So what lv to leave Tackling Slash?

rulas
rulas Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2010 in Assassin
at http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=553811&highlight=skill+guide&page=22

He says to max it but another guy at page 26 says to leave it at 1


So what's better

Also what lv should I leave punctured wound and slipstream strike???
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  • Bactine - Heavens Tear
    Bactine - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Leveling Tackling Slash increases the duration of the stun as well as the damage it deals. The damage from this skill is negligible compared to others, so it's primary use is for the stun effect. TBH, it's more effective as an immobilizer. Not sure if it's just my luck or not, but it rarely actually stuns the target to where they are both unable to run away AND attack back.

    It's a toss up. Early levels, takes you longer to kill things, so the longer stun is useful. However, later on, nothing will survive your onslaught long enough to outlast the stun duration of lvl 1 Tackling Slash.


    My puncture wound is at lvl 1. Good skill to interrupt casters, but the damage increase from leveling it is minimal.

    Slipstream is good at early levels for a big spike damage, but it becomes quickly forgotten about after lvl 50'ish or so. Mine's at 10, but you could get away with leaving it at 7 or so. By then you'll have replacement skills, and your std attack + bloodpaint becomes a more efficient way of DD'ing.

    All in all, try out a skill when you get it. If it works for you, then level it as you need. Don't limit your playstyle solely because of what someone else's experience with a skill is.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Max Tackling Slash.
  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Max Tackling Slash.

    Agreed. Mine is always maxed. Stun+damage+chi increase? b:dirty

    Oh and it cracks me up if people die from tackling slash, totally have done that by accident to a friend.
    b:victory
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    hmm people leave it at lvl 1 but use it to help chi build.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    hmm people leave it at lvl 1 but use it to help chi build.

    9 second freeze is essential for stopping runners, mobs or players.
  • rulas
    rulas Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    so u lv it as u lv as one of your top priority skills right along with rib and focus mind.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands wrote: »
    Agreed. Mine is always maxed. Stun+damage+chi increase? b:dirty

    Oh and it cracks me up if people die from tackling slash, totally have done that by accident to a friend.
    I once killed someone with lvl 1 Throatcutb:surrender
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    hmm people leave it at lvl 1 but use it to help chi build.
    Please just leave the sin section. You have no idea how to give proper advice on how to play a sin.
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    b:laugh Naw just read bad advise.
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  • Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Leave the level at 1 due to the low damage output. Use it to gain chi and to slow moving targets.

    Punture Wound is personal choice. You may keep it at level one, use it as an opening move, or use it like flesh ream to draw in incoming aggro.

    Max Slipstream Strike for it's high STAB Output. (One of the moves that make a Nuke ninja.)
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    b:laugh Naw just read bad advise.
    Seriously, you're making a fool of yourself. Just stop. It seems every class section always has that one weirdo/jerkbag/idiot/noob/flamer that goes around ruining it for everyone else. Right now, you are that person. Just stop, please.

    I'm not saying GTFO. I'm just saying stop giving advice on things you don't know about.
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Leave the level at 1 due to the low damage output. Use it to gain chi and to slow moving targets.
    Another one -facapalm-
    At your levels, I agree; lvl 1 or 2. But mid to high level, the longer immobilization duration becomes essential, not to mention it would be wise to level it to max out your damage. If you are going to sacrifice the 2-3 auto-attacks to use it for chi, why not make sure you do damage as close to or even equivalent to what those 2-3 attacks would have done?
    Same thing goes for Dragon Strike.
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  • Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    You need to chill dude. b:shocked

    If your interested informing people about the sin class, then make a guide.

    Well to put it bluntly, they never gived out there actual level. Furthemore, damage isn't everything it's about the role it plays in how you attack.

    How did Dragon Strike come into all this, stick to the thread. -.-;
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You need to chill dude. b:shocked

    If your interested informing people about the sin class, then make a guide.

    Guides have already been made, no need to make another. I never said anything about informing people about sins, I'm merely trying to get these people who think they know everything about sins to stop making posts. It's always one after another with these guys, and I've had it with them.
    it's not just this thread btw, kelsika has made many other incorrect statements in other threads.

    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Well to put it bluntly, they never gived out there actual level.
    Touche.
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Furthemore, damage isn't everything it's about the role it plays in how you attack.
    I'm fully aware of this. I'm not saying "don't get TS." I'm know how helpful it is and use it all the time. Besides, leveling it doesn't just increase it's damage; it also increases the duration of it's effect, meaning you have to use it less often, allowing you to focus more on damage dealing, increasing your damage output, and killing the enemy faster, keeping you alive more efficiently.


