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    It was purely in the interest of science?

    Well I have decided to try a psy, looking for it to be plvled in FF though since I really cant be bothered leveling it from level 1.
    Yaay PSY's FTW

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  • Alondark - Heavens Tear
    Alondark - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Dont worry ive rolled a pych as well and currently running her threw FF b:laugh, NOw i just gotta look into all there skills and practice on her in pvp :) the R9 daggs are all right but im looking forward to R9 on my pych :)
  • Alondark - Heavens Tear
    Alondark - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    one Thing dont you all like how it says here when you started posted on forums and not actually when you started playing the game lol.
  • Yui_ - Harshlands
    Yui_ - Harshlands Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Dont worry ive rolled a pych as well and currently running her threw FF b:laugh, NOw i just gotta look into all there skills and practice on her in pvp :) the R9 daggs are all right but im looking forward to R9 on my pych :)

    Just wanted to point out that my Mystic's Storm Mistress does about 12k+ damage a hit to a ? boss every 2 seconds. And that's not counting my Thickets huge spike damage on bosses either.

    High refined Psys may still beat us out, but I just thought I'd through that out there. :)
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  • Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Just wanted to point out that my Mystic's Storm Mistress does about 12k+ damage a hit to a ? boss every 2 seconds. And that's not counting my Thickets huge spike damage on bosses either.

    High refined Psys may still beat us out, but I just thought I'd through that out there. :)

    Nobody cares about Mystics. Genesis expansion is still irrelevant to the development of this game. Anything besides original + Tideborn expansion is not to be considered.
  • Lylinn - Raging Tide
    Lylinn - Raging Tide Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    i would say Psys are the best arcane DD especially R9 Psys b:cute
  • jojojojordan667
    jojojojordan667 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Best DD in all of game


    Venomancer
    Demon
    5.0 aps
    Demon Melee mastery
    Herc (Give it the skill that lowers hp/pdef or whatever its called)

    Thank you private servers...
    Bada bing, Bada boom.
  • Leoti - Heavens Tear
    Leoti - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Best DD in all of game


    Venomancer
    Demon
    5.0 aps
    Demon Melee mastery
    Herc (Give it the skill that lowers hp/pdef or whatever its called)

    Thank you private servers...
    Bada bing, Bada boom.

    Go away.
  • Yui_ - Harshlands
    Yui_ - Harshlands Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Nobody cares about Mystics. Genesis expansion is still irrelevant to the development of this game. Anything besides original + Tideborn expansion is not to be considered.

    Spoken like a true fish.

    Undeserved sense of superiority ftw!
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  • Futurelord - Dreamweaver
    Futurelord - Dreamweaver Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    If it wasnt for aps i would tell ya to role a cleric, damage for demons is enough to own in pk and carry your weight in pve, to try playing the highest damage Arcane class is just asking to die all the time from aggro...again, if aps didnt exist. (Pro cleric survival skills are sweet)

    Otherwise i would say any class works with the best gear (Clerics). Except mystics, people are gonna try replacing clerics with mystics (like the annoying tanks they are) and force you to do the healing if the squad cant find a cleric, as the best DD in the squad (cause i actually spam cragglord) i find it to be tiresome.

    I'll get back to you when i finish getting my cleric to 10k hp.
    Pure DD power + no Defense = whats the point when your dead...
    Decent DD power + Rarely dying = Nuff said, clerics rule.


    (Warning, the views from this reply does not reflect the opinions of Futurelord or his company.)
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  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Spoken like a true fish.

    Undeserved sense of superiority ftw!

    Spoken like a true idiot. Undeserved sense of intelligence ftw!
    Gorgn00b is right, Mystics aren't worth mentioning. Their damage in PVP is laughable compared to other arcane classes. Any other AA class with equal or even less refines will out DD you. Hell, your trump card, the craglord that does awesome damage lasts 20 seconds and moves slower than a snail. One Holy path and you can literally just stand there and watch it follow you only to disappear when it reaches you. If by then you didn't one shot it.

    And the whole 'awesome damage" on [?] bosses makes me chuckle. If you want to make a character, level it to 100, so you can go around being proud of big numbers on [?] mobs, go ahead booboo, no one's going to stop you.
    Once you're done, and ready to make a more effective PVP/TW character, focus on choosing between Wizard or Psychic.

