Pwi Before or Pwi Now?

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Mmhmm, telling someone to try something that's free before listening to whiners sure is trolling.

Oh, don't act like you've never trolled Janus. You wouldn't wanna be considered a liar, would you?

lol!

It was never "fitting for it's name". It's a fricken name, and a gimmick. Obviously you were dumb enough to take that literally.

Someone wasn't around during Beta.........
But if it's such a gimmick, why are you still playing? Eh?


And then once upon a time, person naively took this gimmick literally. And venomancers became more than just a lure with the herc. Oops?

Oops? Did you fall down? >

Before Genies came out, Venomancers were hardly rolled, and were only used as lures. To make some money and make the Venomancers more appealing, they decided to stick in very expensive legendary pets. Of course what they forgot to look at was the power of that bleed.

Thus, the QQbird was born.



People complained about TW before the "fixes" -- primarily about factions owning the map which had been done long ago. Nothing useful about this.
And now EVERYBODY is complaining.


APS had long been in this game before changes to TT and Nirvana and FF. People only came upon this realization well after.
Didn't I mention that in the APS thread? Oh wait.....


People used to QQ about veno bleed, QQ about BM APS, QQ about being slept constantly, stunned constantly, kited constantly. QQ + QQ = more QQ.
And QQ about QQ = More QQ.


.. and merchants, and anyone who appreciates lower prices of shards, pots, subs, pages, hypers, makeover scrolls, GS, and so on. Oops, forgot a few people while pretending you have brain cells? I bet you use most of those and benefit from packs, yet complaining. Hypocrite much?

Funny, if I remember correctly prices of gold go up during pack sales....Pretty sure THAT isn't appreciated.
I did forget to mention the merchants, our bad.

So are we keeping score or something?


No, actually, there's numerous topics on this with people liking the fact that it came out. Translation: I didn't like it therefore everyone who doesn't think like I do has no brain cells. Egocentric much?

Oh do link one. I'm all curious now.

There's nothing egotistic about pointing out game flaws. But of course, there's nothing flawed about literally paying the price of a cheep used car to oneshot everything in a two mile radius, right?
Still, it was a good try. If you act like something that has effectively ruined PvP and PvE is a good thing, maybe you deserve to be told you lack braincells, mmm?


How dare they actually give sales to people who help keep their company running by using real life cash. Those ****. b:cry

There's a difference between packs once in a while, and packs every week for the last 15 months. I was one of those people who bought them early in the game because I figured they needed the money. Turns out, all they were doing is saving up so they could stick Forsaken World in my face. No, I didn't spend 10k on this game so you could make another game and not **** that one up, I paid you because I want you to improve this game, and NOT **** it up.

Somewhere along the way, it just didn't work out like that.
It's their money now, so I don't really bother with it. That doesn't mean I don't have the right to be a little angry about it. It's completely unreasonable not to be angry, it depends on the degree.

As good as FW looks now, I have to wonder if a good chunk of the PWE money isn't going to them instead of us. I am of course, terrified to even so much as touch it now due to the fact they're run by the same people currently **** up our game.

Although, I doubt people who actually bought the stuff would say that it was shoved down their throat. Sounds like it was a sweet deal for them, wasn't it?

It's only a problem until it's your problem, and then, it's a big problem. The thing is, for them it's not a problem. Kind of like for you, it's simply not a problem because you don't allow yourself to see that it's a problem. I see it as a problem because as a formerly paying member, I can tell things got screwy when the Endgame started popping out, after old folks worked for their gear.

Messed up? Yeah, pretty messed up.


Which things? In almost every case I've seen, it's either something that had been answered already, and thus did not merit a continuous response to the same thing, or something that PW or any company could not possibly benefit from in answering.

And there you go.


This is a marketing tactic to get more people to try new content they create. Any company would do this, especially in the F2P MMORPG industry. Useless whine.

Was I complaining? I'm playing a fish, why should I care?
Simply because other people are asking for it, and PWI just simply won't get it to us. That's why I cared to mention it. Good try though.


And possibly coming soon, more pointless banter and whining from someone who can't seem to stop playing a game that makes them QQQQQQQQQ.

