should activate skills for barbs outside of pvp
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a few interesting things in here.
1. yes an archer with a bow and only a bow can kill a high hp barb *recalls wizzeled killing BigP one of the top and highest hp barbs on our server* around 30-33k hp then, and that was well before r8/r9/nirvana became common. it was with a heaven shatter
2. death by bramble is legimitate. if ur dumb enough to not pop out a bow on a veno with bramble then ur just pathetic. (that is if bramble worked in open pk).
3. 10 seconds of bramble . . . . . sin sparks > barb roars > sin restealths. if you hit to fast to realize ur being reflected or a reflect skill was used and you die to it. that's ur own damn fault for using aps and not being able to react to something in time.
4. any sin that can't 1 shot or kill a caster in 1-3 seconds is dead anyway so long as the caster is 1/2 way decent *points at expell when defences aren't on . . . 9 seocond can't attack on sin whiel the caster can barrage spells. or occult ice on a bm/barb/sin ect.
5. not all barbs at 100+ are 18k+ hp lol. I've run into quite a few under that, and yes 0 channel apoth does work on archers lighting imo. so does WoG > ironguard.
6. only being on QQ threads and such on sins is pretty pathetic imo. fishy's are naturally op and everybody knows it. because 1 or 2 skills can help defend against it if the sin isn't smart then it shouldn't be used. is the same mentality of a sin not being able to go over 2.0 aps in pk or did you not think of that little aspect.
i feel thiers some others i can think of but i'm not gonna scroll back jsut to find them
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It should also be reminded to ppl such as this sin, lazy to scroll back for name, that threads such as this, are not meant for QQs ad complains about what aspects of the others statements you dislike....QQmoar b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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WinterSelene - Dreamweaver wrote: »It should also be reminded to ppl such as this sin, lazy to scroll back for name, that threads such as this, are not meant for QQs ad complains about what aspects of the others statements you dislike....QQmoar b:pleased
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NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »so your telling me 1 hitting myself for 9.5k on a venos Bramble isnt OP?
you came to the right conclusion seeming as every thread iv posted in is about Sin QQ or Aps. everyone wants sins to be nurfed because they cba to go buy stealth pots to see a sin in stealth mode and kill it before it kills them. or they want aps nurfed because they cba to go farm aps themselfs.
iv came to a conclusion about you, just another barb butthurt whos now useless endgame and are only good for pulling cata`s so you have came on to the forums to QQ like everyone else.
As someone who has a 101 barb and a 91 sin, I believe I'm qualified to say this.
Get Over Yourself.
Honestly. You're making a fool of yourself.
Think of this forum as being brambled, and your keyboard as your daggers. Every time you type something, you do more damage to yourself than *anyone* else.
IJS0 -
NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »i vote No.
1 hitting myself on bramble is the reason why
I vote YES for 5 APS look-at-me self killing hilarity. b:laugh
Vote YES on Proposition '5 APS self reflection suicide.'
Whatz wrong boyeezzz? Invested -too much- money in your APS gearz, it could be funny. To watch you /AttackSelfKill yourselves.
Time won't wake/make you wiser, but it will definitely wound you.
b i t . l y /
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Are you kind of seeing what I'm saying. b:bye0 -
Kinjeto - Raging Tide wrote: »I vote YES for 5 APS look-at-me self killing hilarity. b:laugh
Vote YES on Proposition '5 APS self reflection suicide.'
Whatz wrong boyeezzz? Invested -too much- money in your APS gearz, it could be funny. To watch you /AttackSelfKill yourselves.
ikr
id like to see bramble work, and see HA venos tank aps sins, and let them kill thereself
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Skippy - Dreamweaver wrote: »ikr
id like to see bramble work, and see HA venos tank aps sins, and let them kill thereself
so ffing hillarious
+1.
Now looking for that demon roar book-->Trolling Sid since So Hot
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i find it funny when ever you guys start QQing about sins i QQ back and you lot start QQing even more. annoying aint it? tip for ya dont QQ about sins nothings gonna be done to them, yes there OP too late to change it now. you lot find something else to QQ about for a change and il ****. all this anti sins **** on here is getting really boring b:bye b:cute0
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NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »i find it funny when ever you guys start QQing about sins i QQ back and you lot start QQing even more. annoying aint it? tip for ya dont QQ about sins nothings gonna be done to them, yes there OP too late to change it now. you lot find something else to QQ about for a change and il ****. all this anti sins **** on here is getting really boring b:bye b:cute
Dude...as ImNotFeelnIt said...you are actually reflecting words to yourself ..your annoying..and maybe not a old player of this game..i bet you would be pissed if you'd be a barb, non casher...to see you can't actually do something about a sin with +10/+12 5 aps..it isnt caled QQ..this thread has been made to sort of ask for a skill to be available in pvp..whats all your bs about?..its a freakin skill..if you dont want freakin reflect..i could say the same about your stealth..but you'd proly start QQ..that nooo thats your skill..fine.a veno's skill si reflect..i got no buff as veno , besides summer sprint to use in pk..so..that being my only buff ..yea..hell yea i want that in pk..and im talking as a pker!..not a person with 80 something kills..im not stupid, nor **** and i play my class good enough..on top of it..i play sin too..i also know sin skills and how to use them..skills are OP..so stop freakin QQin..be proud your OP and allow other classes to brag about thir own skills..get freakin over it.![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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WinterSelene - Dreamweaver wrote: »Dude...as ImNotFeelnIt said...you are actually reflecting words to yourself ..your annoying..and maybe not a old player of this game..i bet you would be pissed if you'd be a barb, non casher...to see you can't actually do something about a sin with +10/+12 5 aps..it isnt caled QQ..this thread has been made to sort of ask for a skill to be available in pvp..whats all your bs about?..its a freakin skill..if you dont want freakin reflect..i could say the same about your stealth..but you'd proly start QQ..that nooo thats your skill..fine.a veno's skill si reflect..i got no buff as veno , besides summer sprint to use in pk..so..that being my only buff ..yea..hell yea i want that in pk..and im talking as a pker!..not a person with 80 something kills..im not stupid, nor **** and i play my class good enough..on top of it..i play sin too..i also know sin skills and how to use them..skills are OP..so stop freakin QQin..be proud your OP and allow other classes to brag about thir own skills..get freakin over it.!
