should activate skills for barbs outside of pvp

magyarwarlord
magyarwarlord Posts: 46 Arc User
edited February 2011 in General Discussion
with all the new updates and the new classes beign so mutch more powerful than the old gms should active Bramble for veno's and Demon Roar for barbs in pvp outside of instances. Barbs really cannot do dammage to the new classes or survive sins non stop stuns ROAR or bramble would better our survival abilitys on this I am asking that these skills be activated for PVP
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  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Find me demon roar skillbook and I`m in! Damn I`d love the sight of R9 sins dropping themselves on it, lol.

    Ps. The sage addon on roar works in PvP, demon doesnt, so unfair, QQ.
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  • Doqui - Raging Tide
    Doqui - Raging Tide Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i vote yes, it is **** that bramble or roar doesn't work b:bye
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  • NoXide_ - Heavens Tear
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i vote No.

    1 hitting myself on bramble is the reason why
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    magyarwarlord wrote: »
    with all the new updates and the new classes beign so mutch more powerful than the old gms should active Bramble for veno's and Demon Roar for barbs in pvp outside of instances. Barbs really cannot do dammage to the new classes or survive sins non stop stuns ROAR or bramble would better our survival abilitys on this I am asking that these skills be activated for PVP

    L2S (learn to spell)....
    Bramble DOES work in PVP, just not in PK mode, which is like (1/3 of the PVP aspect of the game?)....
    Barbs cannot do damage? You haven't leveled bestial onslaught / devour penatrate / mighty swing? L2P (learn to play)
    Wow, one buff not working... In PK mode, wow.... so unfair.
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i vote No.

    1 hitting myself on bramble is the reason why

    LOL! b:laugh
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • Doqui - Raging Tide
    Doqui - Raging Tide Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    if you vote no, i will vote yes on no stealth, becouse getting tripple sparked occult ice's from stealth is just as ****
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  • NoXide_ - Heavens Tear
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Doqui - Raging Tide wrote: »
    if you vote no, i will vote yes on no stealth, becouse getting tripple sparked occult ice's from stealth is just as ****

    well grats you got your no stealth seeming as triple spark knocks us out of it.

    and now thank you for voting no

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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i vote No.

    1 hitting myself on bramble is the reason why
    its probably a great idea just because of that lol
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  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    wish it worked, 1 click of a button to see that stupid fish kill itself,

    used the demon roar on the weekly tourny, 5.00 +12 sin killed himself on me lol

    and several others fell for it, b:laugh
  • NoXide_ - Heavens Tear
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Skippy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    wish it worked, 1 click of a button to see that stupid fish kill itself,

    used the demon roar on the weekly tourny, 5.00 +12 sin killed himself on me lol

    and several others fell for it, b:laugh

    this just shows how OP bramble is and how squishy sins are
  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i vote No.

    1 hitting myself on bramble is the reason why

    what are people that clueless to the fact that it does not deflect range... go get a bow. You would think an assassin would be able to see that and appear with a bow instead.
  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    this just shows how OP bramble is and how squishy sins are

    just do what you would normally do, force stealth when you see a demon roar proc.

    erm,, yeaaaa veno bramble lasts wut? 10 minutes?

    demon roar 10 seconds, so i dont see the OPness in the barb version

    i just crack myself up seeing the OP sin kill itself on me
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    this just shows how OP bramble is and how squishy sins are

    or it just shows how dumb people are for falling for it and/or how OP they are if there able to kill them self to fast for there own good, amiright?
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  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    if they kill themselves it is their own fault for running around with a +12 weapon and +4 armor like most of them do and like I said it is their choice when to unstealth in most cases. Bramble deflect does not kill a barb or BM so I would think it fair game if a sin is lame enough to run up and do that when they have the first move in most cases.
  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
    or it just shows how dumb people are for falling for it and/or how OP they are if there able to kill them self to fast for there own good, amiright?

    ^ so treu
  • NoXide_ - Heavens Tear
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    what are people that clueless to the fact that it does not deflect range... go get a bow. You would think an assassin would be able to see that and appear with a bow instead.

    and then think of the mass QQ about sins using +10 lunar bows and killing people from 20ms away. all your gonna be hearing then is 'sins should stick to daggers and not bows, make bows archers only QQmoar '
    Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
    or it just shows how dumb people are for falling for it and/or how OP they are if there able to kill them self to fast for there own good, amiright?

    go around and ask people on your server if they know what barb demon roar does. most the people i see who kill themself on it didnt even know what it does. archers can also kill themself on deflect so does that make them op? so no your not right
  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    QQ,Knockback arrow only works in PvE.QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ.

