Equinox Vs. Kindrid
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Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »You said the TW was fun. I'm sure it was because your guild is in comparison to Regenesis. Anyways though, post how fun you think Equinox vs. Kindrid will be to you. Maybe next weekend, that is if what you say is true "this was the best TW I had in a long time!" then you should encourage your leader to bid against Regenesis next weekend, rather than a faction significantly weaker.
Dsholder, the conduction and decisions of Equinox are none of your concern. What lands we take, where we bid, and how we enjoy TWs... why does it matter to you anymore? You left Equinox a long time ago, and is it really worth it to continue to bash us every time there's a tiny thing you could even turn into a bash? Focus on your new faction, leave hate behind. It's time to move on, Ds. Turn your passion for hate into something more productive.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »
I've already talked to Tempest officers and members about the bid on Mafia and I'm still trying to change the locations we attack to not attack small factions, weather effortless or not.
Great. Trying to focus on your faction here. Well, that's a plus to you.
Another Equinox officer telling me to not worry about their bidding, lovely. So Shadow do you also not believe in a colorful map? Do you believe in trying to dominate the entire map and not let the smal TW factions fight each other? I have focused deeply on my faction though and what' we have done. But I'm also concentrating on every other faction and their bids to see which one will try to pain the map first, so that I can call blaim to them when people are complaining in 6 months about TW being dead for their small guilds.
As Graviora said, you don't have to focus on other factions and see who bids on who and what goes on. If a faction dominates the whole map again, no one is gonna come punch you in the face and tells you 'Oh, Dsholder, you failed to notice that one faction was on its way to world domination. It is all your fault.'
When people complain about TW being dead, it wasn't entirely because of a big faction like Cala owning the map, it was because of the GMs **** up the TW themselves.
You said the TW was fun. I'm sure it was because your guild is in comparison to Regenesis. Anyways though, post how fun you think Equinox vs. Kindrid will be to you. Maybe next weekend, that is if what you say is true "this was the best TW I had in a long time!" then you should encourage your leader to bid against Regenesis next weekend, rather than a faction significantly weaker.
You can't bid on a faction your level ALL the time just because you want other factions to have a land. Sure it's great for a faction to have a land and all but are you trying to say that EQ should only bid Regensis, Tempest, or Dynasty (any of the strong factions, really) because they're stronger than Kindrid? How about you just let Kindrid talk for themselves and let's try going back to Quote 1 and following that.
On a personal note, will an Equinox officer please post to say if they care about small guilds owning land, or if they don't care, thanks. I'll definitely be fine if you care about trying to dominate the whole map and not let the low guilds fight each other, as long as you come out and say it first. Because then, I'll treat TW with an entirely different perspective.
Ex:
- Strongest faction eats all.
- 5 minutes TW each week will be acceptable.
- TW is all about the farming of mirages, woot.
- Less colors on the map, they're ugly anyways.
- Guilds too small, yea you shouldn't bid too much eventually vs. the big guys cause it'd be fake bid if your guild rosters aren't reasonable and you lose an attack in 5 minutes and IF somehow your faction gets a gank in, the big guild will try to get your leader banned if they are dissapointed with the outcomes of their TW.
Do you honestly thing the above examples will be healthy for TW. No.
Small guilds can fight each other still. Equinox attacking Kindrid won't stop Kindrid from attacking other factions next weekend or the weekend after. Even if Equinox has the intention to dominate the map, there will be a chance for smaller faction to try and attack other factions on the map.
You are here discussing map domination and fear of Equinox not allowing other factions to fight each other while it is none of your concern really.
It was nice of Cala to disown the map and let the smaller factions have a chance to own some lands. However, that doesn't mean when a faction owns the whole map again, they'd have to disown it like Cala did.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »
Another Equinox officer telling me to not worry about their bidding, lovely.
