Should Medals of Glory be returned to DQ Rewards? [Poll]

You should know..... everyone is starting to QQ about that sudden change. >_>

R9 becomes easy to obtain people QQ

R9 becomes hard to obtain like it should actually be, people QQ



Fail player base

i never even used the dam exploit, i was only 3 pieces ( the armor pieces) away from full r9 dam it, i wanna gonna have it on next sale, im not gonna pay god dam 15+mil ea medal to buy it from a player

lol there probably wont be a sale on these medals. as for the qq this game has the most qq about everything and anything possible. you name 1 thing and someone will qq about it. b:chuckle

No, they pretty much made DQ worthless again making it harder for f2p players to farm money (ie players they pretend they care about).

Ok, if the MEDAL OF GLORY exploit is known about. Then does this mean that because PWI knows about the "5 APS Exploit" and its overpowered-ness they can fix this as well?. b:laugh

Not to say "I told you so" but I'd say that is a 'fair' trade-off.

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Simply put if you look at the rest of that post, I haven't seen a single person post that agrees with this decision by the gms.

I have to be the one who is difficult, don't I? b:shocked

Fintan - Lost City wrote: »

Which would be a great way to mitigate the sudden inflation that would otherwise happen, yes. I've stated my feelings about rank sales and such before, but this is an instance where they may be justified.

Because it's trivial for a player to make this item which is meant to be non-tradeable into a tradeable item. I know of no quests to make the other items available into tradeable forms. Am I missing something?

I don't see them going through the pain of making items "permanently untradeable, period" over this. It's more likely they'll show up in the Event Boutique soonish.

Speaking of adding them to the Event Boutique, it's been stated a number of times that they'll be overhauling it soon. So, if they were to just move them in there tonight, they'd have even MORE people QQing because nothing else got changed in it...

They can't win this one, but they handled it as gracefully as they could (so far) without enabling people to flood the market with them. We'll see what the sale is, and for once I hope it's a rank sale.

(something's lost without seeing the quote i'm replying to, alas...)

Fintan - Lost City wrote: »

(For those not familiar with the proper way to handle something being exploited, they did it the correct way: mitigate then disclose. If your house's front door had a broken lock, would you put a big sign up that the lock's busted and the locksmith is coming in the morning and take off to see a movie?)

_Aubree__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

DQ points are traded by selling dq, therefore medals would have been tradable through dq points. Thats how it doesn't make sense. Exploit or not it, didn't make a difference. They are prohibiting us from getting medals at all now. None of this had to do with fixing any exploit.

http://pwi.perfectworld.com/dqrewards wrote:

Note: All items listed above, if sent, will be bound to your character. They cannot be traded to other players or dropped.

Tell me how finding a way around the item being bound isn't an exploit, again? That text has been there; it wasn't just added today.

A large percent of those QQing don't even care how easy or hard it is to get rank 9.

They are QQing because now its back to Nirvana, TT, and catshopping to get coin instead of being able to maket dq items that they earned playing the game the way they want i.e. questing, grinding, generally helping other people to people that can't be bothered to stop farming instances or are a perma catshop to go out and earn dq items themselves.

Perhaps its not as easily profitable as spamming aps to sell nirv mats to shops, but the other 8 classes besides sin/bm like to feel useful on occasion.

If they don't put the medal back (I don't care about getting rank 9 currently on any of my toons because I don't pvp anyways) then I hope they at least add something that people would actually want about as much. Like a special mount or something that is only obtainable that way.

Like with the sage/demon tiger mount/pets and celestial insignias. Which is another market they killed off when they gave everyone free fash and offered the mounts to heavy cashshoppers for free with zen purchase.

That is the other reason people are QQing. Everyone knows that as long as dq items are still tradable that the reason they claim to have removed medals is complete BS. It only cuts out people that don't want to buy them from the boutique pure and simple. Such transparency in their motive being presented as something that needed to be done to "fix" the economy like no one will call you on it just turned otherwise indifferent people against you.

Their problem was the DQ Rewards Code was all them, but the gaming code is all Chine. They are not allowed to edit the chinese code that is given to them unless they get permission. For whatever the reason was, the DQ Medals of Glory were stored in there database as the same exact item as the ones you bought from the cashshop awhile ago. When stacking the game code saw them as the same thing (even though they originally had different attributes of being tradeable). So when they stacked it simply counted them up and changed them to tradeable.

To fix this they will have to get the chinese devs to redo some of the database and other things to stop the people glitching.

AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It only cuts out people that don't want to buy them from the boutique pure and simple.

show me where they are in the boutique. r9 is damn near impossible to get now. it should have always been like this, but as stated some of us already have r9.

