Genesis PvP

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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I agree with you that venos pull it off the best.
    and I'm also in the same boat as you, I haven't cared enough to look at their buffs to see if they can pull this off.

    But that's not my point.
    My point is that on PvP servers, mystics may horribly gimp themselves on the quest for a safer oracle environment. At the very least, they'll aim to make themselves 2-3 shottable as opposed to 1 shottable, just so that fac mates can pick off the sin before they're killed.

    Mayhap, or, given their relative skill sets; we may be seeing a revival of Zhenning in the near future, which would be a welcome sight instead vast amounts of map baren. Likely wont happen because Zhenning is really really antiquated but still would be nice.


    Thinking about this makes me hopeful, that a resident future of hope may just come with Genesis, I mean, how else are mystics/seekers going to get a purpose in game when neither are viable 5.0 classes?

    Bah, anyway....


    ..I could see a seeker/mystic combo zhenning on pirates in the near future :3
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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I don't think mystics need to go HA at all. They have 2 defense buffs already, 1 wood/def buff and another from pet. The will already be stronger than wizards at defense.
    /quit.

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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I don't think mystics need to go HA at all. They have 2 defense buffs already, 1 wood/def buff and another from pet. The will already be stronger than wizards at defense.

    coupled with their traps, they may just skate by with a kinda prelim vita-mage build against perma-KOS, but, I always felt that psys should've been made an anti-sin class ya know?
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    2weeks after genesis release mystics and seeker will pop out of nowhere...
    i mean out of frost...

    even if they could see sins they will still get shred to pieces...
    i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss
  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    coupled with their traps, they may just skate by with a kinda prelim vita-mage build against perma-KOS

    As far as their pets go, their stats are based off of the mystic's stats.

    The higher the refines on armor and weapon, the higher hp and attack on pet.
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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    2weeks after genesis release mystics and seeker will pop out of nowhere...
    i mean out of frost...

    even if they could see sins they will still get shred to pieces...

    At least they'll see it comin' :P
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  • Conavar - Heavens Tear
    Conavar - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    even if they could see sins they will still get shred to pieces...

    But only would work on PvP servers. Sins on PvE are going be screwed .

    Blue name Radar Mystic at West Gate warning everyone away b:chuckle

    b:bye to Sins PK lol
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    even if they could see sins they will still get shred to pieces...

    Seeker is HA and can use some magic skills. They were practically made to kill assassins.

    Mystics can see sins in stealth, taking away the sins biggest advantage.

    Assassin could still possibly beat either in 1v1, but they'll definitely give the assassins a challenge.
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    But only would work on PvP servers. Sins on PvE are going be screwed .

    Blue name Radar Mystic at West Gate warning everyone away b:chuckle

    b:bye to Sins PK lol

    Not necassarily.

    Think about it; the mystic only tells you there is a sin there. The sin still chooses when the fight starts.

    Knowing a sin is there is one thing, but they really don't lose much in terms of the advantages stealth gives.

    Mystic is only really useful if they attack the sin to knock it outa stealth.
  • Conavar - Heavens Tear
    Conavar - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Not necassarily.

    Think about it; the mystic only tells you there is a sin there. The sin still chooses when the fight starts.

    Knowing a sin is there is one thing, but they really don't lose much in terms of the advantages stealth gives.

    Mystic is only really useful if they attack the sin to knock it outa stealth.

    True .. but the Sin can only kill people if they leave SZ. I'm more thinking the mystic is warning people not to leave SZ because theres a pond full of sins outside.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    True .. but the Sin can only kill people if they leave SZ. I'm more thinking the mystic is warning people not to leave SZ because theres a pond full of sins outside.

    I could tell you that b:chuckle
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I would like we return on the subject please b:faint
    about if there's a video about it or not yet?
    There's not only Youtube to post videos and I dont know where it could be...
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  • Oneji - Heavens Tear
    Oneji - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Hl/ - Harshlands wrote: »
    Only Assassins are allowed to QQ in this thread! b:bye

    Why QQ??? Just 35m teleport stun. face roll keyboard and win o-O?
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    I would like we return on the subject please b:faint
    about if there's a video about it or not yet?
    There's not only Youtube to post videos and I dont know where it could be...

    1. No. PW staff doesn't PK (let alone even play), so no vids regarding it yet. The Chinese players are too busy being communist and sharing amongst each other to bother uploading vids to the internets.

    2. In regards to the Mystics being able to see sins. That skill has a 10m range. Pretty much useless outside of said range. Pretty sure a sin's not gonna stand in one spot while a Mystic's running around like a headless chicken trying to ping one.
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1. No. PW staff doesn't PK (let alone even play), so no vids regarding it yet. The Chinese players are too busy being communist and sharing amongst each other to bother uploading vids to the internets.

    Uhm...
    well, if some players already reccorded about the expension with skills and stuff, I think they did more?
    And... I'm sure there's some people from PWi who are trying it on the Chinesse version...
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1. No. PW staff doesn't PK (let alone even play),

    BS. So I did 1 mil+ dmg to myself in my sig? b:angry
  • Laranda - Heavens Tear
    Laranda - Heavens Tear Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Do Mystics have any sort of self defense buff like venos bramble guard and the Psychics soulburn? Forgive me I havent looked much into mystics beyond their pet, rez, traps and heals.

    Looking at Mooy's translations, they don't. Though, that list is only to lv59. I wasn't aware that the Lv79 skills were out. b:shutup

    About the summons, there was some screenshots of the pet stats at Lv100. Iirc, even with a warsoul glaive, it was in around 3k attack or less for the first 2 summons. Not quite nix range. Not sure if a HA build would work off that.