    My input is simply this, psychics are awesome, they're incredible killing machines.
    Wizards are awesome, they're incredible killing machines.

    Play both, decide which one you like more, not skill-wise. But either which one you think is prettier, or which one you think appeals to you more. When it comes down to it both of them have their own ups and downs. But honestly, they're both equally feared when geared properly and played by someone who knows what to do :O

    Also, Gorg. You still owe me a present.
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  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Oh, at Futurelord. Clerics are only there for healing. They suck at PVP, if you wish to debate me. Go PK on your server's hotspot PK zone and tell me how many other clerics are there not being killed every other second by an assassin or any other class.
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  • Praxalis - Archosaur
    Praxalis - Archosaur Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    .. Hell, your trump card, the craglord that does awesome damage lasts 20 seconds and moves slower than a snail. One Holy path and you can literally just stand there and watch it follow you only to disappear when it reaches you. If by then you didn't one shot it.

    If the mystic is dumb enough to not control skill their opponent, your point is valid...

    Devil Stun, Listless, Gale, Occult, Thicket + chi pot if youre trying to summon after 2 spark burn...but I guess a point from a small observer is irrelevant.

    You act as if all servers' populations can adapt so quickly, or are half as "smart"...

    We are about combos and people seem to forget that. We don't have "trademark" skills like BIDS, BT, Tempest, Amp, Nix Bleed (not necessarily a skill but mass QQ about it) Purge, Soulburn etc. etc. ANY class when geared properly can be feared. Wizzy and Psy isnt the only thing out there and honestly I like it when people turn their noses down on the newer classes. If they get careless in TW's, get careless in PK then they freak too late that someone skilled is actually playing behind the screen and is suddenly a threat, all the better for those who worked up the skill level.

    We can be support (Demon res w/ 100% Hp return, Demon/Sage Salvation with their aoe shields, Fallen petals which stacks with IH and ticks after a few, Healing herbs and plant debuffs) Or we can DD (Nature Vengance + Absorb Soul, Energy Leech Storm for a boost in mag attack, Demon Thicket when amp fires off,) and we can control (Devil Stun,Thicket, Gale, Listless Herb when Lys'd can sleep target for 13 sec-otherwise will constantly have the chance to interrupt, Bramble Tornado demon version will grant an extra knockback meter) We have the ONLY KNOCKBACK THAT WORKS IN PVP. How you dont see that as effective PvP/TW wise I don't even get...
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    You sure? Psy's lvl 100 skill hits like a train. There's also Black Voodoo.

    Late reply sorry, Blade tempest counts base mag attack 2x one for phys once for mag last i looked. Plus with both classes in full rank 9 its roughly 100 attack levels vs 120. I dont thing a 10% higher amp on the psy offsets 2x base damage.
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  • Yui_ - Harshlands
    Yui_ - Harshlands Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Spoken like a true idiot. Undeserved sense of intelligence ftw!
    Gorgn00b is right, Mystics aren't worth mentioning. Their damage in PVP is laughable compared to other arcane classes. Any other AA class with equal or even less refines will out DD you. Hell, your trump card, the craglord that does awesome damage lasts 20 seconds and moves slower than a snail. One Holy path and you can literally just stand there and watch it follow you only to disappear when it reaches you. If by then you didn't one shot it.

    And the whole 'awesome damage" on [?] bosses makes me chuckle. If you want to make a character, level it to 100, so you can go around being proud of big numbers on [?] mobs, go ahead booboo, no one's going to stop you.
    Once you're done, and ready to make a more effective PVP/TW character, focus on choosing between Wizard or Psychic.

    My input is simply this, psychics are awesome, they're incredible killing machines.
    Wizards are awesome, they're incredible killing machines.

    Play both, decide which one you like more, not skill-wise. But either which one you think is prettier, or which one you think appeals to you more. When it comes down to it both of them have their own ups and downs. But honestly, they're both equally feared when geared properly and played by someone who knows what to do :O

    Also, Gorg. You still owe me a present.

    Was gonna go on a rant here but Praxalis beat me to it, well said. ^^

    But yeah Just reading all your other posts I can see your level of pvp insight. Nothing else really needs to be said. b:bye
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