Sage Sandstorm

ZEOVOID - Harshlands · December 2010

hey i wanted to ask.where can i find the sage sandstorm book.what do i need to get it.Plz give me some info.

prof · December 2010

http://www.pwdatabase.com/
http://www.ecatomb.net/
http://www.google.com/
http://janelh.wikidot.com/
http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver · December 2010

prof wrote: »

http://www.pwdatabase.com/
http://www.ecatomb.net/
http://www.google.com/
http://janelh.wikidot.com/
http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/

I think the google one wins

Alias - Dreamweaver · December 2010

NUUUUUHHH!!!
Dont Get it the effect sucks so much

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I mean cmon who misses on Arcanes >:
Waste of Moneh Sp And Tiem b:angry

But prof pretty much covered it o.o
*Waits quietly for enough money to get mine* >.>
So jealouse of the demon version -.-

Lolomgwtfbbq - Lost City · December 2010

lol sage sandstorm isnt the best but it still 1 hits the noobs u dont wanna bother playing with b:chuckle someone sell me a will of phenix b:surrender

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver · December 2010

Alias - Dreamweaver wrote: »

NUUUUUHHH!!!
Dont Get it the effect sucks so much <!
I mean cmon who misses on Arcanes >:
Waste of Moneh Sp And Tiem b:angry
-.-

Other arcanes?
Or maybe an archer with glasses

ZEOVOID - Harshlands · December 2010

yeah ty very much for respond but i wana know how to get it in pwi where do i need to go or what do i need to kill to get it.or what mats do i need.i need a location to get the book sage sandstorm

prof · December 2010

if you would have read my post, ******, you would know.

●Sandstorm

Option one: Wizard Book: Sage
Made from: Old Book Page
Most commonly obtained from cube(yes, I know. you don't know what that is.).

Option two: ●Wizard Bookclip
Made from: 30 Advanced Mystical Pages
Most commonly obtained from tokens of luck.

final is the same as option 2, but you're giving 300 pages for pretty much all level mid-leveled sage books.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver · December 2010

ZEOVOID - Harshlands wrote: »

yeah ty very much for respond but i wana know how to get it in pwi where do i need to go or what do i need to kill to get it.or what mats do i need.i need a location to get the book sage sandstorm

And if you had botherd to even TRY to search for it, you would have found it in the FIRST link prof gave you.

Personaly I think prof was to kind to you. Work abit for your stuf dude

prof · December 2010

I should've mentioned that the wizard bookclip is random between a group of books, and the all option gives everything that's random.

ZEOVOID - Harshlands · December 2010

yeah i went throught all links and could not find anything.the first link takes me to a page with nothing on it.idk if it works on ur computer but it does not on mines so think a bit more next time before u talk.

ZEOVOID - Harshlands · December 2010

also forgot ty prof XPb:kiss

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver · December 2010

ZEOVOID - Harshlands wrote: »

yeah i went throught all links and could not find anything.the first link takes me to a page with nothing on it.idk if it works on ur computer but it does not on mines so think a bit more next time before u talk.

And if you bother to check the links on that page, you see a search funtion

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver · December 2010

prof wrote: »

I should've mentioned that the wizard bookclip is random between a group of books, and the all option gives everything that's random.

that's true so you get all 10 books including sandstorm for 300 advanced mystical pages while buying only 1 book for 30 advanced mystical pages gives you just 1 random book out of the 10 possible books. Nevertheless you wont be able to get ultis out of it since these skills come from fate pages from cube and there its also a gamble (1:5) to get exactly the one skill you want. Old book pages drop not exactly the same skills like advanced mystical pages but there are some skills which can be in both book types namely the masteries

@sage sandstorm

i got it and im not that impressed because compared to sage stonerain the dmg difference is rather small for me i guess a demon sandstorm makes here a bigger bang since you get +1200 more dmg compared to the sage version.
Im also not sure if the skill description of the sage sandstorm is correct because on the book it said that the critical chance of your enemy is decreased by 50% and not the accuracy but ecathomb and all the other descriptions point out that its about accuracy and the duration of the debuff goes from 10s -->15s

greetz harm0wnie

hetra987 · January 2011

^ all Sage/Demon skills get a bonus aside from the path-specific ones, usually extra damage, but could include the debuff duration extending as well?

Or PWI messed up translating, which they never do of course

b:chuckle

Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Oh on another note, with a highly refined weapon and sage earth mastery, sage sandstorm does more damage than demon I believe.