_Aubree__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

DQ points are traded by selling dq, therefore medals would have been tradable through dq points. Thats how it doesn't make sense. Exploit or not it, didn't make a difference. They are prohibiting us from getting medals at all now. None of this had to do with fixing any exploit.

100% correct.
Medals = DQ pts = DQ items which are tradable.
It's silly to close down the DQ medals.

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well, without medals of glory, DQs are pretty much back to their normal price.

Unless you think people would buy masses of DQs just to get the event card for cheaper Tienkangs/Tishas and I don't see that happening.

So that means that grinding is pretty much back to being worthless.

Yes and hence not ADDING FEATURE to the game. Just blunting the handle of the axe.

What we want to do is ADD FEATURES to the existing thing.
We want players to STILL SELL DQ and have that option so it means we need to expand what the website sells. Maybe we could sell DQ Gold/Silver and Browns?. Although some of the molds from that are rare it would still take 'a while' to achieve enough Gold/Silver/Bronze Dragon orders to get the item. But then we'd **** with the DQ quest system. Still it is adding to the player's experience.

I'd like to show you ANOTHER good example of great design practice. In TF2 back in 2009 a guy designed an 'idling program' to get the weapon/hat drops in/from TF2 this was post humourously fixed by the Team Fortress 2 team.

In some ways TF2 is also a Free-to-play MMORPG but in other ways not really. It also has a 'CASH SHOP' but the difference between here and there is that. The cash shop serves as no 'advantage' to players. The CS in TF2 only gives you the items you can already craft in TF2 or get from just playing in the game.

The Cheater's Lament is a headwear item available to all classes. It appears as a glowing, golden halo attached to the wearer's head by two wires. It was awarded on the 2nd of September 2009 to all players who had not used external idling programs. As such, it is not obtainable through the regular item drop system nor acquired through crafting.

http://www.tf2wiki.net/wiki/Cheater%27s_lament

Just this is the sort of ironic thing I'd like to see here. But guess not, cause then I'd be asking to much.

Perfect Stone
Used for making Weapon Charms, repairing Shattered Gear, and replenishing your Aerogear's Acceleration or your Genie's Stamina

Hardly anyone uses weapon charms to they'd only use them for Runecrafting anyway, which some people thought in earlier posts was under powered. They don't give you 'enough' Perfect Stones from this purchase they only give you 1 so there isn't much point there and you might as well just get in an Frost City party cause the chances are usually better from the "FC Chest anyway" of getting 100 Perfect Stones.

Once again you only get 1 PERFECT STONE. So its hardly positive.



Mysterious Chip
Collect to trade special items at Mysterious Merchant's

Well they have enough token sales/rank sales to not worry about this option. 300 or so is great in the early stages of the game if you want to get a mold from the Mysterious Merchant but at ONE CHIP per 100 DQ you might as well buy that mold and then when you're done with it past it on to someone else for coin.

Once again you only get 1 MYSTERIOUS CHIP. So its hardly worth it.


Do-all Card
Can be used to trade for Robber Card and Bully Card in Cube of Fate

Hopefully this will encourage people to go into the Cube of Fate. -- Slightly positive. You can use them in the Cube Of Fate and eventually maybe harvest your level 99 skill books and maybe enough Old Book Pages for the other set of books. Still it costs a fair bit (try 150k+ per room to get the *actual* rooms beyond Room 50 so its sort of a questionable item

Random Pigment
Take it to a seamstress to dye your clothes a random color

Really only useful -- If you like fashion and its easier to get the colour you'd want anyway.

Makeover Scroll
Item for modifying a character's appearance

If you want to change your look every 5 seconds, have a ingame boyfriend/girlfriend whatever or people keep saying your character is ugly

Wraith Officer's Badge
Take this to the Commander-in-Chief to gain 25 Reputation

The only positive thing about this thing is that you can get reputation when the reputation sales aren't on.

Cerberus Pup Egg
Hatch at a Pet Manager


Another Pet -- at the con of taking up more space 'in your pet bag' just to look good. So only good for people who actually want to collect pets.


Pillar Pet Egg
Hatch at a Pet Manager


Same as the Cerberus Pup Egg... to look 'different'


Demon/Sage Event Card
Redeemable for 50 Event Points from the PW Boutique Agent


Slightly only good if you want the green or silver charms anyway, most people would buy the platinum charms, they tend to last longer. I suppose its good for Tisha Stones and the like unless you want a mount you can't "trade" -- Oh but wait I wonder if they fixed that same problem PWI did with the medals with the 'ground mounts' they have in the cash shop. b:laugh


Makes you wonder -- Hmm. If I've missed anything let me know.