Most Deadly?

Most deadly can be every class if it is played the right way...
It doesn't help if you're a sin but can't play your class *sigh*

Besides that, I'd say Barbs bc of the massive HP

Clerics, selfheal... Played a Cleric once, with 20k HP unbuffed with pure INT No Barb or BM could stand a chance *giggle*

And I think Sins can be very nasty... This Stealth-Thing, demon-sparked from behind without noticing it before you're dead...

I think both tideborn classes are dangerous.... But I don't know... I havn't experienced level 105 yet.... XD

You guys must have insane hacks if you're able to arma in tiger form.

Assassin of course lol

If i would spot a lvl 105 with full +12 (no matter class) i would most likely just press Holy Path and gtfo to safezone like everyone else. Any class beside assassin cant really be that deadly since you will see them on T and a little green dots coming towards you <.<

Endgame Barb for example would be a monster at 105 fighting 1v1, but its a mele class without ranged stuns. Majority of players would just run away before the barb even got into damage range - because they know they wouldn't stand a freaking chance.

Assassins how ever you cant see, you're suddenly stunned/sealed/occult iced and dead. You dont have a chance to prepare since you dont know when they're about to attack. They can even wait next to you in stealth and watch til you used a pvp-pot or a genie skill, so they know when everything is on cool-down and you cant defend yourself. Sins choose when the fight starts and they chose when it ends, making them way more deadly at 105 than any other class.

Not from me or related to pwi, just thought it was hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyHV1P9ahSc

'Most deadly'. Very nice post topic, makes one think a bit. We can all agree that any class all +12 is going to be deadly to us normal buggers, but who is actually most death-causing (deadly). Below I have some thoughts, sorted by class.

Barbarian.
-deadly zone ~0-12meters
-We can all agree that 50k hp arma will one shot just about everybody except other all 12+ people. This makes barbarians extremely deadly if you are within melee range. However, using armagedon is not guaranteed death . If you are aware of what arma looks like, the barb character kinda crouches, squeezes belly inward, golden light starts to emanate, and then annihilating energy. I have, on multiple occasions, absolute domained these, cuz I know what the signs are. Barb enters area, comes to the middle of the crowd, you see the animation starting > press absolute domain on genie. Barb has just lost 2 sparks and 50% (or 35%) or hp, and my little **** is still alive.
-Barbs have a level 100 skill which freezes you from far away, but it has a very long cooldown, and the barb still has to get closer to kill you (unless beastial onslaught is enough to one shot you... and yeah, sage beastial onslaught won't miss).
-Using genie skill 'expel' can make you immune to just about all of barbs attacks. Firestorm/Poison Fang won't be enough magic dmg to kill you while you are expelled, so you can often make a getaway.
-Verdict: deadly close up, but not dangerous from far away (jump into air/holy path away) [don't try to outrun a barb on the ground or you are just asking for it, lol]. Also virtually impossible for almost any other class to kill solo, with the possible exception of a lucky crit from a wiz when hp is near 1/2, or from a 5aps sin.


Veno
-deadly zone: 0-10m (fox); 0-27meters (human form)
-Ranged stun
-a heavy armor variety will be able to get in close and purge your buffs, and with a +12 weapon, anything they throw at you will hurt like hell.
-Nix... not as effective as it was in the level 90s. Useless against barbs and high-hp bms.
-Single-element magic attack; genie can make you immune if you see a veno start to channel an attack against you.
-Verdict: deadly if they get first attack on you; demon veno has good surviveability with switch to fox form & 60% increased speed. Also demon ironwood scarab could **** over your physical defense leaving you, literally, defenseless. Basically, venos have a lot of random skill effects which, if they proc, will cause you trouble; +12 dmg on top of that is not good. That being said, not as deadly as some other classes I'll mention.

Archer
-deadly zone: 0-30meters
-very long range; range stun
-expect lots of painful crits, delivered with both magic and physical dd
-claws up close make them deadly up close as well
-with archers, they are deadly in more scenarios that barb, since in a crowded area, they can hit you from far away with both physical and magical attacks (range = you don't notice them right away) A +12 boa will quickly kill anything caught within it.
-caveat: all magic damage (well almost all) is metal. Thus, a genie immunity can be created via 'Heart of Steel'. However, you cannot prevent attacks from hitting you completely unless you use an apoth, or absolute domain. That is, if you use expel, archer will use metal attacks; if you use metal immunity skill, if the archer is smart, they'll use physical dd.
-More deadly than barbarian or veno in more situations, though also squishier.

