Stop Buy Tiger Packs!!!!
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it would be naive to believe that drops from packs are totally random.. pwe is srs corporation.. and they are not monitored like some national lottery..
this company is feeding their children, buying their houses/boats/cars/helicopters..
yeah, they control it..0 -
I don't think I will be buying anymore. $50 bucks and I was really dissapointed. 2 single items other than tokens:1 plat HP charm and 1 diamond of tiger which thanks to the blessings are basically worthless at the moment.
On another note the economy on Harshlands is pretty brutal right now. I think the game needs a break from the packs. Sadly I don't see that happening.0 -
Least it's not as bad as PW-MY. Their approach to the gold farming problem was to legitimise it, and put "Buy Gold Now!" links all over the place. Massive inflation, and destroyed economy.
Although I suppose it did end up stabilising the price of gold at about what it's now here. And I suppose being able to buy a pack which gives a note which gives money is pretty similar.0 -
Now go donate more and more so I can play.0
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Mirko - Raging Tide wrote: »it would be naive to believe that drops from packs are totally random.. pwe is srs corporation.. and they are not monitored like some national lottery..
this company is feeding their children, buying their houses/boats/cars/helicopters..
yeah, they control it..
I think it would be fair to say that the outcome is determined by a pseudo random number generator to approximate a pre-defined distribution. So technically, not truly random, you are correct.
However, I would suspect that believing PWI cares enough about certain people to give them higher or lower outcomes, rather than just setting the overall chance, and letting probability do the rest, would be counted as paranoid.0 -
Aalpeculea - Sanctuary wrote: »Today, I bought around 400 tiger packs, and when I open them all. Guess what??? I only get 2 best of luck and one tiger mount!!!!
opened 150 got 2 scripts of fate in first 20b:bye0 -
I decided to stop buying packs after roughly0
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lol 400 dollars lol..LOLOLOLLLLL ...you al lwho spend that much serioulsy..need to be checked into rehab.0
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ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear wrote: »lol 400 dollars lol..LOLOLOLLLLL ...you al lwho spend that much serioulsy..need to be checked into rehab.
Tell that to the most 'famous' cs-whoar on LC, Shinzoko, he could've probably gotten about 6 warsouls by now with how much he has spent0 -
some said that ppl that dont know math should be punished. so pan gu made packsb:bye0
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TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »Some friend on my server opens 3 packs a day , no matter what .
Another one said that there are only ( usually ) so much items given out per day on a server thus it's best to open at server reset .
I only opened a small number of packs ( prolly 100ish ) in my whole time on PWI and I've come out in - all the time .
While I know it's a small number of packs whenever I gambled on 'em I loose profit and whenever I just farm steadily all's good . But there's that damn temptation when you see some random lvl 8x that just started 1 month ago get rich in a few clicks .
Some say it's the location where they open them , the numbers they open at a time ( thought I found this to be the least trustworthy ) .
And just when I finally accepted the fact that it's all luck , seeing the same ppl get good items from packs all the time (and yes I ask how many packs they open and what they get from them ) and make a profit most of the time really makes me believe that there's a trick to it .
I opend my packs at server reset0 -
after so many packs i learned to stay away from them but hard to resist when i kitty shop says "CHEAP TIGER PACKS" b:surrender i just put my coins in bank and always carry 200k so i wont have enough to buy crappy packs <.>[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
The greatest danger for most of us
is not that our aim is too high
and we miss it
but that it's too low and
we reach it.
-Michelangelo0 -
It only takes an Idiot, to Gamble that much against a company that has 98% chance of wining versus your 2% .. hahaha .. This is like the amusement park sometimes. b:victory0
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It only takes an Idiot, to Gamble that much against a company that has 98% chance of wining versus your 2% .. hahaha .. This is like the amusement park sometimes. b:victory
were just humans Xd just the idea of being able to win something makes us wanne gamble some more then others[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
The greatest danger for most of us
is not that our aim is too high
and we miss it
but that it's too low and
we reach it.