Another Tempest member being nosey, Awesome.0 -
SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »Small guilds can fight each other still. Equinox attacking Kindrid won't stop Kindrid from attacking other factions next weekend or the weekend after. Even if Equinox has the intention to dominate the map, there will be a chance for smaller faction to try and attack other factions on the map.
You are here discussing map domination and fear of Equinox not allowing other factions to fight each other while it is none of your concern really.
It was nice of Cala to disown the map and let the smaller factions have a chance to own some lands. However, that doesn't mean when a faction owns the whole map again, they'd have to disown it like Cala did.
This is a result of something that have happened and not the reason why it happened.
And actually I think it concerns the entire server what Equinox is doing with TW because I think there was a certain post calling everyone to attack a single faction before, to prevent a single faction achieve map domination, but right now they are contributing to that temself. Perhaps their leadership/faction goal has changed though.0 -
Why does everyone have to bicker constantly? It really does get old. Sometimes I wonder if you all pick fights just so you can let some steam out after coming home from your dead-end, low paying jobs or something.
Why do you have to speculate and be oh so concerned about things that are not even your business?
Seriously. The epic tl:dr paragraphs about -they did, they're doing, they're going to do- are getting redundant. Especially when most of the time the troll in question is way off base anyhow.
Let's just enjoy TW, kay? Peace love and understanding.b:cuteOn indefinite hiatus
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And ive always wanted to tell you this......
But I love you
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Well Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me for asking what kinda underwear you wearShadowOfLife - Dreamweaver wrote: »Another Tempest member being nosey, Awesome.
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*Grumbles*
Last time i try to be nice and social and normal >.>
HUMPH!
*Storms off to find a puppy*
OntopicKindasorta.
Im gonna play a very special song.....thats just for youb:mischievous
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Omg. xD Alias, you crack me up. Lmao...This is a result of something that have happened and not the reason why it happened.
And actually I think it concerns the entire server what Equinox is doing with TW because I think there was a certain post calling everyone to attack a single faction before, to prevent a single faction achieve map domination, but right now they are contributing to that temself. Perhaps their leadership/faction goal has changed though.
Hmmm...I remember that post but I don't remember who were the people who responded with agreement/disagreement to it and if EQ members were one of them, tbh.
All I want to say is, just let them be. When Equinox bid on Kindrid, it does not mean the end of the map, let alone that they're not even close to owning all of it in the time being..[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Graviora - Dreamweaver wrote: »Dsholder, the conduction and decisions of Equinox are none of your concern. What lands we take, where we bid, and how we enjoy TWs... why does it matter to you anymore? You left Equinox a long time ago, and is it really worth it to continue to bash us every time there's a tiny thing you could even turn into a bash? Focus on your new faction, leave hate behind. It's time to move on, Ds. Turn your passion for hate into something more productive.
Yup, it's very true I left. It concerns me though, because I play on Dreamweaver and I want to know about the future of TW. I just want to know why none will tell me, what's the reasoning of bidding vs. Kindrid instead of against Regenesis. What's this with 'leave hate behind'? Do I have hate against Equinox. I'm just a very curious person, wanting to know the reasoning, that's all. Because I'm also judging the reasoning, doesn't mean I hate though.[SIGPIC]http://a.imageshack.us/img714/9433/testoz.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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Oh oh Oh.SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »Omg. xD Alias, you crack me up. Lmao...
No she didnt >.>
Oh No SHE DIDNT!!
*Throws my heals and earrings at tep*
YOU CALLING ME A CLOWN ARE YOU!!!
ILL MAKE YOU GIGGLE HEFFA<!
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Alias - Dreamweaver wrote: »Oh oh Oh.
No she didnt >.>
Oh No SHE DIDNT!!
*Throws my heals and earrings at tep*
YOU CALLING ME A CLOWN ARE YOU!!!
ILL MAKE YOU GIGGLE HEFFA<!
