Lunar VS TT Nirvana

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Pytharia - Lost City
Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
edited May 2011 in General Discussion
Just wanted to compare both G15 Lunar Nirvana and G15 TT Nirvana HA Legs.

At lower refines, Lunar dominates but it seems if you have a HA Belt at ~8+ TT starts to win. I've always thought Lunar was a little better in stats but is it true?

Basically, i'm just taking the whole phys res and *1.04 is that correct?
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    no, it would be res*1.16

    use pwcalc.com it automatically adds and multiplies res/hp/mp/atk
  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    no, it would be res*1.16

    use pwcalc.com it automatically adds and multiplies res/hp/mp/atk

    oh, so pwcalc already does the 4%?

    also why is it *1.16 for the legs only?
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Sorry I thought you meant comparing full Lunar NV to TT NV. My bad.
  • Kitamura - Lost City
    Kitamura - Lost City Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    HH-NV or TT(for nubs)-NV is used by poor ppl, CV-NV is better b:chuckle
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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
    HH-NV or TT(for nubs)-NV is used by poor ppl, CV-NV is better b:chuckle

    HH ? CV ? Oh, my bad, I thought you were playing PWI, like the rest of us , as you put it, nubs ...
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  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
    HH-NV or TT(for nubs)-NV is used by poor ppl, CV-NV is better b:chuckle

    Because, you know, using the translation we were given makes us stupid right?
  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »
    Because, you know, using the translation we were given makes us stupid right?

    IKR?
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    DeffyNature - Archosaur wrote: »
    HH ? CV ? Oh, my bad, I thought you were playing PWI, like the rest of us , as you put it, nubs ...

    ^ this x100 seriously annoying seeing people type HH and CV and GV and blah blah blah. get with the international terms or gtfo >.>
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  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    get with the international terms or gtfo >.>

    But please take the vana people with you as you go! b:cry
    Madness?

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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    ZAPATON - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But please take the vana people with you as you go! b:cry

    Happy Gerbil supports this proposal b:cute
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  • No_peas - Heavens Tear
    No_peas - Heavens Tear Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
    I was the first to hit 105 with my fail life so i am better than the rest of you b:chuckle

    /wrist
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
    HH-NV or TT(for nubs)-NV is used by poor ppl, CV-NV is better b:chuckle

    I use the illusion stone to go to farming instances, except for nirvana, i could never find CV or HH so i was forced to farm TT and Lunar, i think PWI should make these pro dungeons more accessable to everyone so i dont need to run around in nub armor.b:surrender
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
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    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
    HH-NV or TT(for nubs)-NV is used by poor ppl, CV-NV is better b:chuckle

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  • Vorgen - Sanctuary
    Vorgen - Sanctuary Posts: 276 Arc User
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    sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    do You Drive A Toyota Pius Too? You're Too Epic To Drive Just A Regular Prius.

    Smug Alert.


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  • OiOOio - Raging Tide
    OiOOio - Raging Tide Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    I guess I am noob then since I dont know what CV or GV means.

    I guess I can look it up but for all of us noobs that are afraid to ask or lazy to look it up you guys can post it here. b:thanks
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    the im-better-than-you-because-i-use-PW-MY-names attitude aside, lunar is better even assuming you are going to get all 4 armor pieces, the with the same ornaments, the percentages will only slightly skew in favor of TT/HH on elemental defense with +10 ornaments, while being much lower on P.def

    the bonus on TT/HH also does not get calculated by buffs since buffs multiply off base equipment values. the upside is that the bonuses from TT does not get reduced by debuffs

    TT/HH set with +10 m.def ornaments unbuffed
    http://pwcalc.com/8d526d5d20a68823

    Lunar/CV with +10 mdef ornaments unbuffed
    http://pwcalc.com/d0d92c8b018ffe06

    lunar is better
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  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Geez people, get over yourselfs.

    Whether a person wants to use HH or TT, or CV or Lunar it doesn't matter.

    At least Sasha had the balls to answer the question and not nit-pick about every little detail in a single post and try to derail a thread that was asking a question to benefit the player who was asking the question.
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  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Jesus O_O a page and a half of bum hurt people.

    I just wanted to know if pwcalc adds the 4% for you or not. Also I don't get why TT is for the poor since the difference in price isn't that substantial.

    Please stop QQ about how people say stuff and stay on topic.

    Also, i have TT99 Legs. I can afford the cannies to get G15 but do you recommend i scrap those legs and get Lunar legs? or is it just not worth it. I will be able to afford it but it will be annoying to lose the 25-30m i spent to make it. I was uneducated about lunar back then.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    1 piece wont make a huge difference, considering both that assuming you're going for interval your going to have 1 piece of nirvana armor, maybe 2 if your a BM or an interval barb, and assuming (from your avatar) that you're going to be making LA which sucks either way. you wont notice a big difference between 1 piece of lunar nirvana LA as opposed to 1 piece of TT nirvana LA. just keep what you have.
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  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Yes, my avatar is misleading, i'm a blademaster and i'm only going to have the legs, and helm but that's the same stats so we can ignore that.

    I really don't plan on getting a 2nd piece let alone 3rd or 4th. So i take it you're saying it's not worth scrapping my tt99 pants. Depending on how much i make in these few days i'll see what i'm going to do but if anybody else has any input however necessary it may be, please share your thoughts.

    Using la wrists/boots with ha belt/plate
  • Jenovadeath - Lost City
    Jenovadeath - Lost City Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Realy not sure which would be better in stats however refining armors only gives hp its only ornaments that get resistance boosts from refines if that helps at all :P
  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    mhm, that's why i mentioned i will have HA belt. Thanks though.
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Pytharia - Lost City wrote: »
    Yes, my avatar is misleading, i'm a blademaster and i'm only going to have the legs, and helm but that's the same stats so we can ignore that.

    I really don't plan on getting a 2nd piece let alone 3rd or 4th. So i take it you're saying it's not worth scrapping my tt99 pants. Depending on how much i make in these few days i'll see what i'm going to do but if anybody else has any input however necessary it may be, please share your thoughts.

    Using la wrists/boots with ha belt/plate

    Lunars far better for hybrid due to the builds low base phys def

    TT is cheap for you

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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Lunar NV gives more defenses, more hp and way looks better. You can also sell/trade Lunar NV when you wanna upgrade to something better, only that makes it 100 times more valuable.

    All those people who had full sets of auto bound TT-NV and than got R9 armor instead, dont even wanna think about all the coins wasted.

    People who pick Lunar NV can always get some of their money back when re-selling. PWI brings out new better gear almost once a year, so even NV will be pretty outdated eventually.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    Everyone complaining about nomenclature probably use the term FB. /fail

    FWIW, every time I see someone use TT, I think of Audi. What does a car have to do with PWI?

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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    If you have +10 ornaments, you get more out of it by using TT ones. Even if it's just 1 piece.
    http://pwcalc.com/3a9dae6279aa016d Full TT
    http://pwcalc.com/1573a09a7e78eb32 Full Lunar

    http://pwcalc.com/c595e7a51bc17051 Single TT
    http://pwcalc.com/3445d517327f484a Single Lunar

    The only reason you would want to get Lunar is to resell it to get r9, you probably shouldn't even bother with nirvana if that's the case.
    /quit.

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  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited May 2011
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    I don't know why you're comparing the magic top? i said i wanted HA Legs. And the won't be replaced, if i ever get R9 i won't sell the legs because i wouldn't use R9 for PvE ofcourse, only for TW/PvP situations.

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