Genesis PvP

Dralighte - Harshlands
Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
edited February 2011 in General Discussion
Hi everyone,
there's a bunch of videos about skills on the Seeker and the Mystic, how it will look and stuff... But I cant find any video about a Seeker/Mystic doing PvP...
Anyone know one (Or more ;))?


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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    seekers just run around with the constant-moving aoe and kill everyone b:avoid
  • Hl/ - Harshlands18
    Hl/ - Harshlands18 Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    seekers just run around with the constant-moving aoe and kill everyone b:avoid

    Only Assassins are allowed to QQ in this thread! b:bye
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    The two new classes are restricted from doing any open world PVP. Has to do with their lore.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I heard they can't do open world PvP

    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    The two new classes are restricted from doing any open world PVP. Has to do with their lore.

    legit source yo b:cool
  • Anjiru - Sanctuary
    Anjiru - Sanctuary Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    The two new classes are restricted from doing any open world PVP. Has to do with their lore.

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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    lol


    Well, I'm curious about what does the traps of the Mystic in PvP...
    Like... does a trop shows sins who are in the range of the trap?
    Cooldown take much time or not? -Yes, I can watch the video about the skills, but it's kinda boring and I avoid threads about that too-

    I would like to see a Mystic in action... Seeker too, but I'm more looking for AA class ^^
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Hl/ - Harshlands wrote: »
    Only Assassins are allowed to QQ in this thread! b:bye

    rofl. np, most people cant tell a psy avatar from a sin avatar xd
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    The two new classes are restricted from doing any open world PVP. Has to do with their lore.

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  • Kaste - Sanctuary
    Kaste - Sanctuary Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    seekers just run around with the constant-moving aoe and kill everyone b:avoid

    Shadow teleport ftw?
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    They will be OP
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  • Man - Raging Tide
    Man - Raging Tide Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    They will be OP

    Or underpowered

    Or balanced

    the theory is they have to make everything a little bit better, to encourage people to use the new classes, gears, flying mounts, etc.
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  • fuzzywuzz
    fuzzywuzz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    We will just need to wait till about March 5th or 6th to find out.


    Fuzzy is pretty sure that by then there will be lvl100 rank8 seekers and mystics running around on every server. b:shocked
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Man - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Or underpowered

    Or balanced

    the theory is they have to make everything a little bit better, to encourage people to use the new classes, gears, flying mounts, etc.

    from what I've seen, the seeker is a sin killer, but he doesnt do so hot against caster classes.

    the mystic is also and exceptionally good sin killer (79 skill allows them to see sins of all level, regardless of stealth lvl), but they don't do so hot against archers, bms, or barbs.

    to mean it sounds like the EG make the TB less OP, and allow the old classes to feel a little useful again b:surrender
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    FuzzyWuzz wrote: »
    Fuzzy is pretty sure that by then there will be lvl100 rank8 seekers and mystics running around on every server. b:shocked

    that's for sure. people been saving up rank since last sale.

    I don't know about our server, but I'll bet money that the older servers (especially LC) will have r9 seekers and mystics within a month of the release
  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    from what I've seen, the seeker is a sin killer, but he doesnt do so hot against caster classes.

    the mystic is also and exceptionally good sin killer (79 skill allows them to see sins of all level, regardless of stealth lvl), but they don't do so hot against archers, bms, or barbs.

    to mean it sounds like the EG make the TB less OP, and allow the old classes to feel a little useful again b:surrender

    So somebody has confirmed the rumor that (at least one of the) Earthguard can see sins? b:shocked

    That could be interesting...

    World Chat will explode with: "Looking for Mystics with 79 sin-seeing skill for PvP/TW!"
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    So somebody has confirmed the rumor that (at least one of the) Earthguard can see sins? b:shocked

    That could be interesting...

    World Chat will explode with: "Looking for Mystics with 79 sin-seeing skill for PvP/TW!"

    not earthguard. Just mystics. I haven't heard if seekers possess a 79 sin seeing skill myself, seekers just have an aoe they can move around with that knocks sins outa stealth like nobodies business.

    Also, the mystic skill isnt OP. It only has a 10m range, so sins just have to make an effort to stay away from mystics. And mystics are still susceptible to tele stuns.
  • Korrok - Harshlands
    Korrok - Harshlands Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    So somebody has confirmed the rumor that (at least one of the) Earthguard can see sins? b:shocked

    That could be interesting...

    World Chat will explode with: "Looking for Mystics with 79 sin-seeing skill for PvP/TW!"

    That's going to do nothing but earn the mystics a permanent race-wide KOS lol
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    not earthguard. Just mystics. I haven't heard if seekers possess a 79 sin seeing skill myself, seekers just have an aoe they can move around with that knocks sins outa stealth like nobodies business.

