how nasty are r8 archers

Cyb_kairu - Sanctuary
Cyb_kairu - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
edited December 2010 in General Discussion
yes I'm asking this in general fourums and not archers, and it's for a wider idea and not an idea mostly from other archers.

but as for the question are r8 archers still one of the things to fear in pk or no.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    R8 anything is to be feared.
  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    R8 anything is to be feared.

    BS.

    Most people have R8 with +3 or 4 refines now. R8 used to be owned only by cs'ers that would refine to +8 minimum. Also, R8 is now only the wep, people generally don't have the other gear to back it up like R8 owners from before the sale.
  • Krue/ - Lost City49
    Krue/ - Lost City49 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    BS.

    Most people have R8 with +3 or 4 refines now. R8 used to be owned only by cs'ers that would refine to +8 minimum. Also, R8 is now only the wep, people generally don't have the other gear to back it up like R8 owners from before the sale.

    THIS THIS THIS!

    There was a squad with a rank8 veno, rank8 cleric, and some other noob the other day. I dropped all of them no problem, then they QQ about how OP my class is strictly because they are rank8 and still can't survive.

    People need to lrn2gear
  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    THIS THIS THIS!

    There was a squad with a rank8 veno, rank8 cleric, and some other noob the other day. I dropped all of them no problem, then they QQ about how OP my class is strictly because they are rank8 and still can't survive.

    People need to lrn2gear

    let me guess rank8 sin, +10 daggers, all your targets arcane? b:chuckle

    its not even funny anymore...
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  • Amourie - Heavens Tear
    Amourie - Heavens Tear Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Rank 8 weapons :D
  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    BS.

    Most people have R8 with +3 or 4 refines now. R8 used to be owned only by cs'ers that would refine to +8 minimum. Also, R8 is now only the wep, people generally don't have the other gear to back it up like R8 owners from before the sale.


    +0 R8 weapon has about the same p.atk or m.atk as a +10 Lunar weapon. So yeah, doesn't matter if it's +3 or 4, it's still like they're running around with a +10 lunar weapon.
    So I have to agree, anyone with a R8 weapon will pretty much hit hard, regardless of how crappy the rest of their gear is.
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  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    This one archer with r8 once tried to get me to google blue waffle. So yea, I'd say r8 archers are pretty nasty.
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  • Noob - Raging Tide
    Noob - Raging Tide Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    sleepcat wrote: »
    This one archer with r8 once tried to get me to google blue waffle. So yea, I'd say r8 archers are pretty nasty.

    ROFL EWWW btw sleepy u still rank 3 in diamond sc2? o.O
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  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    +0 R8 weapon has about the same p.atk or m.atk as a +10 Lunar weapon. So yeah, doesn't matter if it's +3 or 4, it's still like they're running around with a +10 lunar weapon.
    So I have to agree, anyone with a R8 weapon will pretty much hit hard, regardless of how crappy the rest of their gear is.

    True, they still hurt, but not like what you could expect from pre-sale R8 players, so when you meet an average R8 player now its just not as intimidating. D:
  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I've beaten a few R9 players with +10 refines on everything in duels surely I hope the result is not the same in PK however I have defeated people in PK with full nirvana +10 so it cannot be much different... the question is can they hit you... if they do not get the chance and you get every debuff on them while sealed/stunned then I'm pretty sure they might drop no matter who they are... now assassins on the other hand always get the first strike so chances are the only thing that will drop against them is you. b:laugh
  • HealingBliss - Lost City
    HealingBliss - Lost City Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I've beaten a few R9 players with +10 refines on everything in duels surely I hope the result is not the same in PK however I have defeated people in PK with full nirvana +10 so it cannot be much different... the question is can they hit you... if they do not get the chance and you get every debuff on them while sealed/stunned then I'm pretty sure they might drop no matter who they are... now assassins on the other hand always get the first strike so chances are the only thing that will drop against them is you. b:laugh

    pwcalc of your gear? b:shutup
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    @Healingbliss
    ....if they do not get the chance and you get every debuff on them while sealed/stunned then I'm pretty sure they might drop no matter who they are...

    That answers your question. If you basically prevent your opponent from attacking altogether, no matter what gear they have (even +12s), they will die.


    Also I doubt duels would give a good idea of how dangerous archers are since everybody and their families stand at melee range when dueling an archer <.<

    In open pk however, I guess it comes down to who gets the first shot and with a r8 weapon, youre gonna be doing a tonne of damage to an unsuspecting target (who might not have all the buffs up or apoths ready).
  • HealingBliss - Lost City
    HealingBliss - Lost City Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    @Healingbliss



    That answers your question. If you basically prevent your opponent from attacking altogether, no matter what gear they have (even +12s), they will die.


    Also I doubt duels would give a good idea of how dangerous archers are since everybody and their families stand at melee range when dueling an archer <.<

    In open pk however, I guess it comes down to who gets the first shot and with a r8 weapon, youre gonna be doing a tonne of damage to an unsuspecting target (who might not have all the buffs up or apoths ready).

    Even though that wasn't even close to the question i asked. Thanks.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Most r8 archers I've faced die very fast.


    They don't have the gear to back them up. LOL
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  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    True, they still hurt, but not like what you could expect from pre-sale R8 players, so when you meet an average R8 player now its just not as intimidating. D:

    Your not intimidating D:

    But yeah, most archers are still just that, archers, nothing like mages or psy`s, which can be pretty damn scary, even if they only got that R8 wep +4.
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  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    @Healingbliss



    That answers your question. If you basically prevent your opponent from attacking altogether, no matter what gear they have (even +12s), they will die.