Hey, I'm not complaining about APS nurf--quite the opposite. Now on the other hand....you can expect the REAL nerdrage to come from all the very very shortsighted people who paid all that money for APS characters. For the sake of my health, I won't be around that day, or I'll laugh myself into a coma.


No, it was never a "perfect world" -- again, this was a gimmick, and you were dumb enough to fall for it. The key to making a decent argument is actually understanding a situation realistically. You downplay how much people used to whine about everything before, and are exaggerating what people are whining about now. It does not take a genius to see this, and it's a pretty crappy way at trying to give yourself validity. Presuming everyone who disagrees with yourself is an idiot or has no brain cells is icing on the cake.

You make it almost sound like I'm trying to troll or something. :S That's not very nice Janus. But at least you're doing better than the last post.

How many things, exactly, were complained about when things were actually....you know, good? I'm talking about before genies came out. How many of us REALLY, ACTUALLY complained about something that wasn't really needed to be complained about?

It's a fact....that quite honestly, we NEVER complained as much then as we do now. Not even close.

I don't call EVERYBODY who disagrees with me brainless....have you ever seen me call Eoria brainless? Or even you? I've said you lacked braincells, but never brainless. There's quite a difference between the two.

Now, Luctirica, Yulk, and Tweakz, THOSE guys are brainless. Tweakz I consider slightly off the far side of the pool, however, he's only brainless when it comes to APS.
Guess that just means I'm going to have to cook up a new insult, since it looks like you're tired of me using the same old thing....that's a pity, the braincells joke is my favorite.


Nonsense. While I haven't directly seen you use the phrase "game is dead" I've seen you hyperbolically declare every facet of the game dead as well as most classes that don't include assassin. You also said you would stop posting, and also said that you quit the game yet you must have missed the topic that was deleted with someone posting a screenshot of you talking on world chat after posting you quit. Typical crybaby quitter "QQ i r quitting" attention grab, then come back the next day and pretend it never happened.

When have I ever said clerics were dead? Or Blademasters? No, I may have stated fewer people would play them. I may have said they're some of the fewest played classes. But there's a difference between a dead class, and one that's not played.

I have said Wizards are dead. Because they are.
I have said Barbarians are dead. Because they are.
I've said Venomancers are in trouble. With practically a double of their class, sprinkled with butterflies and a few earth skills, yeah, they are.
I've said Archers are dead. They've been dead.
I've said Blademasters are in trouble now that the Seekers are coming out.
I've said Assassins are going to get what's coming to them once everybody hyper/oracle's their EG's to 100. And they will. When that day comes, I'll come back, sit quietly on the wall by West Archosaur, and watch the pandemonium.
I've said Clerics are in trouble. With the Mystics coming soon, it's possible that they are.

I said I'd stopped playing. Posting in WC is simply that....posting in WC. Just because I log in, doesn't mean I'm continuing to play. There's a few reasons why I'm still around:

1) My fiance still plays. I don't have the heart to tell him I bought Final Fantasy XIV and am not taking the game seriously anymore.
2) I like checking up, messing around on WC, and smalltalking in West Arch.
3) If Luctircia shows up on Harshlands, I'm going to kill her **** just like I promised.
4) I'm no longer IN it, but I still recruit for Shadows once in a while, simply because they're nice people, and need some help recruiting.

I did log in once to see if I could buy a decent pair of wings, I think. And then there was this interesting two tele conversation when Eoria and I were online at the same time.

I've about told you on every single topic we've ever argued on that I don't believe the game is dead. It's just very, very sick.

If you're going to try and use my words against me, at least try and do it right. :S


Pack sales have happened for almost a year and a half now. What you call "broken game mechanics" have been around for 2+ years now. You've come late to the QQ party and all the QQ beer is gone.

That's "fashionably late" to you, sir. I didn't start QQing until they stuck endgame in a pretty box for five dollars a pop-- THAT is what broke the camel's back.
But that's cool....I was never much of a beer drinker....and knowing PWI, their beer would be flavorless, and cost a fortune. Personally, I would rather go with the martini...at least I know I'm getting some quality for my money.

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