Attention people who run willy-nilly around the 100 second stand rooms of Cube:

Longknife - Harshlands
Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
edited January 2011 in General Discussion
What the HELL do you think you're doing?? Dodging/out-running the arrows?
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I'm at the center perma sparking o.o
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    It's all part of the plan
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  • DangerField - Dreamweaver
    DangerField - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    They are obvious avoiding the mobs.

    I dont think you understand how hard a room like 47 can be for someone with low survivability on some levels.
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    yeah, we don't all get blood paint and perma spark. even for me, crab meat jiaozi doesn't fully keep up with heals in The Final Stand (47). Invoke, solid shield, plume shell, wings of protection dont work either. so what i normally do is go in fully sparked and in tiger -> sunder the mob at center straight away followed by bestial rage, then run around the outside avoiding extra damage from the free roaming mobs while eating crab meat. about half way through I have to ToP, at which time I generally sunder the guy in the middle again.

    each class has its own best way to beat those rooms. clerics can stand in a corner and kill the mobs and spam heal, i do what i do, 5.0's can whack the guy in the middle to perma spark. different for everyone.
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  • Jay_Dubbz - Lost City
    Jay_Dubbz - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    they're dodging the little mobs dummy! b:bye
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    how hard can it be to go to the corner, kill the mobs and then kill the one mob that sometimes aggros u?

    well, u can do the room however u want but I wont sit with crossed hands if i see a meele running torwards me, regardless of how many mobs follow him...b:shocked
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I go in the centre and fist the boss. Revenge proc + triple spark heals ftw b:victory
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    DangerField - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    They are obvious avoiding the mobs.

    It's these kinds of people who stand too close to mobs in an FB, and then decide the only way to survive is to run deeper into the dungeon towards other mobs, away from their comrades.
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  • LShattered - Heavens Tear
    LShattered - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,365 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I do it because otherwise I get bored.
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited January 2011
    LShattered - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I do it because otherwise I get bored.

    Agreed. I hate those two rooms soooooo much...it's like being stunned and getting beaten on by a weaker attacking character, just with the ability to pop crab meat. Booooooriiiing....
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  • LShattered - Heavens Tear
    LShattered - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,365 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    Agreed. I hate those two rooms soooooo much...it's like being stunned and getting beaten on by a weaker attacking character, just with the ability to pop crab meat. Booooooriiiing....

    I try and do as many cartwheels/whatever they are before the 100 seconds finishes...quite amusing sometimes.
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  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Err.. last time I was in room 47... bramble hood, second wind, crab meat, soul transfusion, metabolic boost. Everything on cooldown. Dead.

    Saw a demon veno running around once in the other 100 second stand rooms. And why not run around? If the mobs can't reach you anyway, why kill them and receive extra damage?
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Why not just stand in a corner and, y'know....stand?
    I <3 AGOREY
  • xcliqz
    xcliqz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Why do you care anyway?
    let people play how they want to play, you aint their momma telling them to stand in corner.
  • Bellarie - Raging Tide
    Bellarie - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    It's these kinds of people who stand too close to mobs in an FB, and then decide the only way to survive is to run deeper into the dungeon towards other mobs, away from their comrades.

    Non sequitur. As a veno, I am expected to lure mobs in FBs, and I also lure aggressive mobs while out and about lvling or questing if they are too close together. Anyone with half a brain is not going todo what you just described.
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Why not just stand in a corner and, y'know....stand?

    Oh, right, because it's not like mobs are comig at you while you are taking all this unavoidable damage.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Bellarie - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Non sequitur. As a veno, I am expected to lure mobs in FBs, and I also lure aggressive mobs while out and about lvling or questing if they are too close together. Anyone with half a brain is not going todo what you just described.

    Oh man, have you ever been in a squad??

    Oh, right, because it's not like mobs are comig at you while you are taking all this unavoidable damage.

    Yes they are...

    ....When you run around the room all willy nilly. :U

    Or you could stand in the corner and be fine, killing one mob that spawns near you every 30 seconds.
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  • Tearle - Dreamweaver
    Tearle - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I like to run the full cube on my lvl 68 Arcane armor veno. When I go in there I bramble hood / fox and run because killing those things doesn't seem too easy for her. That being said I never tried to kill them on my veno and if it's easy please tell me because the cube is annoying enough as is when I get that room, and an easier option would make me very happy C:


    And don't just say, don't run the cube on your veno D; I've completed it before on her, and it's a nice diversion from bh/questing until I can get her into gamma range.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Tearle - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That being said I never tried to kill them on my veno and if it's easy please tell me because the cube is annoying enough as is when I get that room, and an easier option would make me very happy C:

    Not sure how easy it is for lower levels, but those damn things kill themselves on my reflect. That's some low HP...
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  • Tearle - Dreamweaver
    Tearle - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Not sure how easy it is for lower levels, but those damn things kill themselves on my reflect. That's some low HP...

    oh! you're absolutely right, I completely forgot that. b:surrender I'll give it a try next time I'm in there instead of running around and doing barrel rolls like a fox on crack.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    The quest actually tells you to "Run Run Run...".

    Personally I just run in the corner and forcelog to save my crab meat.
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Why not just stand in a corner and, y'know....stand?