Cleric
-a +12 heal is a whole freakin lot of heal. Us ordinary mortals trying to outhit a cleric healing him/herself are going to be in trouble when: enough heals have stacked, cleric sleeps, and then here comes a one-hit tempest. And trust you me, a +12 tempest will definitely one hit you
-caveat: all significant damage from cleric is metal-only. Genie immunity is easily obtained using heart of steel. Also, clerics do not have the range of an archer, and they have no stuns (anti-sleep skills also available, unless the cleric in question has the lvl 100 skill seal of the gods... in which case a cleric uses that, sleeps you near the end of the seal of the gods (15s for that), and then does the 1 hit combo. But again, genie immunity is a problem; tempest channeling is very noticeable, so using absolute domain to avoid the damage and then holy pathing away is a good strategy.
Verdict: better surviveability than archer or veno, but less deadly due to the genie measures that can be taken against them. Clerics and barbs similar in deadliness, though barb surviveability and spike damage output tops what a cleric can do.

Blademaster
-deadly zone: 0-16meters
-a truly well-rounded blademaster with multiple +10 or +12 weapons will be a very deadly opponent, given the number of stuns/debuffs available to them. Next to sins, bms capable of the most dps; stun + claw attack is a simple yet highly effective strategy for a bm.
-multiple long-range melee attacks, and many many aoes means they can do great damage to one or many targets
-caveat: bms have some magic damage available to them, yet not enough to kill effectively. Expel can be used to effectively keep oneself safe from many bms attacks, allowing you to jump & fly away, or holy path afterwards (assuming you have a really good genie). As well, a similar problem to that which barbs face: from 20+meter range, you are effectively safe.
Verdict: more deadly than barb; less deadly than archer in situations where range is important, though more deadly up close than cleric, veno, or archer (a bm claws hit more than archer using claws; and bm have more phy def than an archer [archer using claws against bm using claws is at disadvantage])

Wizards
-deadly zone 0-30meters
-the one-hit master. Genie immunity is impossible, since one genie can't feasibly defend from 3 elemental damage (also wiz have some physical dd attacks) at once. With a combination of various temporary magical-attack increase buffs, very strong magic debuffs, and very-hard-hitting 2 spark skills, wiz can & do one shot every other class, including barbs, given the right conditions. Absolute can protect from a 1-shot attack...if you are lucky enough to see the wiz begin the attack. Only an assassin can survive a one hit (yes, I had to bring that up) but assuming assassin isn't buffed, which actually happens quite a bit, nobody is safe from wiz
-essential sutra: maybe you got lucky & didn't die from the first attack: enter sleeps, seals and stuns (seal being the most important, since bms/barb/sins all have stun-resist skills,b ut nothing against seals). Actually, forget sutra; most wiz who can challenge me in a fight use channeling apoths; save the chi for something like mountain's seize. If the skill itself doesn't one-shot you, the next couple delivered with lightning-fast channeling will do the trick
-caveat? Not many. Nobody is safely from a wiz; against other arcanes, wiz have blade tempest (btw, in tests, blade tempest hits a light-armor assassin with high phy def than magic def, harder than BIDS does)
Verdict: More deadly than barb, veno, and cleric; as deadly or more deadly than archer in many cases, due to the one-shot factor

Psychics:
-deadly zone 0-28.5meters
-somebody mentioned soulforce. A psychic all +12 will have an enormous soul force, and if they cast that funny spell on you, any skill you do will cause you to take freakin huge damage. The only way to survive is purify, if cleric, or triple spark, if anybody else. Or use absolute domain > speed apoth > run until spell wears off
-thats just one of the things a psy can do. If you don't have stun resist of some sort, you'll be in major trouble. Every time you hit the psy, or psy hits you, expect to have many sleeps & stuns popping up
-psy have water and earth damage; genie immunity for a short time is possible but not highly feasible. Psy hit faster than wiz but less hard; however, due to a skill that increases charm cooldown time, they get longer to dps away on you with magic attacks
-physical attacks of some sort too I think, bleed spells, makes psy deadly against other arcanes
-with black voodoo, they can also hit significantly harder, though still not as hard as wiz
(wiz better dph; psy better dps, usually)
Verdict: I haven't had enough experience dealing with psy to make a proper verdict. More deadly than melee from far away (+12meters, mostly). If stun times really were 15 seconds, a psy will be very deadly indeed. Probably more deadly than veno and cleric, with comparable deadliness to archer, and slightly less deadly than wiz. Even if a wiz gets stunned attacking a psy, it wouldn't matter if the psy ended up 1-hit. Just sayin.

