sage beastial onslaught

Several hundred attempts... No zerks.
The increased channeling is already a bit much, did they really have to make it so that it can't zerk as well?

Yeah I was the wizard that was being the test dummy over and over . . . my poor armor. Over an HOUR and still no zerk, yet everything else would zerk like crazy. Either sage bestial onslaught is glitched, or Dysprosium is very very unlucky.

I think Armageddon is the same way, I have never had a sac-assault activation with it, and I have tested it on many a chicken.

Psychic forums are deader than wiz forums.

volst wrote: »

Psychic forums are deader than wiz forums.

cause wizzies qq about psys? b:avoid

ah, i checked the veno forum, it's not posted there b:laugh

Lets see if a bit of math can help us.

Beastial onslaught has an 8 second cooldown. Lets say you used it 5 times a minute (once every 12 seconds) for ease of calculation. In an hour, that would mean you used it 5*60 times (300 times).

I'm not entirely sure how often you get a zerk; I've heard 5%, 10%, and 20%. Lets assume worst case, 5% chance. I'm fairly certain its higher, but just sayin, if it were 5%:

5% = 0.05; 0.05*300 = 15. If zerk chance is 20%, that would be 15*4 = 60 times. If, as you say, you did not see any zerks, there are a couple possibilites.

(a) you are extremely unlucky. I don't know much about statistics, but expecting to see 15, and seeing none, is well over a P value of 0.05, thus, statistically significant. Given the number of trials you apparently performed, I find this idea lacking.

(b) there is a problem specific to your character. I've seen bugs occur character-specific before. If you suspect this may be the problem, then submit a ticket (btw, spamming the same topic in multiple forums, not cool). However, since your called in another sage barb and got him to use the skill as well, this answer is also lacking.

(c) a problem with the skill itself. This could be dividied into two things:
1) weapon procs do not occur using the skill 'beastial onslaught'. That is to say, weapon adds like 'stun 3 seconds' or 'zerk' or 'pierce' (any affect) won't occur. So far you have only tested zerk. Get a weapon with a different status effect and test various skills with it, and keep a log of # of times the status effect occurs (eg: normal hits, skill 1, skill 2, skill 3, beastial onslaught).
2) weapon proc 'sacrificial strike' does not occur properly with beastial onslaught (only sacrifical strike).
In this case, your best bet is still submitting a ticket.

(d) skills that do not miss have hidden downsides (a glitch, or intentional)
1) skills that have 100% accuracy do not have weapon procs occur. Same as c1 (above).
2) skills that have 100% accuracy will not have a sacrificial assault strike. This can also be tested: find a demon barb with the skill "Stomp of the Beast King". Actually come to think of it, Mighty Swing and Flesh Ream have 100% accuracy as well. Test to see if these skills zerk or not.

Further information could be deciphered by finding other sage barbs and getting their input. If we get more information supporting theories (c) or (d), these is something that would be nice to hear from the GMs about. Again, submitting a ticket is probably the best approach.

And again, spamming different forum sections? Not cool. Really.

Cheers,

Azzazin

Just tested with barb friend; tried about 50 times with no zerk on beastial onslaught. Hardly conclusive, but its evidence nonetheless. Friend says he'll submit a ticket, and I may just do the same.

Azzazin

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Armageddon can zerk.

Really? Guess I will have to keep trying it, was prolly just unlucky. I do know that 100% skills do activate, as Mighty Swing and Flesh Ream seem to work just fine for me (sometimes too well). It's the AoEs that seem to have a lower activation chance for me.

hope you barb friend doesnt buy packs b:surrender

Why not just get in a cata and zerk your way to the otehr base...

I've tested the skill as well, and sadly it doesn't proc. with Sacrifical Assault axes. Everyday I come closer and closer to turning my barbarian into demon or to almost stop playing it. Maybe once my mates cultivations are finally over in Delta.

Blade_aether - Lost City wrote: »

*Update*

So I tried again with all 100% accuracy skills and different wep procs.

I tried Gloom, Zerk, Provoke, and Nimble.

Sacrificial Strike has a 19% occurrence, or likelihood.

I was able to get all skills to makes these proc's occur except 11 Onslaught, My real counting only started with Sacrificial Strike though.

Lvl 10 Flesh Ream x 200 = 43 zerks and 19 crits.

Lvl 11 Mighty Swing x 200 = 29 zerks and 25 crits.

Lvl 10 Penetrate Armor x 200 = 38 zerks and 22 crits. (statistically exact lol)

Lvl 11 Stomp of the B.King x 200 = 37 zerks and 20 crits.

Lvl 11 Slam x 200 = 41 zerks and 12 crits.

Lvl 11 Garrotte x 200 = 39 zerks and 13 crits.

Lvl 11 Alacrity of the Beast x 200 = 38 zerks and 22 crits.

Lvl 11 Surf Impact x 200 = 36 zerks and 21 crits.

Lvl 11 Beastial Onslaught x 300 = 0 zerks and 31 crits.

Notice a pattern? All 100% accuracy skills managed to zerk.

I was able to make all my damage skills EXCEPT for Sage B.O proc with every other proc with 2-10 tries.

This took me several hours. Please respect the time I took. Please fix this skill.


Blade_Aether
Potentially wasting his time.

Well this blows but just look to what happened to bramble on venos: doesn't work, has been reported for years, and was never fixed.

Unfortanly this won't get fixed either b:angry

The only purpose for choosing Sage these days is really to pull a cat though...I mean if Sage Onslaught could zerk...I still wouldn't pick Sage considering...Demon Onslaught...and other skills

Like I said it should be fixed but...IJS

wow Quilue you dont find your logic to be a little bit flawed here? Discussing cultivation in a bug tread?

Seriously if one of your core PVP skills didnt crit on the cultivation you took it wouldnt bother you?

Adroit +1