1. join date: 01/01/09 yeah im pretty old player
2. all this anti sin **** on the forums is more annoying, you stop repeating QQ aps QQ sins and il **** as iv already said.
3. reflect is the most OP skill on the game, even bms and barbs can 1 hit themself on it. which is why i voted no for it.
4. go get 90 kills in 2 days of pking against 95+ while being afk most the time then come back and tell me your a pker.
5. i really think you missed it again so ima put it in big bold letters to make sure you dont miss it STOP WITH THIS ANTI APS AND SIN **** AND IL STOP QQING IN YOUR THREADS. ITS REALLY ANNOYING ISNT IT YET ALL IM DOING TO YOU IS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 2 MONTHS. IF YOU STOP THEN IL STOP. GOT IT?
and i know for a fact people wont stop and will carry on QQing so in that case
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think ima post this now in every single QQ thread just to **** more people off b:bye0 -
Skippy - Dreamweaver wrote: »ikr
id like to see bramble work, and see HA venos tank aps sins, and let them kill thereself
so ffing hillarious
That's why I hate HA venos in TW. Popping out of stealth and dealing 5x more damage to myself than the Veno hurts.0 -
I agree with this and I've been saying so for some time. I'm certainly glad that it works in TW though. It truly is a shame that they made a skill that doesn't work in PK (and I say this even though I'm on a PvE server, because yes.. some of us do actually PK from time to time here).magyarwarlord wrote: »with all the new updates and the new classes beign so mutch more powerful than the old gms should active Bramble for veno's and Demon Roar for barbs in pvp outside of instances. Barbs really cannot do dammage to the new classes or survive sins non stop stuns ROAR or bramble would better our survival abilitys on this I am asking that these skills be activated for PVPNoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »this just shows how OP bramble is and how squishy sins areYulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »L2S (learn to spell)....
Bramble DOES work in PVP, just not in PK mode, which is like (1/3 of the PVP aspect of the game?)....
Barbs cannot do damage? You haven't leveled bestial onslaught / devour penatrate / mighty swing? L2P (learn to play)
Wow, one buff not working... In PK mode, wow.... so unfair.
LOL! b:laugh
Actually all my own skills are maxed and many are demon (including demon onslaught). But against eg a sin - critting for 1 damage is just sad. I've killed my fair share of sins, but admittedly they were lesser geared or else made a bad judgement call such as running away when they undoubtedly would have won if they had just attacked.
Bramble isn't exactly "OP" because it is easily avoidable by anyone with half a brain. You see bramble get cast, you can always stop attacking. If you choose to keep attacking when bramble is on, perhaps you *should* loose the fight. Look at it more as a deterrent type skill that will either A) kill you if you keep attacking
buy the barb/veno some time for charm / skill cooldown (which is what sin's use stealth for). Pretty fair I would say. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Retired..0 -
well i got demon roar and its beastelly if its the only skill we have to protect us against an entire server if aps its worth it for us to have it in pk mode. Its awsome in tw when i can have 5 5 aps kill themselves when im taking downthere crystal in tw.
Skippy and I both have all of our skills and if your going to spend this kind of coin for skills you shoudl be able to use them Right. Just like stealth for a sin its another unfair aspect of the game so why not have Roar or bramble to ballance that aspect out.0 -
NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »1. join date: 01/01/09 yeah im pretty old player
2. all this anti sin **** on the forums is more annoying, you stop repeating QQ aps QQ sins and il **** as iv already said.
3. reflect is the most OP skill on the game, even bms and barbs can 1 hit themself on it. which is why i voted no for it.
4. go get 90 kills in 2 days of pking against 95+ while being afk most the time then come back and tell me your a pker.
5. i really think you missed it again so ima put it in big bold letters to make sure you dont miss it STOP WITH THIS ANTI APS AND SIN **** AND IL STOP QQING IN YOUR THREADS. ITS REALLY ANNOYING ISNT IT YET ALL IM DOING TO YOU IS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 2 MONTHS. IF YOU STOP THEN IL STOP. GOT IT?
