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Zanryu - Dreamweaver
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Why doesn't PWI just give every starting character 200k rep and instead of having rep badge sales we can have Dragon Orb Ocean sales for 5 gold each! That way everyone is able to get R8 and +7, 8, 9, or 10 their gear for a fraction of the cost! I mean.. PWI has almost become a private server, why not finish the job?
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Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »Why doesn't PWI just give every starting character 200k rep and instead of having rep badge sales we can have Dragon Orb Ocean sales for 5 gold each! That way everyone is able to get R8 and +7, 8, 9, or 10 their gear for a fraction of the cost! I mean.. PWI has almost become a private server, why not finish the job?
It will never be free but they tend to have steeper and steeper sales to try to keep up with people losing interest.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Fistol - Raging Tide wrote: »If only they realise.. not having a sale every week actually improves sale result.
This is PW we're talking about... they can't even implement a mount or expansion correctly, what makes you think they'd realize something like that?0 -
Yall just hating on a perfect world runed by a not so Perfect Company ok? Ok! b:avoid0
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i know a private server of PWI that has over 20 classes.. One class is Super Saiyans , they have Dragon ball z moves like kamehameha and spirit bomb distructo disc stuff like that.. its awesome, its so much better than pwi in pvp.0
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So wheres this SS you were telling me about Death?0
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Zenorx - Harshlands wrote: »So wheres this SS you were telling me about Death?
b:avoid I don't has a SS0 -
DeathMethod - Harshlands wrote: »b:avoid I don't has a SS
nab nab
Told you i delt 3k damage not 500 ><0 -
Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »Why doesn't PWI just give every starting character 200k rep and instead of having rep badge sales we can have Dragon Orb Ocean sales for 5 gold each! That way everyone is able to get R8 and +7, 8, 9, or 10 their gear for a fraction of the cost! I mean.. PWI has almost become a private server, why not finish the job?
I was gonna say, that sounds like a private server... Until, I read the last bit of your post, where you admit that would be a private server, if they did that.
But, yeah. On a serious note, PWI has become very much like a private server. Why would I need R9 or 2nd stage Nirvana for killing mobs/bosses/quests/instances? You don't, lol. With 5aps and R8 so easily available, one has to wonder - why? Why make end-game gear so damn easy (beside's the fact it brings cash in when people want these items)? +10 gear is extremely common and easy to obtain as well. Why would I need R8 +10 daggers, for instance? Beside's PvP, where it would be competitive versus another player, there is no point.
Hold on a sec... I'll go kill Kimsa with my 5aps +10 R8 daggers... *2 seconds later*, boss dead. Wow, I really needed this wep to kill this insanely tough boss.0 -
Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »I was gonna say, that sounds like a private server... Until, I read the last bit of your post, where you admit that would be a private server, if they did that.
But, yeah. On a serious note, PWI has become very much like a private server. Why would I need R9 or 2nd stage Nirvana for killing mobs/bosses/quests/instances? You don't, lol. With 5aps and R8 so easily available, one has to wonder - why? Why make end-game gear so damn easy (beside's the fact it brings cash in when people want these items)? +10 gear is extremely common and easy to obtain as well. Why would I need R8 +10 daggers, for instance? Beside's PvP, where it would be competitive versus another player, there is no point.
Hold on a sec... I'll go kill Kimsa with my 5aps +10 R8 daggers... *2 seconds later*, boss dead. Wow, I really needed this wep to kill this insanely tough boss.
Hey man, Kimsa's a beast. I don't know how we ever managed to beat him without a 5APS Sin/BM/whatever else with a +10/11/12 weapon, I think we just got lucky. b:surrender
They need to stop breaking their damn game already, I miss the way it used to be. Now it's just two steps away from being a private server.0 -
And sadly, as the complany progresses in making it easier to noob level toons, the playerbase is becoming so stupid that the seasoned players are leaving. Never mind that it's the seasoned players that are more likely to invest in the game, rather than the horde of kiddies that barely get an allowance.