*Pulls out switchblade and assaults serenity*
Switchblades are still considered melee, right? o.o Lemme pull my Bramble Hood up so you can assault on your own death, shall we? b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Here's another question for all of you, Dreamweaver to ponder. "Would Regenesis bid against Kindrid or another significantly weaker faction, while they have the opportunity to bid against Equinox, a power more equal that's near them?" Since some of you do believe i hate Equinox though just because my opinion about TW are different than there's I'd also like to point out that I'm not biased against them. I'd posted the same thread, but with a different title if Regenesis bid against Kindrid this weekend, or against a weaker faction instead of Equinox, which was good though, because they didn't happen which gives me hope that at least all big factions won't take all the small factions lands. But, throuhg all these posts I've read from Equinox members, none can assure me that they will let small factions keep land. They just tell me to mind my own business, tell me that's none of my concern, or totally get off subject about other TWs.[SIGPIC]http://a.imageshack.us/img714/9433/testoz.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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This is a result of something that have happened and not the reason why it happened.
And actually I think it concerns the entire server what Equinox is doing with TW because I think there was a certain post calling everyone to attack a single faction before, to prevent a single faction achieve map domination, but right now they are contributing to that temself. Perhaps their leadership/faction goal has changed though.
I do recall a similar thread and meetings, but....I can't find the thread. This is the exact reason why I want to know if their faction goals have changed, but none who have posted will tell me.
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Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »Here's another question for all of you, Dreamweaver to ponder. "Would Regenesis bid against Kindrid or another significantly weaker faction, while they have the opportunity to bid against Equinox, a power more equal that's near them?"
I have a better question
Who cares?
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Teppeii - Dreamweaver wrote: »I have a better question
Who cares?
b:bye
some people does and it bugs me too. maybe u dotn care. but some do.I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender
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Teppeii - Dreamweaver wrote: »I have a better question
Who cares?
b:bye
If you don't care about it, you can always stay out of the thread. But then again, who cares about what you say? b:bye0 -
Teppeii - Dreamweaver wrote: »I have a better question
Who cares?
b:bye
Answer: obviously not you
Doesn't mean no one else does b:bye0 -
From what I've seen in the past is that Cala / Regen has always aimed to take out those that is the biggest thorn on their side that they can. This style protects small factions ability to TW as long as possible, but I do not believe that is their intention, but merely a byproduct of their valid battle strategy to take out the most bothering factions out first, not the easiest.
I have full expectancy that Regen will take out any weak faction THE MOMENT the small faction becomes a problem for them, or is the last remaining faction from full map dominance.
In the past EQ always bulldozed any weaker faction out of their way to cling on any land possible and only attacking Calamity when left with no other choise, or when they managed to get the upper hand for couple weeks straight. However to my understanding there is a major overhaul in EQ leadership and I am still watching if the old EQ is the same as the new.
However, I wouldn't blame EQ for attacking Kindrid, because Kindrid is far from being a WEAK faction. Conciderably weaker than EQ yes, but still one of the strongest factions in the server, which has great potential to become a major thorn in Regen's / EQ's side.
Another point is that Kindrid has.... quite a lot of land now and shows no interest for being content with what they have, so if EQ can mowe Kindrid out, it will give little more breathing room for the smaller factions to keep up a multicolor map. However for EQ to do that, they should have been doing it at least a month earlier. Now it's way too late to protect any faction from Kindrid.
In conclusion? I haven't made my mind up on EQ just yet.... I wouldn't put it behind EQ for them to go on a bid war on Bushi land with God, Kindrid, Inversion and Tempest, or on any other weaker factions land. xD
As a ending remark, in my opinion Kindrid is the weakest tier 1 faction right now and everyone weaker than Kindrid down south is firmly stuck in tier 2 faction class. However I have no idea how strong Spade, or Warlock is, but I have a strong feeling that they're tier 2 as well, but there might be couple tier 3 factions left as well, however certainly not many.