    The day sins use bow,I would petition for not being allowed to change weapons while in combat,and snipe Sins sniping other people.
  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    sorry to say so noxide,

    i saw you reply on manny threads, and i pretty much came to the conclusion, that your always against something that could hurt your presious fishy

    call it OP what you want, i dont need bramble to fend off sins

    lets make this a sin QQ threath again, he loves those
  • NoXide_ - Heavens Tear
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Skippy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sorry to say so noxide,

    i saw you reply on manny threads, and i pretty much came to the conclusion, that your always against something that could hurt your presious fishy

    call it OP what you want, i dont need bramble to fend off sins

    lets make this a sin QQ threath again, he loves those

    so your telling me 1 hitting myself for 9.5k on a venos Bramble isnt OP?

    you came to the right conclusion seeming as every thread iv posted in is about Sin QQ or Aps. everyone wants sins to be nurfed because they cba to go buy stealth pots to see a sin in stealth mode and kill it before it kills them. or they want aps nurfed because they cba to go farm aps themselfs.

    iv came to a conclusion about you, just another barb butthurt whos now useless endgame and are only good for pulling cata`s so you have came on to the forums to QQ like everyone else.
  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    and then think of the mass QQ about sins using +10 lunar bows and killing people from 20ms away. all your gonna be hearing then is 'sins should stick to daggers and not bows, make bows archers only QQmoar '



    go around and ask people on your server if they know what barb demon roar does. most the people i see who kill themself on it didnt even know what it does. archers can also kill themself on deflect so does that make them op? so no your not right

    The best part about this game is the build is your option... if you hit a veno like that and they did refine their armor to take the hit they will just simply hit bramble hood. Now lets say you do go back into stealth there is a high chance another target is near you to pull you out of stealth unless the combat is in the air. The person isn't going to stick around in the air for you to have a second attempt.

    There are damage reduction skills on every class so in this scenario there is a reaction for every class that turns out to massively reduce damage or take none at all.

    Assassins cannot stun with a bow from far away like a archer so it is still fair game in my eyes anyway.
  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ow im far from useless, im 5.00, hit damn hard with my +10 2 sock zerky nirvys

    seeing from the way you reply'd seems your the 1 who got butthurted b:laugh

    anyway, why are you trying to get a burn on me? i wont care anyway

    and you know as much as i , that this wont be implemented in PW so.....

    and yea to **** you off again

    hmmm stealth class,, unlimited chi, every imobelise skill ever created on skill tree,
    kills himself on bramble,, gotta admit thats just fun to look at
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    go around and ask people on your server if they know what barb demon roar does. most the people i see who kill themself on it didnt even know what it does. archers can also kill themself on deflect so does that make them op? so no your not right

    unless there killing them self in 1-2 hits then I got no sympathy for who ever kills them self with there cash shopped gear, if an archer is hitting a barb thats used that skill to deflect damage, lets say there normal hit takes about 1k damage, they use a skill on them, it jumps to about 2-3k damage depending on each others gear, lets also say that the archer by level 95-100 should have around 5-6k hp on average? there getting 100% of there damage back, most of the pkers have charms without fail (i said most, if you dont have 1 and you pk, your stupid.), they would have to blast that barb at least 4 times to be able to suicide, if you cant see *REFLECT* in them big red giant letters, to bad, learn to play.
    Skippy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sorry to say so noxide,

    i saw you reply on manny threads, and i pretty much came to the conclusion, that your always against something that could hurt your presious fishy

    ^this basicly
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  • NoXide_ - Heavens Tear
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The best part about this game is the build is your option... if you hit a veno like that and they did refine their armor to take the hit they will just simply hit bramble hood. Now lets say you do go back into stealth there is a high chance another target is near you to pull you out of stealth unless the combat is in the air. The person isn't going to stick around in the air for you to have a second attempt.

    There are damage reduction skills on every class so in this scenario there is a reaction for every class that turns out to massively reduce damage or take none at all.

    Assassins cannot stun with a bow from far away like a archer so it is still fair game in my eyes anyway.

    i watched an sin demon spark with a +10 bow today and hit a lvl 100+ well geared bm for over 10k today, granted the bm had mag marrow up but still 10k in 1 hit you really think your gonna have enough time to put up hood?
    Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
    unless there killing them self in 1-2 hits then I got no sympathy for who ever kills them self with there cash shopped gear, if an archer is hitting a barb thats used that skill to deflect damage, lets say there normal hit takes about 1k damage, they use a skill on them, it jumps to about 2-3k damage depending on each others gear, lets also say that the archer by level 95-100 should have around 5-6k hp on average? there getting 100% of there damage back, most of the pkers have charms without fail (i said most, if you dont have 1 and you pk, your stupid.), they would have to blast that barb at least 4 times to be able to suicide, if you cant see *REFLECT* in them big red giant letters, to bad, learn to play.



    right well its pretty obvious you have no idea about end game pvp. lets put it like this barb and archer goes at barb freezes archer in 1 place so archer switchies to fists and demon sparks to fist him to death (archers can get 5aps real easy) archer hits barb and barb uses demon roar.. and now dead archer, why? 5 hits in 1 second has kinda killed him straight out without the archer even having time to react when he sees the first 'Deflect' and when your being hit that fast and that hard theres no such thing as a charm it just straight out bypasses it.