PWE needs to stop catering to people that don't have the common sense God gave a grasshopper.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
This game became a private server as soon as packs and R8 was stuffed into the cash shop, from there it got worse which we already know.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »This game became a private server as soon as packs and R8 was stuffed into the cash shop, from there it got worse which we already know.
And if you had any doubt after that, now we have Motorcycles. >.<Take the time to look for your answer before you post like an idiot.
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Allisandre - Sanctuary wrote: »And if you had any doubt after that, now we have Motorcycles. >.<
you mean broken lawn mowers, seriously, they sound like a crappy riding mower, and they dont even look that cool imo.0 -
Yeah those "motorcycles" sound like an 80 year old man (who smoked his whole life) coughing up some nasty junk. Every time I hear it I have to move and check my shoes, make sure nothing got on 'em.0
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So what...60-75 mil can get you in r-8 gear. r-8 gear is sub-par in comparrison to nirvana/r9 which was flooding into the player base as it was. But now r8 gears are today, like tt90 gears were of yesterday in comparison to value and strength. Simply makes you a speedbump to anyone else with better gears. And tt90 gears when r8 was the ZOMG oober thing, was obtainable for a full set at values of well....60-75ish mil. Nothings changed, just to become a speed bump, you pay PWI.
Still far from private server status.re0 -
ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »So what...60-75 mil can get you in r-8 gear. r-8 gear is sub-par in comparrison to nirvana/r9 which was flooding into the player base as it was. But now r8 gears are today, like tt90 gears were of yesterday in comparison to value and strength. Simply makes you a speedbump to anyone else with better gears. And tt90 gears when r8 was the ZOMG oober thing, was obtainable for a full set at values of well....60-75ish mil. Nothings changed, just to become a speed bump, you pay PWI.
Still far from private server status.
Rank 8's power is far too much for its cost, it's able to hit extremely hard and you can get it for, in comparison to gear of the same tier, extremely cheap. 64m during a rep sale gets you a weapon that's stronger than +4 TT99 gold.... Rank 8 was hard to get for a reason, because it was powerful. Having it available as easily as it is now is just plain broken, no matter how you look at it, the people that the R8 players are speedbumps for? They're just far more broken.0 -
Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »Rank 8's power is far too much for its cost, it's able to hit extremely hard and you can get it for, in comparison to gear of the same tier, extremely cheap. 64m during a rep sale gets you a weapon that's stronger than +4 TT99 gold.... Rank 8 was hard to get for a reason, because it was powerful. Having it available as easily as it is now is just plain broken, no matter how you look at it, the people that the R8 players are speedbumps for? They're just far more broken.
Broken for who? I think it fixed it for those that ONLY play this game for the PvP/TW asspect of the game...weekend warriors if ya will. PWI doesn't provide enough interesting PvE content to keep people interested in farming till their eyes bleed just for an hour or two of fun at most on the weekends.. Hell the original MMO wasnt quite that repetative in aquiring gears. The weapon maybe -ok- in regards to hitting hard, but up against nivana its still subpar. And the lvl 12 gears is **** to those lvled weapons. Sorry but r8 at the price isn't game breaking. All you get is some gear thats only good for a short run, maybe while you actually have to farm for a nirvana goal... It cant be recrafted, it can't be resold, it can't become better, just gets deleted.re0 -
ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »Broken for who? I think it fixed it for those that ONLY play this game for the PvP/TW asspect of the game...weekend warriors if ya will. PWI doesn't provide enough interesting PvE content to keep people interested in farming till their eyes bleed just for an hour or two of fun at most on the weekends.. Hell the original MMO wasnt quite that repetative in aquiring gears. The weapon maybe -ok- in regards to hitting hard, but up against nivana its still subpar. And the lvl 12 gears is **** to those lvled weapons. Sorry but r8 at the price isn't game breaking. All you get is some gear thats only good for a short run, maybe while you actually have to farm for a nirvana goal... It cant be recrafted, it can't be resold, it can't become better, just gets deleted.