    Since you asked so nicely, I thought I might try answering you:

    An arcane veno can outrun those monsters easily, using her speed buffs. This typically means she takes no damage from them (or maybe an occasional hit if she is laggy, super unlucky, or clumsy). If she stands still she takes some amount of damage which would be greater than zero, and those hits will tend to be close together.

    Now, unless you really plan to argue that absorbing a bunch of damage from those monsters is better than taking no damage from those monsters, I think I have answered your question.
  • Tearle - Dreamweaver
    Tearle - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »

    An arcane veno can outrun those monsters easily, using her speed buffs. This typically means she takes no damage from them (or maybe an occasional hit if she is laggy, super unlucky, or clumsy). If she stands still she takes some amount of damage which would be greater than zero, and those hits will tend to be close together.

    This is me on my veno b:surrender
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  • Nekhebet - Heavens Tear
    Nekhebet - Heavens Tear Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    only reason people run around is to avoid mobs...how can a char that let's say is lvl 70 whit 2500+ hp do room 47?....he takes so much dmg that the only way to do it is run and spam pots....if u know a better way to do it then let's us know....until that day...how about u keep u'r dumb questions and suggestions for yourself . God i hate those oracle FF int noobs that think they know everything about this game.

    Have a nice dayb:bye
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  • Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary
    Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary Posts: 448 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Nekhebet - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ...God i hate those oracle FF int noobs that think they know everything about this game.

    Have a nice dayb:bye
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  • ZeroDefects - Dreamweaver
    ZeroDefects - Dreamweaver Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Nekhebet - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    only reason people run around is to avoid mobs...how can a char that let's say is lvl 70 whit 2500+ hp do room 47?....he takes so much dmg that the only way to do it is run and spam pots....if u know a better way to do it then let's us know....until that day...how about u keep u'r dumb questions and suggestions for yourself . God i hate those oracle FF int noobs that think they know everything about this game.

    Have a nice dayb:bye

    I was thinking exactly the same thing. the game is easy when you have rushed past most of it and never had to actually experience the tough parts
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Nekhebet - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    only reason people run around is to avoid mobs...how can a char that let's say is lvl 70 whit 2500+ hp do room 47?....he takes so much dmg that the only way to do it is run and spam pots....if u know a better way to do it then let's us know....until that day...how about u keep u'r dumb questions and suggestions for yourself . God i hate those oracle FF int noobs that think they know everything about this game.

    Have a nice dayb:bye

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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The quest actually tells you to "Run Run Run...".

    Personally I just run in the corner and forcelog to save my crab meat.

    Yes. This idea be pr0. Everyone with a brain does this. Saves money.
    Nekhebet - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    only reason people run around is to avoid mobs...how can a char that let's say is lvl 70 whit 2500+ hp do room 47?....he takes so much dmg that the only way to do it is run and spam pots....if u know a better way to do it then let's us know....until that day...how about u keep u'r dumb questions and suggestions for yourself . God i hate those oracle FF int noobs that think they know everything about this game.

    Have a nice dayb:bye

    Ok wait what.

    The middle mob does the vast majority of damage. If you're running around then you're creating a burden, which is that you HAVE to keep moving. Moving + spamming crab meat + spamming whatever heal spell you have is pretty bleh.

    On the other hand, one mob is an absolute one shot. If you stand in a corner, you only have to worry about one mob. Ranged classes can kill it without taking a hit, BMs and Sins can stun it before even getting hit, I severely down Barbs are living in fear of getting hit by those mobs.
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  • Aracnius - Dreamweaver
    Aracnius - Dreamweaver Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    96 psy with 4k hp unbuffed, for me i just run around i never get hit other then the middle mob and just spamming crab meat only can keep my charm from ticking o.o plus its more fun running in a square then standing, i stand doing nothing to much in bored room anyway
    (never did room 47 always payed to skip and not taking the chance to probably get 2 hitted)
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  • lizards
    lizards Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Aracnius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    96 psy with 4k hp unbuffed, for me i just run around i never get hit other then the middle mob and just spamming crab meat only can keep my charm from ticking o.o plus its more fun running in a square then standing, i stand doing nothing to much in bored room anyway
    (never did room 47 always payed to skip and not taking the chance to probably get 2 hitted)



    97 psy 3300 hp unbuffed accidentely didn't pay to pass room 47 - survived with crab meat, charm tick like crazy, second wind, bubble of life and barely survived - I run to not get hit by runny mobs and chance survival - would always recommend to pass room if you can.
  • Nekhebet - Heavens Tear
    Nekhebet - Heavens Tear Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

    Ok wait what.

    The middle mob does the vast majority of damage. If you're running around then you're creating a burden, which is that you HAVE to keep moving. Moving + spamming crab meat + spamming whatever heal spell you have is pretty bleh.

    On the other hand, one mob is an absolute one shot. If you stand in a corner, you only have to worry about one mob. Ranged classes can kill it without taking a hit, BMs and Sins can stun it before even getting hit, I severely down Barbs are living in fear of getting hit by those mobs.

    man i am talking about a bad gear'd character that get's 2 shoted in room 47 if he takes more then the dmg from the middle mob....i have done cube and i know what i am talking about..there is no point in risking to kill mobs and die...when u can just run a bit a finish the room..this is my opinion
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