Barbs in FCC = liars?

lol nice hating on barbs there >.<

repair bills are not as much as everyone makes it out to be, but you have to consider the lvl range of the squad. how fast mobs die, who tank bosses and so forth.

there is no fixed number, and honestly I never really pay attention cause asking for repair bills or free wine or whatever is the furthest thing from my mind.

I just helped a quilt mate on a fast run and my bill was 90k but that was including delta w2 and maybe bhd.

"2 Demon Assassin (DD/healer)"

There's your reason why your repairs were so low. I'm guessing either one of those assassins had most of the aggro and was taking most of the hits on the bosses. And at the mobs the aggro was probably going towards the other BM if he HF'd first. So basically you had no aggro most of the time, you just pulled the mobs. Pulling the mobs only gets you hit like 5 times in total if you're slow.

Im not paying barbs fc repairs fee and i never will... this is just greedy.How about us clerics start askin for mana charms fee ,wich in most cases is alot more than 100k per run.These barbs have to learn to deal with their class cons.

My barb has had repairs around 100k when the only one in the party who could tank anything was him so that amount is indeed accurate depending on the party. When my barb isn't the one doing all the tanking due to a herc veno his repairs are considerably less.

Even if they have to tank everything, the barb shouldn't be asking for handouts. Repair costs are part of the class and they have to be able to deal with them on their own. I say this as someone with a level 85 barbarian that has tanked pretty much everything that can be tanked upto his level range.

ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »

So I get in the squad.
The squad contained:

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2 Demon Assassin (DD/healer)
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1 Sage Veno (tank/debuffs)

I don't understand. Please explain.

The lower levels will always be 50k to 60ks (7x~9x)

Most people start FCC/FC at level 79 (some people start a bit lower but that takes more charms and care) and if you give your 7x gear a bit of TLC (dragon orbs +2 or +3 / normal +ing of your equipment) you can ride it through all the way to 90.

I've still got my armor from 7x in my crate and I used that all the way to 90 when I could afford the Mountain Crasher set. After that the repairs really changed.

In the upper levels the repair is insignificant
- If you do up to heads (Oceania) its about 20k ~ 30k
- If you do the whole run its between 40!~60k

In the end it all levels out.

sorry to hear that you ran into selfish barbs b:cry

ehm barbs repair fee isent that big of a deal, isent that much honestly

wtf is up barbs demanding pay to run instances, I mean come on you don't see clerics asking squad for money for all the mana pots they need. And with tokens prices so high herbs have gotten kinda expensive. I dont think a squad should pay a barbs repair bill ever, because that's just apart of the class. They get bad repairs bill, but what makes it for it is that they can get into a lot of instances since they'll be wanted in squads.

pshh barbs demanding pay, get over it or you'll just be replaced by interval sins and bms lol.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Any barb asking for a handout should be kicked from the squad... they're easily replaced in every instance but Delta and Warsong. A BM can tank/pull FC if they have half a brain, hell I sat there and FC'd like.. 5 times in a day, came out of it with a 140 or 160k repair bill... after FCing ALL day... Barbs need to shut the **** up with this "OMGZ I NEEDZ MONEH 2 REPAIR" bull****

Posts like this don't really help either.

Congrats on having a 140k repair bill. Some barbs in those 5 runs would wind up with over a 500k repair bill, which is a good chunk of the 5 hypers that everyone else would have free to spend.

Appreciation of what a barb goes through in costs is certainly in order.

That being said, barbs who play their class know what they are in for by the time they get to do FF runs. Demanding or asking for free wine, this entitlement ****, is nonsense. Never invite a barb who demands ****.

Although, a good chunk of people, from every class, when wanting to save the cost of, say, a wine split, will wait around for a "free wine" BH squad. Nothing wrong with this. It's demanding someone else to pay for you that is rude and something that doesn't belong in a squad.

Some squads also pay barbs sometimes up to like 5 hypers. If I was on an alt, not busy, and I saw an offer of 5 hypers for a FF, I'd switch to my barb in an instant. Unfortunately money is an incentive, but again, should be a requisite. Also, this kind of rhetoric from the poster I quoted is just as unnecessary.

(On a side note, it was hilarious about a month ago when I did a BH59 on my psychic, there was a barb in the squad. We started clearing with the barb in the instance before the last person was inside, we asked for buffs.. the barb refused to buff, then also would run in on a group of mobs and ream a single one. Someone asked him nicely, he refused until the last person was in, so as to save using an mp pot. Of course, his fail aggro skills nearly got the unbuffed cleric killed too. I asked nicely again, he refused. Then the cleric asked nicely and he asked the cleric if he should go back to elementary school to count how many people are inside. That's when I asked for lead booted him, inviting my sin that I was logged in on my laptop to make the run last maybe 10 mins instead of 30+. People who think their buffs or presence are that precious deserve what's coming to them. Those who do the runs and get rewards for being needed, good for them.)

AuroraLucia - Archosaur wrote: »

Clerics don't demand money (usually) because, lets be honest, they don't have many costs. Even before I reached 75, I would only use about 30-50 pots in TT depending on how long I had to hold BB up. When, for example, in 1-2 when I would only BB on Drum because someone couldn't survive Soulbanisher, I would use about 20 pots the entire run.

Now, I only ever use MP food when I am doing BB. When I am healing with IH or with my IH/Wellspring macro, I never use pots. FC is where I use the most foods, and I use only about 10-15. The only time now when that changes is when either I am doing most of the tanking (BH39), or when I end up accidentally tanking in BB on Drummer because somehow there was a squad wipe before he even started his AoE (I don't know how that happened still).

I think I spend more on my Assassin in instances now for repairs and pots than I do for my Cleric.

run some nirvana back to back and trust me you'll use a good amount of herb yuanxiao lol

actual truth barbs lie about there damage repairs. Some of them hardly repair at all. I 0wn a 101 bm and a 88 Barb theres no difference.

101 bm + 101 bm + 101 sin = 30 mins run 3 man squad

The highest repairs you can achive are because the squad is slow. But nothing that matches 100k in a fcc run. There just BSing. The only reason you would pay a barb is because barbs are becoming rare.

pretty much what Janus said tbh...

And besides of you have a good aoe squad, above 90 it doesn't -really- matter who pulls.

Even I with my AA gear AND my husband have done several pulls in FCC, granted it took us a few tries to get the hang of it.

but i dont even have to use alpha male ( i dont even HAVE it ) in order to make the mobs go down.

above 90 your collected damage should well and surely be enough to make a pull of mobs go down in a sigh and ****.

either that or the squad i always run with is consistant of OP clerics, bm's, veno's and wizzies.

MeatBallzz - Sanctuary wrote: »

The highest repairs you can achive are because the squad is slow. But nothing that matches 100k in a fcc run. There just BSing. The only reason you would pay a barb is because barbs are becoming rare.

7x FC = quite possible to have 100k repairs, if you take charms into account, the raw 100k repairs would mean wiping more than once.

Ps I need to start accepting charms for full deltas =/.