R8 Weapons are comparable to Nirvana... for a fraction of the cost... You're telling me a Wizard that can hit me for 4k non crit, non debuffed, non sparked, and not an ulti isn't broken? Unless you're like full +10 that's insane. Granted I can still defend myself enough that I can win but that's only because I know what the **** I'm doing, and even then if I make a slight mistake I'm boned. Why? Because Rank 8 isn't as weak as you think, it may not be as good as Nirv for some classes (BMs and Sins mainly) but on the Arcanes and Archers that **** hurts. A lot. The only way you can even really take the kind of damage it dishes it is with highly refined gear (+5 and higher on most pieces with good shards).
It doesn't matter that theyre might be something better later on, the fact is that for the cost Rank 8 is unbalanced.0 -
Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »R8 Weapons are comparable to Nirvana... for a fraction of the cost... You're telling me a Wizard that can hit me for 4k non crit, non debuffed, non sparked, and not an ulti isn't broken? Unless you're like full +10 that's insane. Granted I can still defend myself enough that I can win but that's only because I know what the **** I'm doing, and even then if I make a slight mistake I'm boned. Why? Because Rank 8 isn't as weak as you think, it may not be as good as Nirv for some classes (BMs and Sins mainly) but on the Arcanes and Archers that **** hurts. A lot. The only way you can even really take the kind of damage it dishes it is with highly refined gear (+5 and higher on most pieces with good shards).
It doesn't matter that theyre might be something better later on, the fact is that for the cost Rank 8 is unbalanced.
At what gold prices are? You are paying 60-75 USD for a -weapon- because the rest is for most part is junk. In all reality, that is not cheap, or free, considering its a GAME amarite?
Since it IS soooo easily gotten, then its not game breaking, because then everyone could get "easily" and defend agains a lvl 14 weapon right?
Its game breaking when only a select few can get it easily, then no one else can...
see PWI vs Player/base - case #777-medalsofglory998re0 -
ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »At what gold prices are? You are paying 60-75 USD for a -weapon- because the rest is for most part is junk. In all reality, that is not cheap, or free, considering its a GAME amarite?
Since it IS soooo easily gotten, then its not game breaking, because then everyone could get "easily" and defend agains a lvl 14 weapon right?
Its game breaking when only a select few can get it easily, then no one else can...
see PWI vs Player/base - case #777-medalsofglory998
May not be broken in the same way as R9 but it's still broken, you have idiots out there one shotting each other with R8 they got for cheap and you've got the people that actually have skill out there with weapons that damage pretty heavily past armor that would be acquired with about the same cost... Think about it... R8 for 64m vs someone in TT99 gear... yeah.. gonna hurt. Even against Nirvana geared players before nice refines R8 hurts like hell. Being able to get gear like that for a tenth of what it used to cost is ****, complete total ****. It's too powerful for what it costs to get it.0 -
With lvl 15/16 geared players out there...tt99 gear shouldnt even be considered endgame gears anymore. That use to fly when r8 was the end of all endgame gears, but not in todays PWI.re0
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Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »Why doesn't PWI just give every starting character 200k rep and instead of having rep badge sales we can have Dragon Orb Ocean sales for 5 gold each! That way everyone is able to get R8 and +7, 8, 9, or 10 their gear for a fraction of the cost! I mean.. PWI has almost become a private server, why not finish the job?
Because that would be fair... and heaven forbid if PWE allows anything on this game to be fair. That's basically blasphemy to them.0 -
Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »Why would I need R8 +10 daggers, for instance? Beside's PvP, where it would be competitive versus another player, there is no point.
Hold on a sec... I'll go kill Kimsa with my 5aps +10 R8 daggers... *2 seconds later*, boss dead. Wow, I really needed this wep to kill this insanely tough boss.