Here's an interesting question. Can anyone name a faction that WOULD NOT take the whole map, if they had and knew they had the ability and strength for it?0 -
Equinox rolled Kindrid pretty fast, proving my point of how much weaker Kindrid is in comparison of Equinox. The war lasted what, shorter than 13 minutes?[SIGPIC]http://a.imageshack.us/img714/9433/testoz.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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Hazumu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
Another point is that Kindrid has.... quite a lot of land now and shows no interest for being content with what they have, so if EQ can mowe Kindrid out, it will give little more breathing room for the smaller factions to keep up a multicolor map. However for EQ to do that, they should have been doing it at least a month earlier. Now it's way too late to protect any faction from Kindrid.
Before eq's attack on kindrid tonight:
eq: 5 lands
kindrid: 5 lands
More than a little hypocritical to say they were attacking kindrid to protect other factions from them, seeing as numerically, both factions are doing just as much harm to the principle of a multicolored map. I also doubt that was eq's motivation, which is good because as far as motivations go, i think this one is one of the more arrogant and hypocritical that i could think of.0 -
Shadowfire - Dreamweaver wrote: »Before eq's attack on kindrid tonight:
eq: 5 lands
kindrid: 5 lands
More than a little hypocritical to say they were attacking kindrid to protect other factions from them, seeing as numerically, both factions are doing just as much harm to the principle of a multicolored map. I also doubt that was eq's motivation, which is good because as far as motivations go, i think this one is one of the more arrogant and hypocritical that i could think of.
While I might agree with you, a 3 smaller faction gank on Eq and Kindrid would yield different results. Kindrid might lose a land or 2 but Eq would just steamroll anyone who challenges them. And if Kindrid can lose to weaker factions then Kindrid holding 5 lands and Eq holding 5 lands is quite different. in fact, Kindrid's might allow more TW action, drama, etc while Eq's would just be a lame 5-ish min TW.0 -
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@Shadow:
If you actually read the portion you quoted, you should find the notion that I find it doubtful that that what I said was EQ's plan.
The reason I said it is that EQ is claimed to have all new leadership and they sure as hell didn't care for the small factions ability to TW before. The act of Kindrid is sort of..... halfway there.... Fairly strong target (Significantly weaker than EQ still as I did point out) and eager for land. But just like you said, protecting a rainbow map is a fundamentally flawed plan and highly hypocritical and secondly, they're far too late on Kindrid to do any good eitherway as I pointed out.
However, if they keep attacking those stronger than most factions, it would allow other factions to try a gank on them with EQ and this is why I said that it's halfway to the claimed motivations.0 -
Regenesis losing first real TW...
Someone in there must have a sad... I actually feel bad for BB on this one, I hope you get it right next time mate!
Andres, really, the arrogance from your first two posts on topic made me laugh on Sunday when I saw the TW outcome. Couldn't believe it actually, had to check twice the remaining TW and current map config. Tempest from what I see has a pretty good plan ahead. A lot of congratz for ppl hitting 100, which tells me they are building something there. They went south with a reason and with the hope of EQ being a buffer for a while. Things are moving nicely for them right now. Good for them and I wish them good luck.
Gratz EQ on victory. I hear you guys had about 10 rank8 casters in TW? That ain't much now, but anyway , if that's true, maybe someone should learn something from a defeat...lol. I kinda' remember not so long ago when Surfer's presence in TW dramatically increased winning chances. And that was just 1 wizard, true, with a +12 wep, but still, only 1.0 -
MasterShi - Dreamweaver wrote: »Regenesis losing first real TW...
Someone in there must have a sad... I actually feel bad for BB on this one, I hope you get it right next time mate!
Andres, really, the arrogance from your first two posts on topic made me laugh on Sunday when I saw the TW outcome. Couldn't believe it actually, had to check twice the remaining TW and current map config. Tempest from what I see has a pretty good plan ahead. A lot of congratz for ppl hitting 100, which tells me they are building something there. They went south with a reason and with the hope of EQ being a buffer for a while. Things are moving nicely for them right now. Good for them and I wish them good luck.