Ursa - Dreamweaver · January 2011

I can't believe ppl qq about this.
FFS, it's lvl 11 skill, yeah, has a so-so debuff, but you still gain some dmg increase from lvl 10. It's not much, but throw a poison+ undine and it will be worth it. Unless you're fooling around, nukes should always hit with a debuff to maximize the dmg output.

Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver · January 2011

Seriously, who uses sandstorm for the blind effect anyway?

prof · January 2011

why did a question about how to obtain a skill turn into a debate between 2 cultivations?

dark is better, you're oblivious if you say otherwise. who uses this skill, though? i have it on my 6 key but i find that i very rarely use it, unless i want to bypass archer hiero's, which can be done faster/easier with divine pyrogram

Adroit - Lost City · January 2011

prof wrote: »

why did a question about how to obtain a skill turn into a debate between 2 cultivations?

dark is better, you're oblivious if you say otherwise. who uses this skill, though? i have it on my 6 key but i find that i very rarely use it, unless i want to bypass archer hiero's, which can be done faster/easier with divine pyrogram

I think they are about the same, with sage mastery you do more damage (but less crit)

prof · January 2011

i was speaking of the skill exclusively, the adds it gains from going either cultivation

Adroit - Lost City · January 2011

prof wrote: »

i was speaking of the skill exclusively, the adds it gains from going either cultivation

You can't look at a skill all by itself.. other skills directly affect it. Assuming equivalent end game weapons and build, a sage wizard will do more damage with lvl11 sandstorm than a demon wizard. The argument would go the other way if one of our skills increased crit by less than that of a demon mastery. You could probably make the argument that demon gets a damage add that nearly makes up for sage mastery and still has the crit buff, but you still need to look at them together imo.

prof · January 2011

why can't i? it seems very valid to judge skills individually.. as their individual features play an important role when choosing between them at level 89. but if you'd like to factor that holy passives damage+skill does more damage, i could say that dark wellspring+the crit passives+any combination of skills > everything holy can do. but hey, that's just me.

b:bye

Adroit - Lost City · January 2011

prof wrote: »

why can't i? it seems very valid to judge skills individually.. as their individual features play an important role when choosing between them at level 89. but if you'd like to factor that holy passives damage+skill does more damage, i could say that dark wellspring+the crit passives+any combination of skills > everything holy can do. but hey, that's just me.

b:bye

passives should be counted in. I'm tired of hearing people think that if they go demon their sandstorm will hit harder than if they are sage. It doesn't work like that.. sorry.

As a side note, the -channeling on demon wellspring is nice.. but can hardly even be put in the same category as a skill like sage BIDS. Honestly, sage BIDS would probably have been reason enough for me to pick sage over demon.. everything else is just icing on the cake =]

prof · January 2011

sage bids is only a real factor when the people you play with have low refines and don't know what mdef is. aka, all of lost city. baddie carebears. when people can't die in 1 hit anymore, which is a very common sight when the entire server you play isn't lazy as ****, sages turn into demon so they can kill in pvp.

Adroit - Lost City · January 2011

prof wrote: »

sage bids is only a real factor when the people you play with have low refines and don't know what mdef is. aka, all of lost city. baddie carebears. when people can't die in 1 hit anymore, which is a very common sight when the entire server you play isn't lazy as ****, sages turn into demon so they can kill in pvp.

You just need to be able to hit them for more than 50% of their max hp. An ulti crit with the right debuffs should be able to hit more than 50% on an opponent. If you can't bypass their charm, it is highly unlikely you could kill them in the 10 seconds between charm ticks. Mages are a DPH class, if you focus on DPS you'd be far better off as a psychic or archer. Sage BIDS is easily the best skill a mage can ever learn, maybe you like the playstyle of demon and prefer demon perks.. but you can't say sage BIDS isn't spectacular.

BTW, this idea that server has any impact whatsoever on skill or knowledge of a class is getting annoying. We all know you are the demon **** that jizzes over channeling.. but that doesn't mean you are some god of wizards. You play a different version and your experience doesn't directly transfer to this version. You need to realise that you are the inexperienced n00b here.. not us.

prof · January 2011

the server you play directly effects the experiences and skills you use. you gear and play to the style of the players around you, and when you can simply 1 hit everyone with a guaranteed crit, no reason to do anything else. your server is filled with people who refine their weapons high and leave their armour low.. it's disgusting, really.

but hey, i'm just an inexperienced noob that has everything you do, but a server filled with people who actually know how to play. b:surrenderwhat could i possibly know?

btw, it isn't as spectacular as you think it is, or this forum use to believe. i don't even know mages who still use the damned skill. holy usually just cancels it with an axe or something for the crit effect, then pitifully tries to spam attacks in the short amount of time.