    Also I doubt duels would give a good idea of how dangerous archers are since everybody and their families stand at melee range when dueling an archer <.<

    In open pk however, I guess it comes down to who gets the first shot and with a r8 weapon, youre gonna be doing a tonne of damage to an unsuspecting target (who might not have all the buffs up or apoths ready).

    Yeah for sure if they get one shot off I better be dead or else I'd be pretty disappointed that this super expensive weapon didn't kill me.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Rank 8 for weapon is a joke. I don't know why people stop at 1st stage Nirvana, and I don't know why anyone would refine a rank 8 weapon to +10. If you're rank 8: you're already 2/3 the way to 9 in rep, and rep is stupid cheap atm. It's not like we can't picture the other mats for r9 gears becoming more available as they have in the past, and it's not like we can't get them from DQ points which come from doing almost anything fun.
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  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Rank 8 for weapon is a joke. I don't know why people stop at 1st stage Nirvana, and I don't know why anyone would refine a rank 8 weapon to +10. If you're rank 8: you're already 2/3 the way to 9 in rep, and rep is stupid cheap atm. It's not like we can't picture the other mats for r9 gears becoming more available as they have in the past, and it's not like we can't get them from DQ points which come from doing almost anything fun.

    the amount of mysterious chips needed for R9 is the majority of the problem.... for some R8 is good enough as it was a upgrade to the weapon they had prior to the sale.
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Rank 8 for weapon is a joke. I don't know why people stop at 1st stage Nirvana, and I don't know why anyone would refine a rank 8 weapon to +10. If you're rank 8: you're already 2/3 the way to 9 in rep, and rep is stupid cheap atm. It's not like we can't picture the other mats for r9 gears becoming more available as they have in the past, and it's not like we can't get them from DQ points which come from doing almost anything fun.


    You're 2/3 to r9, but not to r9 weapon or even the ring.
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  • stoned/ - Harshlands6
    stoned/ - Harshlands6 Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    r8 sin is more nasty.....
  • Love_Arrows - Harshlands
    Love_Arrows - Harshlands Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    each class is good in its own way and how good you play the class to.
  • Dandelyn - Heavens Tear
    Dandelyn - Heavens Tear Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Most r8 archers I've faced die very fast.


    They don't have the gear to back them up. LOL


    Rank 8 ring, $73.00.
    Rank 8 bow, 2 mil coin.
    100 mirages to refine said bow to +3, 1.5 mil coin.
    Two immaculate garnets for said bow, 1.5 mil coin.
    One unfired bow on the ground next to a dead archer.. priceless.
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Rank 8 ring, $73.00.
    Rank 8 bow, 2 mil coin.
    100 mirages to refine said bow to +3, 1.5 mil coin.
    Two immaculate garnets for said bow, 1.5 mil coin.
    One unfired bow on the ground next to a dead archer.. priceless.

    b:chuckle Too bad it's bound
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  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    maybe the weapon they used prior to getting rank will drop? b:laugh
  • RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    R8ers aren't scary. I'm used to getting hit by +10 and over r8 wizards on my server so most of them don't intimidate me. Only thing I notice is that more magic/range users are going in PK mode since the rep sale.
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  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Only thing I notice is that more magic/range users are going in PK mode since the rep sale.

    cos they think they'r 1337 with +4 R8 bow and +2/3 armors! XDD

    and topic. no R8 isnt scary at all. +10 or higher is.

    personally I use a R9 bow atm +5, which should be around dmg of R8 +10 cos of the attack lvls.. however the dmg is good. but not THAT scary, ofc it kills. but not like i 1 shot decent geared ppl ya know.

    had alunar bow +10 prior to sale. swapped to R8 +5, well dmg ok.. not high at all lol.. so wel found out if sold some could get R9, so i did lol.
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  • KingThis - Heavens Tear
    KingThis - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Rank 8-9 anything is lul if they cant play their char xD
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    *looks at my +5 armor...looks at the rank 8 +0 critting for 2/3 my max hp*

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  • Martiin - Archosaur
    Martiin - Archosaur Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Rank 8-9 anything is lul if they cant play their char xD

    I am pretty sure a fully decked out archer (rank9) with full set(+60att lvl) + blessing with their weapon +12 garnets can basically target you...and you die.

    The only time, "Knowing" your char comes into play is when the difference in gear is not astronomical which for some people is not the case.

    The day a noob archer with full +12 rank9 gear dies to a same level archer with TT99 crossbow with all gear +0 is the day I will drop out of college and buy you rank9 myself.

    Of course considering the noob has the, "skill" to click on the pro archer lol.

    Skill is not half the battle in this game. Luck and timing are equal to the importance of skill and well gear outweighs everything being more then half the battle.

    Knowing your char is like saying knowing how to read. Yes some people may fail and such, but if clicking a button can kill you...then forget skill I want god-like gear. b:dirty
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  • Shevanel - Sanctuary
    Shevanel - Sanctuary Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    R8ers aren't scary. I'm used to getting hit by +10 and over r8 wizards on my server so most of them don't intimidate me. Only thing I notice is that more magic/range users are going in PK mode since the rep sale.
    Before this sale, just how many mages had r8? I can think of one.. how "used" to being hit by said mage can you be to make that assumption? I know you have good gear, but be ready for upcoming tws *to see how you drop..

    be interesting at least..


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