Gratz EQ on victory. I hear you guys had about 10 rank8 casters in TW? That ain't much now, but anyway , if that's true, maybe someone should learn something from a defeat...lol. I kinda' remember not so long ago when Surfer's presence in TW dramatically increased winning chances. And that was just 1 wizard, true, with a +12 wep, but still, only 1.
b:surrenderif only he knew....Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »On a personal note, will an Equinox officer please post to say if they care about small guilds owning land, or if they don't care, thanks. I'll definitely be fine if you care about trying to dominate the whole map and not let the low guilds fight each other, as long as you come out and say it first. Because then, I'll treat TW with an entirely different perspective.
Hi DS, let me start by saying I really really dislike posting on the PWI forums. Too much drama, word twisting, trolling etc ... for my liking but I did want to answer your question. EQ's goal as it relates to TW is posted on the home page of the EQ Website (www.equinox-dw.com) and you do not need to be logged in to see it. It has been there for quite some time. It states:
Equinox respects the TW dynamics on Dreamweaver and will at no time hold more than 50% of the map. This is our commitment to the server to maintain an open-opportunity for current and future players to participate in TW as an end-game experience not limited to 200 people.
I hope this answers your question.0 -
MasterShi - Dreamweaver wrote: »Andres, really, the arrogance from your first two posts on topic made me laugh...
This is nothing new. He cracks me up too b:chuckleProving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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Utopia - Dreamweaver wrote: »Hi DS, let me start by saying I really really dislike posting on the PWI forums. Too much drama, word twisting, trolling etc ... for my liking but I did want to answer your question. EQ's goal as it relates to TW is posted on the home page of the EQ Website (www.equinox-dw.com) and you do not need to be logged in to see it. It has been there for quite some time. It states:
Equinox respects the TW dynamics on Dreamweaver and will at no time hold more than 50% of the map. This is our commitment to the server to maintain an open-opportunity for current and future players to participate in TW as an end-game experience not limited to 200 people.
I hope this answers your question.
So uh, If Regenesis and Tempest own a good portion of the map you'll still 'respect' *cough* TW dynamics by attacking small factions like Kindrid, Bushido, EpicPhail. Wanting 50% of the map still doesn't respect TW dynamics. Do you know why? Imagine if two factions had this TW 'respecting' dynamic in their factions. Then what happens is, 2 super powers on the map, low lv. factions off the map getting rolled in 5 minutes. Maybe you don't see how bad your policy is on owning 50% of the map. Especially if you're going to bid vs. signigicantly Smaller factions each week.[SIGPIC]http://a.imageshack.us/img714/9433/testoz.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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Hazumu - Dreamweaver wrote: »Here's an interesting question. Can anyone name a faction that WOULD NOT take the whole map, if they had and knew they had the ability and strength for it?
^This.
+1000Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »So uh, If Regenesis and Tempest own a good portion of the map you'll still 'respect' *cough* TW dynamics by attacking small factions like Kindrid, Bushido, EpicPhail. Wanting 50% of the map still doesn't respect TW dynamics. Do you know why? Imagine if two factions had this TW 'respecting' dynamic in their factions. Then what happens is, 2 super powers on the map, low lv. factions off the map getting rolled in 5 minutes. Maybe you don't see how bad your policy is on owning 50% of the map. Especially if you're going to bid vs. signigicantly Smaller factions each week.
Guess I should have known better than to answer a PWI post and expect a mature "unhostile" response. My last post on this subject and you're welcome for the answer. Best of luck to you Ds. Take care!0 -
Utopia - Dreamweaver wrote: »It states:
Equinox respects the TW dynamics on Dreamweaver and will at no time hold more than 50% of the map.
it reminds me HALF joke0
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