    I'll see if I can find those screenshots again if interested.
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    And... I'm sure there's some people from PWi who are trying it on the Chinesse version...

    They are, but SomebodyTwo turned 49 a little while ago. Don't think there's been enough time to reach Lv79 yet. :S
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Laranda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

    They are, but SomebodyTwo turned 49 a little while ago. Don't think there's been enough time to reach Lv79 yet. :S

    mhmm, if you can ask him if he can duel some random player and to pu it on a video, I would appreciate it =)
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  • Laranda - Heavens Tear
    Laranda - Heavens Tear Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    mhmm, if you can ask him if he can duel some random player and to pu it on a video, I would appreciate it =)

    Will this work? :P

    Not sure how much playing with bots counts, but it's what we got atm. o.o
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I already saw this one... but it's not really PvP ._.
    It's like... he stands 4 min around and wait....
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    They will be OP

    And how do you know this is true?b:scorn

    They don't have 5aps, and the Seekers seem to have a lack of stuns and the skill that is suppose to see sins in stealth is most likely a 79 skill (so they won''t be able to see sins anytime soon) and the mystics are a mage class that is squishy and use more MP than a wiz or a cleric so they don't seem that OP, just wait until March to find out. (unless PWI change the expatiation date to July or something).

    You guys always expect the worst........
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Boogiepanda - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Only class with ability to knockback in PvP? That doesn't sound OP at all.

    I want to see a video or some type of prof to tell if that's true. b:sweat

    And who knows if they get knockback to work every other class with knockback should have that to work to.... b:scorn
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »
    And how do you know this is true?b:scorn
    Because people that have played PW CN have confirmed it b:bye
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »

    the skill that is suppose to see sins in stealth is most likely a 79 skill (so they won''t be able to see sins anytime soon)
    Seekers dont have a sin seeking skill, Mystics do. And writing it off as a problem that wont be around "anytime soon" isn't a valid argument, because eventually it will be.
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »

    use more MP than a wiz or a cleric so they don't seem that OP
    Platinum Spirit Charm, and herbs= no mp problem. Stating that MP consumption is a balancing issue is absolute bull ****.
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »

    And who knows if they get knockback to work every other class with knockback should have that to work to.... b:scorn
    Definitely. The logic is there; if one class can do it, all should. But PWI has a tendency to not update existing classes, even though they obviously should.
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1. No. PW staff doesn't PK (let alone even play), so no vids regarding it yet. The Chinese players are too busy being communist and sharing amongst each other to bother uploading vids to the internets.

    2. In regards to the Mystics being able to see sins. That skill has a 10m range. Pretty much useless outside of said range. Pretty sure a sin's not gonna stand in one spot while a Mystic's running around like a headless chicken trying to ping one.

    The value of that skill, I imagine, is in preventing assassins from escaping.

    And, I would imagine they have other tricks for dealing with being ambushed.
  • LOKl_ - Harshlands
    LOKl_ - Harshlands Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    As I have said before it is a cultural thing... Most asian servers I have played on pk and pvp is down to a bare minimum. People have more important things to do like lvl.


    It seems only us in the western world have a strong desire to kill eachother as soon as we can but eh... ITS AMERICA F*** YEA!!!!b:victory (sorry got team america on in the background... give it up for puppet sex)

    And if I am not mistaken we didn't have any pvp videos for the tideborn till after they came out and somebody went crazy on low lvls around heavens tears on day 3 or 4 of that expansion... As a wise lil green man once said Patience young padawanb:thanks


    Have fun all cya in game


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  • Laranda - Heavens Tear
    Laranda - Heavens Tear Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »
    I want to see a video or some type of prof to tell if that's true. b:sweat

    I just posted it barely a page ago. o.o;; (at 1:10 or so)

    Edit: As for other classes and knockback, see here.
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »
    And who knows if they get knockback to work every other class with knockback should have that to work to.... b:scorn

    Yeah, good luck with that one.
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    I already saw this one... but it's not really PvP ._.
    It's like... he stands 4 min around and wait....

    It's all I got atm. :/
  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Because people that have played PW CN have confirmed it b:bye
    Laranda's post just gave a video to also confirm that so yea..

    Seekers dont have a sin seeking skill, Mystics do. And writing it off as a problem that wont be around "anytime soon" isn't a valid argument, because eventually it will be.

    Well, we will see if it becomes such a huge issue when the expansion comes. lol

    Platinum Spirit Charm, and herbs= no mp problem. Stating that MP consumption is a balancing issue is absolute bull ****.

    I wasn't saying it was a issue I'm just saying that it will just be annoying needed to buy a buch of MP pots every couple of days.

    Definitely. The logic is there; if one class can do it, all should. But PWI has a tendency to not update existing classes, even though they obviously should.

    Well I agree, PWI have a bad rep of not doing anything right and making the player base "happy" but anything can happen so we have to wait and see.

    Laranda - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I just posted it barely a page ago. o.o;; (at 1:10 or so)


    Edit: As for other classes and knockback, see here.

    Well, I wasn't online playing for a month or two and was to lazy to read the whole thread.... b:surrender


    It's all I got atm. :/

    Well thanks for the vids anyway! b:thanks

    That's all I have to say.....
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    xcliqz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ^
    can't tell if you're trying to be funny or troll...

    either way you failed
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Because people that have played PW CN have confirmed it b:bye

    And even without that, its important for pwi's business model, so I would be very concerned about how long the servers would be running if the new classes were not OP.

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