Assassin
-deadly range; deadliest in melee; with bow 20 meters; with teleport, possibly 35meter (demon) deadly range
-stealth. All other classes have this caveat: you *can* see them coming (not to say you will, but its a possibility). With a barb or wiz channeling something, you at least have a second or two to react; this is not possible with a sin. And I obviously don't have +12 daggers, but I'm gonna bet a deep chill, double spark headhunt (2 spark stun) is going to one hit most normal people.
-many stuns, sleeps, seals, and related debuffs. Teleport to keep up with a wizzie who is also teleporting
-Hands down highest dps in game. +attack level sins have been known to kill barbs who invoked
-caveat: all of a sins damage is physical. That means *if* you don't get one shot, then you have a chance to escape using genie skill 'expel'.
-range: if sin is not in stealth, they cannot damage you effectively outside of melee, but they can teleport right to you at any time, thus extending a sins deadly range to 30m (35 if demon).
Verdict: Sins are more deadly than any other class in more situations, using dps to quickly kill you from stealth before you can react.

Deadly scale, starting from least deadly to most deadly.

Venos (least)
Clerics
Archer/Barb/Bms/Psychic (can't decide how to order these)
Wiz
Assassin (most)

Disclaimer: This is all my opinion


Azzazin

Azzazin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Psychics:
-deadly zone 0-28.5meters
-somebody mentioned soulforce. A psychic all +12 will have an enormous soul force, and if they cast that funny spell on you, any skill you do will cause you to take freakin huge damage. The only way to survive is purify, if cleric, or triple spark, if anybody else. Or use absolute domain > speed apoth > run until spell wears off
-thats just one of the things a psy can do. If you don't have stun resist of some sort, you'll be in major trouble. Every time you hit the psy, or psy hits you, expect to have many sleeps & stuns popping up
-psy have water and earth damage; genie immunity for a short time is possible but not highly feasible. Psy hit faster than wiz but less hard; however, due to a skill that increases charm cooldown time, they get longer to dps away on you with magic attacks
-physical attacks of some sort too I think, bleed spells, makes psy deadly against other arcanes
-with black voodoo, they can also hit significantly harder, though still not as hard as wiz
(wiz better dph; psy better dps, usually)
Verdict: I haven't had enough experience dealing with psy to make a proper verdict. More deadly than melee from far away (+12meters, mostly). If stun times really were 15 seconds, a psy will be very deadly indeed. Probably more deadly than veno and cleric, with comparable deadliness to archer, and slightly less deadly than wiz. Even if a wiz gets stunned attacking a psy, it wouldn't matter if the psy ended up 1-hit. Just sayin.Azzazin

Seems like it, because if you had you'd know that Soulburn cannot be purified, not by Purify nor 3-spark.

And also, I don't think a wiz could 1-shot a full +12 Psychic using WV, but could easily 1-shot him/herself on SoV and SoR combo. Since those are not affected by attack-lvl and only Soulforce, and physical defense.

The new race is called the Earthguard, The 2 new classes are the Seeker and Mystic. b:lipcurl

omg someone voted for veno. someone call for help I'm having a heart attack b:shocked

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

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k nevermind Arma taking only 0.4s to channel. If you see the golden light you're too late brah.

when i used to play my archer i could easily avoid arma by triple sparking easy as well, then you'd see a dead barb of course. b:chuckle

but now my sin can kill barbs through arma/ invoke b:laugh

Stun lockers > everyone else. Stun locking is OP.

Spark burst is OP (I have spark I, know what I am talking about)

Venoes > Everyone else... They do purge OP spark and have their pet making 5.0 chars void. + they always have better APS than every other class combined with pet.

Venoes are boring to play.

Also LVL105, does not mean anything. Pointless to cap (First person capped in a long time) in another game I used to play. 100+ people were capped to max lvl (idk if it is still 105). XD

...Why the HELL would anyone vote for the new classes?

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

...Why the HELL would anyone vote for the new classes?

. . They assuming the power level too fast b:chuckle

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

...Why the HELL would anyone vote for the new classes?

caqsue they are better psychics than you

</lame psychic joke>