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abattlewalrus
abattlewalrus Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2011 in General Discussion
Why is there gear in game that requires levels higher than 105 when 105 is the max level?

Are they going to expand the game later to allow people to go higher than 105?

Sorry kinda new
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
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    The original plan max lv is higher than 105 but it's unfinished . . (maybe only f2p version)
    Which why some end game high lv quest, npc, items, feature, is left unfinished and instances that mean for higher lv didn't work as what originally planned.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
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    The original, P2P version of the game had lvl cap of 150.
    The F2P versions are reduced in size overal (the original map itself was aLOT bigger in the P2P version to)
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  • abattlewalrus
    abattlewalrus Posts: 0 Arc User
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    Original P2P meaning the chinese perfect world

    This is perfect world II correct

    According to PWE's website anyway
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
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    abattlewalrus wrote: »
    Original P2P meaning the chinese perfect world

    This is perfect world II correct

    According to PWE's website anyway

    The original P2P version is shut down if I remember correct
    PWII is the chinese F2P version
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited January 2011
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    WTS lvl110 hp and mp pots b:avoid
  • Vratix - Archosaur
    Vratix - Archosaur Posts: 63 Arc User
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    Yea I'm level 860 it just doesn't show the 0 for some reason
  • Spirit_Age - Raging Tide
    Spirit_Age - Raging Tide Posts: 267 Arc User
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    Coded hard cap would be 150, but as you can see, we only have one person at level 105, and a handful at 103, no sense in having a 150 open world.
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  • SaiIorMoon - Lost City
    SaiIorMoon - Lost City Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited January 2011
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    there's more than one 105.
  • Xoria - Sanctuary
    Xoria - Sanctuary Posts: 419 Arc User
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    SaiIorMoon - Lost City wrote: »
    there's more than one 105.

    There is one 105 and two 104. On this game, anyway.

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  • Kehrendorh - Archosaur
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur Posts: 492 Arc User
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    Off topic but:

    Anyone know why they stopped P2P? I wouldve loved, L O V E D....to play that.
  • prof
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    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The original, P2P version of the game had lvl cap of 150.
    The F2P versions are reduced in size overal (the original map itself was aLOT bigger in the P2P version to)

    this couldn't be more wrong

    the cap was never 150, not even in the original p2p version. 150 is a test level for gm's - if you've ever seen the code you'll even see a very large number of quest requiring level 150 to even start. they give test items.

    the map was never larger, get that out of your head. there's a lot of unreleased test areas away from the main map that don't have a walking surface on them(ie: there's an image of the model there, but it's like a large block. can't walk on it).

    where's your source? mine's in the change logs, development logs/blogs, and within the the source files.b:bye


    also: chinese pw is at level 120 cap. they will only increase it when a large amount of players reach it. as it is, nobody is aiming for it, like 101 is the very end of the game.

    there's 49 more levels, sirs.
  • Dragono - Lost City
    Dragono - Lost City Posts: 118 Arc User
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    Yes the Chinese Level cap is 120 but I've never seen anyone higher than 105 there :/
    Try to hit 102 as well you need around 280 Million (280'000'000) from 101 to 102...
    You can make another Lvl 101 Character with it xD
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  • Fresh_Aire - Dreamweaver
    Fresh_Aire - Dreamweaver Posts: 27 Arc User
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    prof wrote: »
    blah blah blah.

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  • SaiIorMoon - Lost City
    SaiIorMoon - Lost City Posts: 158 Arc User
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    Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »
    There is one 105 and two 104. On this game, anyway.

    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/ranking

    b:surrender I could have swore someone mentioned a 105 on some pve server.
  • Kehrendorh - Archosaur
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur Posts: 492 Arc User
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    Fresh_Aire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Someone is on a very, very high horse. Would you like to come down before you get frostbite, sir?