You just made my day !!! You made me laugh so much this morning, thanks a lot !! b:laugh
It's the point i've been trying to prove to a lot of people that on a PvE server, we don't freaking need R9 and +10 on stuff. We don't "need" either to all be 5 Aps or Gtfo..
In PvP, ok..who has the bigest wallets win. But versus mobs ??? Someone tell me here or name me a dungeon where beeing R9, +10 or Aps is absolutelly required.
Some will say Nirvana, just because you want it done fast to have quick cash. Well if you are cash shoppers, the quickest way to make cash is still the credit card way, but some people use that...
Dont' fricking come bash on the heads on those who either never cash shopped or barely did saying "Hahaha ur gear sucks, I don't want you in my squad of True Opness" Some people here work a good part of the day, put cash in game to catch up time they "lost" to acquire gear and it's ok. But there's still a small part that runs around with stuff at +3, wearing lvl 95 and 97 molds instead of TT, gorenox vanities at my lvl, does that say i'm bad ?
I also have a lot of alts, made for almost possible situation. So yeah having concentrate on Puma , he would have had better stuff. Having powerleveled my noobs I would have saved time too.. I didn't, i don't care, I am here to have fun and take my time.Proud supporter of the new expansion. Sure it has it's share of bugs, like any games. But for a pure farmer/grinder, that's a whole lot of new mobs to go beat up b:chuckle0 -
ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »Broken for who? I think it fixed it for those that ONLY play this game for the PvP/TW asspect of the game...weekend warriors if ya will. PWI doesn't provide enough interesting PvE content to keep people interested in farming till their eyes bleed just for an hour or two of fun at most on the weekends.. Hell the original MMO wasnt quite that repetative in aquiring gears. The weapon maybe -ok- in regards to hitting hard, but up against nivana its still subpar. And the lvl 12 gears is **** to those lvled weapons. Sorry but r8 at the price isn't game breaking. All you get is some gear thats only good for a short run, maybe while you actually have to farm for a nirvana goal... It cant be recrafted, it can't be resold, it can't become better, just gets deleted.
Hi, you must be new here.
You think rank 8 and above gear, "fixes the game for people that play for PvP/TW"? Lol. I laughed a bit. What's the purpose in having R8 +10 gear in PvP, when this game doesn't offer enough pdef/mdef in the defenses to make it proportional to damage output?
Example:
R9 + 12 wep
R9 + 12 chest
Another R9 user comes by...
Woah, you just got one-shot bro! But, how? I thought... Oh, right.... It's whoever gets the first hit. *Sadface*
Welcome to PWI. Giving end-game gear in the cashshop doesn't "fix" ****. Actually, I know three names of private servers that offer end-game gear when you start and/or ask for donations and voting for end-game gear. I can PM them to you if you'd like bro?
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Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »Hi, you must be new here.
You think rank 8 and above gear, "fixes the game for people that play for PvP/TW"? Lol. I laughed a bit. What's the purpose in having R8 +10 gear in PvP, when this game doesn't offer enough pdef/mdef in the defenses to make it proportional to damage output?
Example:
R9 + 12 wep
R9 + 12 chest
Another R9 user comes by...
Woah, you just got one-shot bro! But, how? I thought... Oh, right.... It's whoever gets the first hit. *Sadface*
Welcome to PWI. Giving end-game gear in the cashshop doesn't "fix" ****. Actually, I know three names of private servers that offer end-game gear when you start and/or ask for donations and voting for end-game gear. I can PM them to you if you'd like bro?
b:bye
You just validated my point "bro" Rank-8 isnt game breaking enough to even compete with what you listed above, or even nirvana for that matter.
So with that said, would you attract bees to honey? or to lime juice?
In this sense, would you as a new player farm for decades for TTgears to be well...one shot by those same listed above people? or would you feel less compelled to toss out the idea of catching up if getting equivelent or slightly better than TT (and the margain is quite small) a little easier?