Adroit - Lost City · January 2011

prof wrote: »

the server you play directly effects the experiences and skills you use. you gear and play to the style of the players around you, and when you can simply 1 hit everyone with a guaranteed crit, no reason to do anything else. your server is filled with people who refine their weapons high and leave their armour low.. it's disgusting, really.

but hey, i'm just an inexperienced noob that has everything you do, but a server filled with people who actually know how to play. b:surrenderwhat could i possibly know?

btw, it isn't as spectacular as you think it is, or this forum use to believe. i don't even know mages who still use the damned skill. holy usually just cancels it with an axe or something for the crit effect, then pitifully tries to spam attacks in the short amount of time.

1. You can't one shot everyone
2. There is no way as a mage to have a guaranteed crit

I love how you say that you play with people that know what they are doing and then go on in the next sentence about "holy" mages that don't use BIDS.. just cancel it for the crit proc. Makes me laugh. The only reason you say BIDS isn't spectacular is because your epeen is so invested in your cultivation choice that you can't even see how your bias has affected your thinking. 50% chance to increase crit rate by 30% on our hardest hitting AoE skill (and keep the crit rate for the next 10 seconds)? Yes please.

Arenaceous - Lost City · January 2011

ok let's try again... prof, ask yourself: Are you able to hit an opponent for more than 25% of his hp with lvl 11bids noncrit and all debuffs you can think of? If yes, you are able to bypass their charm with a sage bids crit... If not: How on earth are YOU actually killing them?. b:surrender

prof · January 2011

no mage would waste their fury on something that does the same damage as glacial snare on anyone who knows what 'mdef' is and refines for it. i know your best geared players have +7 at the highest.. eh. +7 is terrible and will always be. farm alt level of refines. it took me 2 weeks to +7 an entire set, lazy chumps.

i'm not biased towards either cultivation as I'VE USED BOTH IN EVERY SITUATION IMAGINABLE b:shutup. that includes tw, world pvp, gv, etc. there's nothing i haven't done with either. sage is terrible. it's slow. it makes me feel like i actually require the support of others to do anything. the only person who doesn't suck as sage wears a full set of heavy armour, thus nerfing his damage severely; but, at least can survive with his poor cultivation choice.

bids damage is inferior to blade tempest, when will you learn? learn to crit glitch, it'll make you a happy camper

arenaceous: relying on bypassing someone's hiero is weak. if you can't kill them normally you need to rethink your strategy

Adroit - Lost City · January 2011

prof wrote: »

no mage would waste their fury on something that does the same damage as glacial snare on anyone who knows what 'mdef' is and refines for it. i know your best geared players have +7 at the highest.. eh. +7 is terrible and will always be. farm alt level of refines. it took me 2 weeks to +7 an entire set, lazy chumps.

i'm not biased towards either cultivation as I'VE USED BOTH IN EVERY SITUATION IMAGINABLE b:shutup. that includes tw, world pvp, gv, etc. there's nothing i haven't done with either. sage is terrible. it's slow. it makes me feel like i actually require the support of others to do anything. the only person who doesn't suck as sage wears a full set of heavy armour, thus nerfing his damage severely; but, at least can survive with his poor cultivation choice.

bids damage is inferior to blade tempest, when will you learn? learn to crit glitch, it'll make you a happy camper

arenaceous: relying on bypassing someone's hiero is weak. if you can't kill them normally you need to rethink your strategy

BIDS does the same damage as glacial snare? Interesting. I always assumed a higher weapon multiplier and much higher static damage meant that BIDS does more damage. Maybe I should blindly listen to the all knowing prof that is digging a hole he can't get himself out of.

Not everybody has the time to farm 24/7 like you. I enjoy my 4.0 GPA and doing things that don't require me to be starring at the monitor. Lazy and having real life priorities are very different.

Just because you can't figure out how to play a sage mage doesn't mean demon is better. You obviously don't understand the advantages of a DPH class, and the more you post the more I'm convinced you should not be playing a mage. You'd be far better off as a psychic or archer.. as they are actually made to "kill people normally".

I know how to crit "glitch".. but it is horribly ineffective in pvp. I can't believe anyone would actually recommend doing this.. you must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel to say something. Sage BIDS is way better than BT, you're lying to yourself if you say otherwise. Lol there is so much BS in your post.. I'm actually getting bored responding. There was actually a short time I thought you had something to offer, but its obvious you are as narrow-minded as ever.

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