-Michelangelo0 -
Tricannon - Dreamweaver wrote: »i dont see why ppl see getting pure tokens as a bad thing.....its good if u know wat to do. i typically try opening 10-20 packs per week depending on my cash situation. most the time i get tokens....but instead of QQ'ing about them i instead go turn them into skill books. trust me theres alot of skills that can easily come out to make u a hella lot of cash. just today i bought 20 packs....got nothing(go figure) so i was sitting with 300 tokens....well decided i would try doin a demon cleric book so go buy 150 more tokens to get 50 mystical pages...go make a demon cleric book...open it....and out pops a demon rez :O bam right there i got back the 9mil i spent on packs and tokens+ another 6-10mil.......thus proves my point getting all tokens can is also a very VERY good thing
The problem is that each pack you open has such a great chance of getting tokens, and if you don't make a good profit every time you run low on cash (which I am now) you have to start reselling the tokens, which I do, and therefore I quickly run out of cash to buy more tigers, or even gold from people. I just open about 30-40 (and that's not counting the countless others I have opened before that throughout the period of the damn packs) tiger packs in the past 4 hours or so, all of it ****ing tokens, and now I have less then 150k to my name. How in the hell am I going to more packs now. << =x
I know I am raging at the moment, but still. <<
The simple matter of fact is that it isn't always possible to make a better profit when you get tokens only, you can even get less money if you try to convert the tokens to something else. So you might just be better off just selling the tokens and trying your luck at the stupid piece of **** rip you off packs. << TT
In other words **** you tiger packs ... go to hell. <<
b:angry
Ill be sulking in my corner now. << b:cryb:angryAh, Mistakes are so easily made. ~ laura resnick
What kind of message are you sending when you insult my intelligence? ~ Me ~ 5/29/2015 (Yes it is possible someone said this before just no idea who/where.)0 -
My first pack was a scroll of tome.AP classes are a real butt pounding...0
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ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »My first pack was a scroll of tome.
why can't be me b:cry0 -
Aalpeculea - Sanctuary wrote: »Today, I bought around 400 tiger packs, and when I open them all. Guess what??? I only get 2 best of luck and one tiger mount!!!!
you just made them 400$ richer... b:sad
if i had that much gold though i would first look at broker and see if they're selling the thing i wanted form a tiger pack prize.. if they have I'd really sell that 400 gold XD (or maybe half)
300,000(if its still somewhere at that price still) x 400 = 120,000,000...... woah o.o0 -
Echolight - Dreamweaver wrote: »you just made them 400$ richer... b:sad
if i had that much gold though i would first look at broker and see if they're selling the thing i wanted form a tiger pack prize.. if they have I'd really sell that 400 gold XD (or maybe half)
300,000(if its still somewhere at that price still) x 400 = 120,000,000...... woah o.o
More than 300k. It's something like 600k on HT at the moment.0 -
Gold is somewhere around 580k~ish in DW, I think. I kind of looked this morning
But honestly, you knew the risks. I would've saved all that dough and converted it to gold instead, maybe a fourth or less, or bought something that was a big money earner, like mounts or something, sold them, or just skip straight to cat shops. Just sayin.0 -
Spending 400 bucks on packs? LOL you surely have nothing else to do...
I'd rather get a herc + nix and roll a veno for profit with those $400, it pays off on higher lvls. b:byeWTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.0 -
Me and RainbowVidel have both stopped buying anything from PWI. Wasted way too much money as it is. We both swore never to spend real money for an online game ever again.Somewhat retired from PWI, now playing Hellgate Global full time0
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Acording to a simulator somone posted on forums, if you are willing to charge some $3800 you could get around 5000 packs. If you open those you should make more money than if you sold the gold though AH. I say this because I have noticed that if you open just 100, you will most likely loose money, but with 5k packs you almost always win.0
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Azura - Lost City wrote: »Acording to a simulator somone posted on forums, if you are willing to charge some $3800 you could get around 5000 packs. If you open those you should make more money than if you sold the gold though AH. I say this because I have noticed that if you open just 100, you will most likely loose money, but with 5k packs you almost always win.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »You take math classes you really need it.
97% mean, that you get 97 times tokens from 100 packs, BUT in 100 packs you should get 3 non tokens items(or token of best luck).
So from 400 packs he should get 12 non tokens items(or best luck tokens). Just theoretically.
I already notice, that they changing probability to get something useful.
From what I heard from another players(how many packs they opened) probability is NOT 97%, but a lot less.
It is 97/100 + 97/100 not 97/100 * 97/100
It doesn't increase the chance of getting something better by buying more then one.
The only thing that gives you a better chance is the fact that tiger packs are 25% cheaper then normal packs. You get get 1 free for every 3 you buy.
The whole thing is luck. ^_^;
o.o oh~ I know a good way to put this in question form.
How many times have you dropped something after dieing as a blue/white named char?
1/100 times you die you drop something. Personally I died a good share of times to know I haven't drop anything yet. >.>Venomancers/Clerics rock![SIGPIC]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/110/1/5/Schrodinger_plz_by_McMonster_Ridgeback.gif[/SIGPIC]
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