    Right. lol. Thats what I was thinking.
  • prof
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    Dragono - Lost City wrote: »
    Yes the Chinese Level cap is 120 but I've never seen anyone higher than 105 there :/
    Try to hit 102 as well you need around 280 Million (280'000'000) from 101 to 102...
    You can make another Lvl 101 Character with it xD

    it was only raised to 120 recently, there's thousands at 105 though. 104 -> 105 is 1.75b exp, i could outlevel you 100 times with that. was it worth it? some of us would do anything for a few extra stat points.
    Fresh_Aire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Someone is on a very, very high horse. Would you like to come down before you get frostbite, sir?

    i don't like false information being spread as fact. people in this game plague these forums with what they think is true and will argue it to be fact. ugh. more commonly displayed as "my friend said.." - if all of your friends lie to you this much, get new friends. b:shutup
  • Spirit_Age - Raging Tide
    Spirit_Age - Raging Tide Posts: 267 Arc User
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    Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »
    There is one 105 and two 104. On this game, anyway.

    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/ranking

    My mistake, Last I checked, there was no level 104 characters. b:shocked
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  • Tsubakey - Heavens Tear
    Tsubakey - Heavens Tear Posts: 473 Arc User
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    prof wrote: »
    this couldn't be more wrong

    the cap was never 150, not even in the original p2p version. 150 is a test level for gm's - if you've ever seen the code you'll even see a very large number of quest requiring level 150 to even start. they give test items.

    the map was never larger, get that out of your head. there's a lot of unreleased test areas away from the main map that don't have a walking surface on them(ie: there's an image of the model there, but it's like a large block. can't walk on it).

    where's your source? mine's in the change logs, development logs/blogs, and within the the source files.b:bye


    also: chinese pw is at level 120 cap. they will only increase it when a large amount of players reach it. as it is, nobody is aiming for it, like 101 is the very end of the game.

    there's 49 more levels, sirs.

    cite the sources you claim to have. if you dont then you are as full of BS as he is and should **** while your behind.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
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    Tsubakey - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    cite the sources you claim to have. if you dont then you are as full of BS as he is and should **** while your behind.

    He mentioned sources.
    Besides, saying something is exactly as it appears doesn't need as much backing as these accusations everyone else is making.

    People claiming that the map was larger and that the level cap was 150 have showed no proof, they simply made the statement early in the thread and for some reason it's snowballed into being fact.

    Until someone can prove the argument that the game is otherwise from what it appears to be right now, it doesnt exist.
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
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    Actually game files have up to level 151 already coded in, but obviously not in use; ijs.
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  • Obly - Dreamweaver
    Obly - Dreamweaver Posts: 209 Arc User
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    What Traz said.

    This is also the reason that the 100 --> 105 Exp requirement is so rediculous.

    The exp calculates to that point of 151, but the level calculates till 105.

    So this basically means....when 105, you actually leveld to 151 exp wise.

    if you check the exp growth from lvl 80 - 98 you will see a constant growth. But, then all of a sudden it doubles up more and more.

    Logically thinking you should also realize that this exp can;t be true for that level. cause if the original gamecode is programmed for lvl 151 cap. then....that would be what? 557.669.400.000 exp for lvl 120-121... Sure...makes sense...
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  • Ass/ssiN - Dreamweaver68
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    Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What Traz said.

    This is also the reason that the 100 --> 105 Exp requirement is so rediculous.

    The exp calculates to that point of 151, but the level calculates till 105.

    So this basically means....when 105, you actually leveld to 151 exp wise.

    if you check the exp growth from lvl 80 - 98 you will see a constant growth. But, then all of a sudden it doubles up more and more.

    Logically thinking you should also realize that this exp can;t be true for that level. cause if the original gamecode is programmed for lvl 151 cap. then....that would be what? 557.669.400.000 exp for lvl 120-121... Sure...makes sense...

    The in game code has from 104+ all 1.75 billion experience per level. But we also lack all the instances for experience in that span. I heard about an instance in the level 120s that gives 235m experience to complete (don't quote me anyone can confirm?). Just using that as an example that getting to 150 isn't such as crazy as it sounds even with 1.75 billion exp to level.
  • Obly - Dreamweaver
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    ***/ssiN - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The in game code has from 104+ all 1.75 billion experience per level. But we also lack all the instances for experience in that span. I heard about an instance in the level 120s that gives 235m experience to complete (don't quote me anyone can confirm?). Just using that as an example that getting to 150 isn't such as crazy as it sounds even with 1.75 billion exp to level.