1. Means you know everything?
2. QQ, QQQ, QQQQ, QQQQQ, thanks
3. If you are actually dumb enough to kill yourself on reflect... Just wow.
4. Get 100+ kills in 1 TW as a barb, then come back to tell me your PKer?
5. We dont negotiate with terrorists, thanks.
Ps. Anybody on my dead server wanna sell me demon roar book? =(Trolling Sid since So Hot0 -
NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »1. join date: 01/01/09 yeah im pretty old player
2. all this anti sin **** on the forums is more annoying, you stop repeating QQ aps QQ sins and il **** as iv already said.
3. reflect is the most OP skill on the game, even bms and barbs can 1 hit themself on it. which is why i voted no for it.
4. go get 90 kills in 2 days of pking against 95+ while being afk most the time then come back and tell me your a pker.
5. i really think you missed it again so ima put it in big bold letters to make sure you dont miss it STOP WITH THIS ANTI APS AND SIN **** AND IL STOP QQING IN YOUR THREADS. ITS REALLY ANNOYING ISNT IT YET ALL IM DOING TO YOU IS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 2 MONTHS. IF YOU STOP THEN IL STOP. GOT IT?
Try this for a comparison.
You are driving a Ferrari. Your car is faster than 99% of the cars on the road, and you can beat almost any car that challenges you. Your life is good.
Occasionally, as you tear through city streets at 120 mph, someone else driving a truck tries to cross the road in front of you, and you smash your car to bits as you slam into them.
Now you're crying because slower people are allowed on *your* roads, ruining you ability to drive 120 MPH on city streets.
When people point this out to you, you scream and point that they complain too much, and should just get off the &%$# road.
You're a Twit.
IJS
\also a 'sin
\\idiots like you are the reason 'sins get a bad rap0 -
ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear wrote: »Try this for a comparison.
You are driving a Ferrari. Your car is faster than 99% of the cars on the road, and you can beat almost any car that challenges you. Your life is good.
Occasionally, as you tear through city streets at 120 mph, someone else driving a truck tries to cross the road in front of you, and you smash your car to bits as you slam into them.
Now you're crying because slower people are allowed on *your* roads, ruining you ability to drive 120 MPH on city streets.
When people point this out to you, you scream and point that they complain too much, and should just get off the &%$# road.
You're a Twit.
IJS
\also a 'sin
\\idiots like you are the reason 'sins get a bad rap
please note you just said the ferrari crashed because a slower truck pull out in front of it..
wasnt the ferrari drivers fault it was the slow *** truck driver who pulled out in front of him IJS
proven fact slow drivers cause most accidents b:bye0 -
its pretty simple, you see me roar?
just stun me,,, or tankleing slash, and run away till the bramble effect of demon roar is off,
and erm,, on venos or casters bramble isent that OP, i mean LA vs AA with the reflect you should get less damage back then you dash out on you opponent.
sins have so manny skills in there aray, if you would onely rely on 5.00 pew pew and kill yourself on something as simple as bramble, then your just an ffing nub in my oppinion0 -
Because coming out of stealth and one-shotting somebody who had no chance to retaliate at all, is so not OP. Nor is hitting the force stealth button to escape decimation (and gain a spark) should said surprise attack fail.
Not at all.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Well..sorry for this guy..but dumb ppl remain dumb..ad o..i got over 1.6k of my pk kills,i PK only..w.o stealth/spark macrob:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The reasons why veno bramble does not work in open PK are obvious & really shouldn't be rehashed again (yes, again fools; do a forum search to see how many other threads already exist regarding this >.>). However, allowing the short-term effects of bramble to work (eg, demon roar or veno's 2 spark bramble hood) might be cool, would certainly make things a bit more interesting. As it stands, barbs & venos are pretty damn easy to beat, save for the really high hp ones.
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The reason bramble isn't allowed in open PvP is because everyone would get the buff and sins would have a beyond small chance to then kill anyone. b:surrender
If they changed it to a self-buff or a very small duration it can be manageable but otherwise it would pretty much kill any PvP play from sins.BladedZero - Sanctuary
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And that's a bad thing, lol?Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »The reason bramble isn't allowed in open PvP is because everyone would get the buff and sins would have a beyond small chance to then kill anyone. b:surrender
If they changed it to a self-buff or a very small duration it can be manageable but otherwise it would pretty much kill any PvP play from sins.●Barb - The "natural" leader. Cool and collected, slow to anger, and typically jovial. Swift to act when friends' lives are in danger, and prepared to lay down his life if the situation calls for it.
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I would support bringing bramble into PvP but at least the veno's long acting one would need the reflect % tuned down a bit, maybe 40% or so.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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normal bramble aint reflecting too much dmg tbh...proly like 200 dmg...demon version reflects more...and related to venos..theres a little detail everyone forgets...the pet..aka nix in most of cases...i doubt any mlee would be actually able to kill my nix..if reflect would work in pk..cause i got bramble skill for my nix..whatever..this thread has been abused enough
b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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