Ive been on one of those servers you are prob, thinking of, and quite honestly it was far more balanced in regards to PvP than this version will ever see. even if PWI handed out r-8 like generals blessing at 100--starts with V-re0 -
ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »You just validated my point "bro" Rank-8 isnt game breaking enough to even compete with what you listed above, or even nirvana for that matter.
So with that said, would you attract bees to honey? or to lime juice?
In this sense, would you as a new player farm for decades for TTgears to be well...one shot by those same listed above people? or would you feel less compelled to toss out the idea of catching up if getting equivelent or slightly better than TT (and the margain is quite small) a little easier?
Ive been on one of those servers you are prob, thinking of, and quite honestly it was far more balanced in regards to PvP than this version will ever see. even if PWI handed out r-8 like generals blessing at 100--starts with V-
If they seem more balanced it's probably due to the fact that there's no fish and EVERYONES is at full +12 with +20 Vit stones... the first and third of which aren't true on PWI and the second is extremely hard... Rank 8 (the weapon at least) is far superior to TT99. End of story, no arguing, that's just how it is. Before Rank 8/9 PvP had at least some balance left, now that we have them it's gone to hell.0 -
is far superior to TT99
TT99 can be recrafted later to over power a a r8..r8 is for level -100+- TT99 was developed for....well lvl 99 gear bracket.
TT99 is available FREE in game,(with some farming) a r8 weapon will cost you RL cash (or you can farmmerchant the funds)...in fact enough to pay for one months of cable entertainment for you to watch. So why shouldnt it hold a slightly more advantage of a 100% free product?re0 -
ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »TT99 can be recrafted later to over power a a r8..r8 is for level -100+- TT99 was developed for....well lvl 99 gear bracket.
TT99 is available FREE in game,(with some farming) a r8 weapon will cost you RL cash (or you can farmmerchant the funds)...in fact enough to pay for one months of cable entertainment for you to watch. So why shouldnt it hold a slightly more advantage of a 100% free product?
im sorry maybe i failed to see something but...isn't rank 8 100% free? Rank 8 WAS farmed BEFORE rank sales .-. ijs lol it was farmed same way tt99 would be farmed. Before the market hit its saturation point and tt90 armor was in higher demand, you could spam farm 2-3 for days on end and get your choice of tt99 gear if you so chose to or rank 8 gear. They're both still 100% free in terms of real life cash .-. see my point? xD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »TT99 can be recrafted later to over power a a r8..r8 is for level -100+- TT99 was developed for....well lvl 99 gear bracket.
TT99 is available FREE in game,(with some farming) a r8 weapon will cost you RL cash (or you can farm/merchant the funds)...in fact enough to pay for one months of cable entertainment for you to watch. So why shouldnt it hold a slightly more advantage of a 100% free product?
Just in case you missed it.
But since you care to split hairs, and derail the point.. We can just say, since as you say r8 is easily farmed. Then that makes it far more easier to obtain then TT? or harder?...or as of now equivelent? Then claiming rank 8 -SALES- are ruining the game, is false in terms of availabilty versus power.
If anything, since they are so adamant about having gear in the boutiqe, rank 8 is on par with what a game should cost. r9 on the other hand? it caters to only the elite rich... and as long as the elite rich can blow money on a virtual game, that the mass of players can't touch THERE is your unbalance. Selling gears such as r8, which is about as equivelent as farmed tt endgame gear for a hundred bucks? sounds resonable, and it still keeps people in gear balance.
But if the only way they seem to think they can make money is off gear progression, for those that refuse, or don't care to farm? well the only way to keep the game balance in regards to pvp, is atleast make it obtainable by even your average Mc Dondalds employee, and actually make it plausable over time to achieve in game.
But they wont, they seem to think they make enough money off that small minority of people that can spend few thousand each time they toss out a new level of gears.re0
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