    Well i figured the growth rate would be explainable that way, cause that about makes sense with the previous growth in EXP needed per level. Calculating that through, you end up with about the same amount, thus i figured that 2 be the case. But i do not have any code sources or anything 2 confirm that. Its a calculation that made me sorta guess on that, to explain it for myself as to why its shoots up that much all of a sudden..


    Well for what i heard 104 to 105 is around 4.2 Billion, but i cannot confirm that atm. But even if it would be 1.75 Billion per level till 151, there should indeed be some insane Instances, because with the current games mechanics and options to gain exp, which are really high, its not going to come even close 2 getting there.
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  • Ass/ssiN - Dreamweaver68
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    Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Well i figured the growth rate would be explainable that way, cause that about makes sense with the previous growth in EXP needed per level. Calculating that through, you end up with about the same amount, thus i figured that 2 be the case. But i do not have any code sources or anything 2 confirm that. Its a calculation that made me sorta guess on that, to explain it for myself as to why its shoots up that much all of a sudden..


    Well for what i heard 104 to 105 is around 4.2 Billion, but i cannot confirm that atm. But even if it would be 1.75 Billion per level till 151, there should indeed be some insane Instances, because with the current games mechanics and options to gain exp, which are really high, its not going to come even close 2 getting there.

    102 -> 103 = 535m
    103 -> 104 = 1.35b
    104 -> 105 = 1.75b
    105,....,151 = 1.75b

    Don't get me wrong it's just the current chart and not saying that it's 100% accurate or wouldn't be changed if the levels really went into effect but that's what it is for now.
  • NiaJade - Harshlands
    NiaJade - Harshlands Posts: 303 Arc User
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    Vratix - Archosaur wrote: »
    Yea I'm level 860 it just doesn't show the 0 for some reason

    Because you ... are the 0 (zero)....


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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
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    For what it's worth, I believe prof (to the extent that it matters). Some things in pwdatabase will point you to NPCs who exist only in "Test map ###" or some other nonexistant place. These NPCs, apparently, will sell very awesome items. It seems to me like a feature that would only be designed for a GM to use.

    As for the level cap? Of course they'll lift it... eventually. And the way they're going to lift it is in increments of 15. From 105 to 120... from 120 to 135... and finally from 135 to 150.

    The "soft caps" should go down, too... when 120 becomes the hard cap, 105 will become the soft cap as 90 is now. When hard cap goes to 135, soft cap goes to 120... etc.

    No, I don't have a source for any of this - it's just my own personal speculation. But really, with 45 levels to go, doesn't that sound like the most sensible way to split it up? That's three new expansions' worth right there (provided they actually get off their butts and make content for said levels).
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  • NightRage - Raging Tide
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    Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »
    Off topic but:

    Anyone know why they stopped P2P? I wouldve loved, L O V E D....to play that.

    PWI wanted to make money.

    LOL.

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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
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    abattlewalrus wrote: »
    Why is there gear in game that requires levels higher than 105 when 105 is the max level?

    Are they going to expand the game later to allow people to go higher than 105?

    Sorry kinda new

    Lvl cap is 105 ... uncapped is 150.

    Next gen is still going to be capped at lvl 105 so no rush, unless you wish too.
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  • Ryiah - Heavens Tear
    Ryiah - Heavens Tear Posts: 65 Arc User
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    Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »
    Anyone know why they stopped P2P? I wouldve loved, L O V E D....to play that.
    Competition. Amongst other selections, a certain Blizzard product was in China starting around mid-2005. I believe the P2P version was simply a failure compared to everything their competitors offered. And thus they re-released as a F2P product.
  • Ao - Raging Tide
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    It is not true that Chinese p2p version closed, it's alive and kicking. b:victory

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