    you should learn to play and gtfo the forums b:bye
  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i would like to see sins QQ when there stealth doesnt work in world map pvp

    pretty much the same imo,

    dont get what your trying to protect dude, 89 pvp kills, seems pvp isent really your game aspect
  • NoXide_ - Heavens Tear
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Skippy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i would like to see sins QQ when there stealth doesnt work in world map pvp

    pretty much the same imo,

    dont get what your trying to protect dude, 89 pvp kills, seems pvp isent really your game aspect

    yes i love how everyone brings in my pvp kills into a convo. if i can get 89 kills in 2 days while being afk most the time im pretty sure pvp is the main aspect of my game.
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »


    right well its pretty obvious you have no idea about end game pvp. lets put it like this barb and archer goes at barb freezes archer in 1 place so archer switchies to fists and demon sparks to fist him to death (archers can get 5aps real easy) archer hits barb and barb uses demon roar.. and now dead archer, why? 5 hits in 1 second has kinda killed him straight out without the archer even having time to react when he sees the first 'Deflect' and when your being hit that fast and that hard theres no such thing as a charm it just straight out bypasses it.

    you should learn to play and gtfo the forums b:bye

    LOL theres your problem, noticed when i said learn to play? archers were never designed for the actual purpose of switching to any other weapon as there primary
    form of attack, ya no, there ment to use...bows...etc

    so yea once again, learn to play, if youve been stoped in your tracks as an archer, why do you think there skills do 100% damage even at close range? guess you or the other archer nabs that use fists diddnt realize, may be if morons like you cash shoped less and hypered less, you would know how to play.
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  • NoXide_ - Heavens Tear
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
    LOL theres your problem, noticed when i said learn to play? archers were never designed for the actual purpose of switching to any other weapon as there primary
    form of attack, ya no, there ment to use...bows...etc

    so yea once again, learn to play, if youve been stoped in your tracks as an archer, why do you think there skills do 100% damage even at close range? guess you or the other archer nabs that use fists diddnt realize, may be if morons like you cash shoped less and hypered less, you would know how to play.

    i took a look at what server you play on.. explains alot you being on RT. all any of you are good for is trolling and thinking your some kind of gods at pwi.

    if you are soo good at this game then you would know that archers and bows at close range dont go right at all.. yes they have 3 mag attacks, take way to long to go off too bypass a barbs charm (dont forget this is end game pvp not low 90 pvp where barbs only just break 10k hp standind these days so 18k+ hp barbs standing) and in a fight up close like that the barb would win 90% of the time. switching to fists for the archer and 5aps his *** too death is the only bet in him/her to come out of it alive before the barb gets off a decent combo and kills him.

    your big talk Renza but in game i bet your just 1 of those noobs who fail at pvp and QQ about other people 'Cash shopping or farming' more than you. so you have came to the forums to relieve the stress you get on this game ( its a game carm down) instead of telling people who could role you with your own class to learn to play maybe you should take your own advice and do the same. being able to use multipull weapons in the heat of combat with 1 class takes some skill rather than just using the same weapons 24/7

    untill then trolling tides will be nothing but trolls b:bye
  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    right well its pretty obvious you have no idea about end game pvp. lets put it like this barb and archer goes at barb freezes archer in 1 place so archer switchies to fists and demon sparks to fist him to death (archers can get 5aps real easy) archer hits barb and barb uses demon roar.. and now dead archer, why? 5 hits in 1 second has kinda killed him straight out without the archer even having time to react when he sees the first 'Deflect' and when your being hit that fast and that hard theres no such thing as a charm it just straight out bypasses it.

    Er, wait... Were you meaning to point out another way that 5APS is inherently flawed? b:chuckle
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  • ZoanoAce - Lost City
    ZoanoAce - Lost City Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Guys, NoXide_ only speaks in threads to start fights with smarter people, don't feed his ego, please.b:surrender
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  • NatureLover - Harshlands
    NatureLover - Harshlands Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    NoXide_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    so your telling me 1 hitting myself for 9.5k on a venos Bramble isnt OP?

    Nope, not OP, nobody ask you to attack an unsuspecting veno with Bramble on for their own protection. I find sins killing others before they can even react more OP

    you came to the right conclusion seeming as every thread iv posted in is about Sin QQ or Aps. everyone wants sins to be nurfed because they cba to go buy stealth pots to see a sin in stealth mode and kill it before it kills them. or they want aps nurfed because they cba to go farm aps themselfs.

    So you expect everyone to buy stealth pots and use it each time they get out of safe zone just so they can avoid a pk by a sin. Moreover even if you do see a sin, they can teleport in to you.

    iv came to a conclusion about you, just another barb butthurt whos now useless endgame and are only good for pulling cata`s so you have came on to the forums to QQ like everyone else.

    You cant say those skills are OP. If they're OP they wont be allowed in every PvP. They're just not allowed in open pvp, which is something i dont understand, especially when these skills are used more defensively than offensively in open pvp.

    I dont see why must we impair the defensive skills of veno/barb in open pvp, while sins gain one spark for going into stealth.
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    what are people that clueless to the fact that it does not deflect range... go get a bow. You would think an assassin would be able to see that and appear with a bow instead.

    LOL! b:laugh
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