    Also, the mystic skill isnt OP. It only has a 10m range, so sins just have to make an effort to stay away from mystics. And mystics are still susceptible to tele stuns.

    do you play the cn version? o:
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    do you play the cn version? o:

    no, but I talk to people that do b:laugh

    and Korrok is right- from what I've heard, mystics are KoS for most assassins. Assassins are really making a concerted effort to slow the leveling of mystics as much as humanly possible.
  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    what's the skill called that the mystics posess that let them see sins? I've never heard of any class other than sins posessing anti-stealth skills.
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    no, but I talk to people that do b:laugh

    and Korrok is right- from what I've heard, mystics are KoS for most assassins. Assassins are really making a concerted effort to slow the leveling of mystics as much as humanly possible.

    nice D:
    spam coming :p

    eh, i'm sure that a lot of groups of people would make a mystic HA 20k hp to use as a sin radar xd
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    eh, i'm sure that a lot of groups of people would make a mystic HA 20k hp to use as a sin radar xd

    lmao that'd be awesome b:laugh

    I'ma ask my sources if they've seen such a thing yet b:avoid

    I'll bet there is. HA works for venos, I imagine it works well for mysticsb:shocked

    Also this kinda changes TW for sins too. They just became less useless with mystics being sin scouts for the clerics b:chuckle
  • Skilzman - Heavens Tear
    Skilzman - Heavens Tear Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    It will take like 3 months after the update before the first Earthguards get to lvl 100 so we dont know yet how the will do in pvp.
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Skilzman - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It will take like 3 months after the update before the first Earthguards get to lvl 100 so we dont know yet how the will do in pvp.

    wrong. If there's a new server, then it might take that long for them. But on the older servers? I give it a month at the absolute most.

    People will be hypering/oracleing to 7x within just 3 or less days. Then they will run their mystic/seeker through countless FCs with their main, until it's 9x and can get more exp by joining squads.

    Even on my server, when it was first released it only took about 2 months for the first lvl 100. and that was on a brand new server- no high lvls to help.
  • fuzzywuzz
    fuzzywuzz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Skilzman - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It will take like 3 months after the update before the first Earthguards get to lvl 100 so we dont know yet how the will do in pvp.

    Fuzzy gives it 2 weeks tops. b:surrender
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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    It might be possible from day one. They spammed enough Archosaur invasions, and we had 3 months to horde brainpower orbs. Not to mention random exp orbs from BHI and celestial packs.
    /quit.

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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    lmao that'd be awesome b:laugh

    I'ma ask my sources if they've seen such a thing yet b:avoid

    I'll bet there is. HA works for venos, I imagine it works well for mysticsb:shocked

    Also this kinda changes TW for sins too. They just became less useless with mystics being sin scouts for the clerics b:chuckle

    :\

    HA works well for venos, but only because of their cash shop nix. A HA Mystic might be pushing their luck, like an HA cleric.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    HA works well for venos, but only because of their cash shop nix. A HA Mystic might be pushing their luck, like an HA cleric.

    It really comes down to the strength of the pets. If they're strong enough to attack for the mystic, then there might be something to that build.

    Besides, I'd imagine the mystics would use that build only until endgame, after they've used all their oracles and can start doing FCs where sins cant touch them.

    And on PvP servers I'd be willing to bet that factions will be protecting their new EG guildmates.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Skilzman - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It will take like 3 months after the update before the first Earthguards get to lvl 100 so we dont know yet how the will do in pvp.

    you have no idea what ppl that are 100+ for more than 1yr are capable of , don't you?
    jesus...
    I haven't been ingame for 6 months if not more, and I still have enough xp orbs stacked in the last 3 months from BH1/BH2 rewards to take a char from 1 to 80 in less than 5 minutes. I also know there are ppl that have enough orbs to take a char from 1 to 100 and also the medals needed for r8 set aside.
    I can tell you right now you will see mystics/seekers lvl 100 and rank8 maximum 2 days after expansion. For how they do in TW we will have to wait untill the next week-end. In PvP will be hard to tell until ppl get the feel of the classes and what they can do with them.
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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    It really comes down to the strength of the pets. If they're strong enough to attack for the mystic, then there might be something to that build.

    Besides, I'd imagine the mystics would use that build only until endgame, after they've used all their oracles and can start doing FCs where sins cant touch them.

    And on PvP servers I'd be willing to bet that factions will be protecting their new EG guildmates.

    While I do agree that they're going to become covetted and coddled for their abilities, I... I still dunno. Maybe if the runecrafting system makes up for the lack of mag attack in the use of HA, maybe they'll pull it out, and with that we'll start seeing more HA wizards, clerics and psys (please god no). Another contrary note about venos as to why they can pull off HA is because they're a mixed attack class, Melee/mag.

    Do Mystics have any sort of self defense buff like venos bramble guard and the Psychics soulburn? Forgive me I havent looked much into mystics beyond their pet, rez, traps and heals.

    it might work, but seems clumsy, granted most taboo-geared classes are usually clumsy at first, and usually find a means to balance itself.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    While I do agree that they're going to become covetted and coddled for their abilities, I... I still dunno. Maybe if the runecrafting system makes up for the lack of mag attack in the use of HA, maybe they'll pull it out, and with that we'll start seeing more HA wizards, clerics and psys (please god no). Another contrary note about venos as to why they can pull off HA is because they're a mixed attack class, Melee/mag.

    Do Mystics have any sort of self defense buff like venos bramble guard and the Psychics soulburn? Forgive me I havent looked much into mystics beyond their pet, rez, traps and heals.

    it might work, but seems clumsy, granted most taboo-geared classes are usually clumsy at first, and usually find a means to balance itself.

    I agree with you that venos pull it off the best.
    and I'm also in the same boat as you, I haven't cared enough to look at their buffs to see if they can pull this off.

    But that's not my point.
    My point is that on PvP servers, mystics may horribly gimp themselves on the quest for a safer oracle environment. At the very least, they'll aim to make themselves 2-3 shottable as opposed to 1 shottable, just so that fac mates can pick off the sin before they're killed.

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