If fist/claw didn't exist...
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... What would your dps weapon be? Dragon's bite? Nirvana blade? a Magic sword?
And no rerolling as a sin. b:scorn
And no rerolling as a sin. b:scorn
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If no fist/claws?
I'd be using TT100 blade/sword.0 -
End-game wise...
Single sword or pole with -int or Quicken (if there was no -int either).
If that happened I would reroll a sin, even though you said it was not an option. b:chuckle100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
pwcalc.com/e7016929e7b204ae "Pure axe" 8k HP multipath BM, last one of my kind.0 -
Before when interval items still not so much, people say fist / claw is useless.
Because defeated on both damage output even if the aps mod is highest but the damage is so low.
(except for skill interrupt)
Every BM would go Axe, Polearm, Sword before . . . b:infuriated
I remember seeing a proud fist / claw BM even when all his comrades avoid using fist / claw . . because he like martial arts. b:worried
But after more interval gear released . . . b:avoid[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
Nickname doesn't have anything to do with sailor but related to a folklore
Use search, it was your best friends to avoid many suffering in internet...0 -
Before -interval gear, 10x BMs rerolled to venos or archers to PvE. b:byeI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0
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Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »Before -interval gear, 10x BMs rerolled to venos or archers to PvE. b:bye
Farming 4 pieces of tt99 gear, farming lunar for decide and mantle of radiance, and pangu tome would still be useless considering every BM went sage.AP classes are a real butt pounding...0 -
How the **** did "every BM went sage" when demon axes skills are clearly superior?0
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Well, as far as i've noticed, Sage and Demon's different naturally from defensive and survivatability (for sages) to offensive and attack speed (for demons)
It sure does make sence that most fist/claw bm's go Demon. And not only for their atk speed, but also 9 sec HF >_>0 -
Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »How the **** did "every BM went sage" when demon axes skills are clearly superior?
because 50 chi a minute and 15% more from bell made their panties wet
oh and people are stupid
<~ went demon for pole procs and stuns+mag marrowGifs are hard to make work here0 -
if the 5.0 wasn't possible with fists, I'd still be playing my barb :P
but IF I decided to play a bm anyway, I'd prolly use a pole with sacrifical strike for pk, and axes for pve0 -
Fenian_I - Dreamweaver wrote: »if the 5.0 wasn't possible with fists, I'd still be playing my barb :P
but IF I decided to play a bm anyway, I'd prolly use a pole with sacrifical strike for pk, and axes for pve
That's only if you went sage and have sage farstrike. Demon bms have poles for cancel demon gs. Other then that, it's hard to kill a heavy armor toon with only pole.Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »because 50 chi a minute and 15% more from bell made their panties wet
oh and people are stupid
<~ went demon for pole procs and stuns+mag marrow
Don't forget that Sage Drake Sweep/Aoelian Blade/Highland with Sage Axe Mastery with one of those people who +10's Calamities give Sage BMs orgasms.Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »How the **** did "every BM went sage" when demon axes skills are clearly superior?
If I was a pure axe bm, I would still rather go demon then sage.AP classes are a real butt pounding...0 -
BMs went sage because back then having 1 or 2 of your level 11 skills would make you incredible in most cases. Not like these times, where if you DON'T have most of your level 11 skills you can't even be considered mediocre.
And since level 11 skills were so rare and not a factor most people could include in deciding on which path to go, sage spark > demon spark for TW and +50 chi > -50 chi for the opponent in PVP.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Still trying to move your cursor, eh?0 -
Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »BMs went sage because back then having 1 or 2 of your level 11 skills would make you incredible in most cases. Not like these times, where if you DON'T have most of your level 11 skills you can't even be considered mediocre.
And since level 11 skills were so rare and not a factor most people could include in deciding on which path to go, sage spark > demon spark for TW and +50 chi > -50 chi for the opponent in PVP.
^^ this.
Everyone went sage for +50 chi and maybe getting sage buff.
Getting more than a few of your lvl 11 skills was considered impossible back then.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
If the game was a more balanced, I would probably sage Anything. In my eyes, what good is attack speed when my weapon could give me a speed boost almost the same, as well as spark not only giving me more attack power, but higher defenses as well. And lets add on the fact that Sage mastery increases attack power, not just add a crit percentage.
But then again, no one watnts to hear anything about Sage. Most people have it in thier heads to " demon demon demon DEMON!"b:shutup[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Some of us arent looking for anything logical, like money.
We cannot be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with.
We just want to see the world burn...0 -
Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »because 50 chi a minute and 15% more from bell made their panties wet
oh and people are stupid
<~ went demon for pole procs and stuns+mag marrow
Or because the 50 chi a minute and 15% defence actually made sense considering back in the day a lot of endgame BM's went heavy-vit axe for TW. A TW BM's main role used to be survivability and keeping mass groups of opponents locked. TW started at 85-90+ and little squishy 5k BM's with gold bracers and mediocre axes had no place back then.
Also before -int mattered, sage was the first choice for a BM who wasn't planning on splashing much money into the game on skills. I actually agree demon is the superior choice, but sage was extremely viable a year or two ago. But some people are too stupid to realize that.0 -
_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Or because the 50 chi a minute and 15% defence actually made sense considering back in the day a lot of endgame BM's went heavy-vit axe for TW. A TW BM's main role used to be survivability and keeping mass groups of opponents locked. TW started at 85-90+ and little squishy 5k BM's with gold bracers and mediocre axes had no place back then.
Also before -int mattered, sage was the first choice for a BM who wasn't planning on splashing much money into the game on skills. I actually agree demon is the superior choice, but sage was extremely viable a year or two ago. But some people are too stupid to realize that.
Yes, it was a reasonable choice but many "older" players (you should know what I mean, the ones that had aps builds before PWI) always though hell > heaven. 50 chi helped of course, especially before genies. Stunning does take quite a bit of chi, especially when you don't regen it quickly enough. 15% defence is nice but I don't think sage bell used to be any cheaper back then.
And not like people had better gear back then; in fact, complete opposite. No (cheap) flawless/immac shards was the biggest issue. Around +100 vit does make a difference though.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
pwcalc.com/e7016929e7b204ae "Pure axe" 8k HP multipath BM, last one of my kind.0 -
Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »always thought hell > heaven.
because it is. 50 chi a minute is nothing compared to what you could get simply hitting. but, as said, people early on in pwi(even those from myen) were nubs. most of the people who came here from myen were just low levels trying to dominate in a new server because they failed in the old(examples: pandora, and that **** who invented 'full attack clerics'). but that was just my observation in the months I managed to play here back then.
it's still like this today, funny enough. who farms their skills anymore? $45 might buy them all. b:bye0
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