    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    How did Dragon Strike come into all this, stick to the thread. -.-;
    Dragon Strike is another DD skill that increases chi.
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Guides have already been made, no need to make another. I never said anything about informing people about sins, I'm merely trying to get these people who think they know everything about sins to stop making posts. It's always one after another with these guys, and I've had it with them.
    it's not just this thread btw, kelsika has made many other incorrect statements in other threads.

    your siggie still amuses me

    +1 postcount
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  • Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Well then just correct them by answering the question at hand.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »
    your siggie still amuses me

    +1 postcount

    b:victoryb:shy
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Well then just correct them by answering the question at hand.
    It was already answered. I have a pet peeve about answering already answered questions.
    Besides, I did. Read the second half of my post at the top of this pageb:laugh
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  • Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm fully aware of this. I'm not saying "don't get TS." I'm know how helpful it is and use it all the time. Besides, leveling it doesn't just increase it's damage; it also increases the duration of it's effect, meaning you have to use it less often, allowing you to focus more on damage dealing, increasing your damage output, and killing the enemy faster, keeping you alive more efficiently.

    I see your point tho I have no knowledge of its max duration hence I would rather keep with the current duration.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I see your point tho I have no knowledge of its max duration hence I would rather keep with the current duration.

    http://ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php for data on all classes' skills at each level.
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Guides have already been made, no need to make another. I never said anything about informing people about sins, I'm merely trying to get these people who think they know everything about sins to stop making posts. It's always one after another with these guys, and I've had it with them.
    it's not just this thread btw, kelsika has made many other incorrect statements in other threads.

    these people? I see your not a person. b:shocked

    As for giving false information, I am just giving my opinion on how much I know. If I am incorrect then prove that my answers are false.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    these people? I see your not a person. b:shocked
    I never claimed such a knowledge.
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    As for giving false information, I am just giving my opinion on how much I know. If I am incorrect then prove that my answers are false.

    Incorrect statements and false information are not necessarily the same thing.
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  • FanFon - Dreamweaver
    FanFon - Dreamweaver Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Rav_Remnant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Leave the level at 1 due to the low damage output. Use it to gain chi and to slow moving targets.

    Punture Wound is personal choice. You may keep it at level one, use it as an opening move, or use it like flesh ream to draw in incoming aggro.

    Max Slipstream Strike for it's high STAB Output. (One of the moves that make a Nuke ninja.)

    Lol fail since you got it backwards.

    You max tackling for the immobilizing effect.

    I don't even use puncture wound any more cause of fail damage.

    Slipstream also fails

    Level up a bit more before you post sin advice
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    FanFon - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Lol fail since you got it backwards.

    You max tackling for the immobilizing effect.

    I don't even use puncture wound any more cause of fail damage.

    Slipstream also fails

    Level up a bit more before you post sin advice
    Thank you. I'm not the only one who is peeved by this...
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    FanFon - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Lol fail since you got it backwards.

    You max tackling for the immobilizing effect.

    *facepalm* If you are in PvP where immobilize shines.

    I don't even use puncture wound any more cause of fail damage.

    Well it is a pending move. I'd use it for trying to Tank mobs.

    Slipstream also fails

    First off that is your opinion. Second, not bothering with sentence fragments. Finally Slipstream Strike is a great opening move, tho it yet again another pending move. Would be really useful to Nuke type Sins.

    Level up a bit more before you post sin advice

    I rather not mainly because you seem bossy and I would rather be a peev to you. b:victoryb:kissb:laugh

    As you can see I wrote in the quote so, may this sentence take up your ten character minimum limit.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    As you can see I wrote in the quote so, may this sentence take up your ten character minimum limit.
    It's 5 characters now...

    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    *facepalm* If you are in PvP where immobilize shines.
    Tackling Slash is needed in PvE for ranged/magic mobs.

    Well it is a pending move. I'd use it for trying to Tank mobs.
    How exactly?

    First off that is your opinion. Second, not bothering with sentence fragments. Finally Slipstream Strike is a great opening move, tho it yet again another pending move. Would be really useful to Nuke type Sins.
    She's talking mid to high level. Keep in mind that most talk in this section is talking about end and near end game

    I rather not mainly because you seem bossy and I would rather be a peev to you.
    You're starting to build a reputation as a troll, ijs.
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's 5 characters now...

    How exactly? From what I can guess, it has low output damage as does flesh ream. The bleeding is what holds aggro.

    Again I have nothing to go by since I don't know the thread holders level. I just assume a low level sin player.

    See me as whatever, I am not fund of people that seem to be rude.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    How exactly? From what I can guess, it has low output damage as does flesh ream. The bleeding is what holds aggro.
    Why would you want to tank as a low level sin...?b:surprised
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Umm the bleeding from FR is not what holds the aggro.
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why would you want to tank as a low level sin...?b:surprised

    ._. You crazy I'd **** myself. Tho I seen a Ocean Tucker solo-ed. Um, it's a end game skill and I also said might, not can. b:laugh
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Umm the bleeding from FR is not what holds the aggro.

    What I was just about to say. Thank you.
    Flesh Ream holds aggro because it has that mechanic, not because it bleeds.
    If you look at the info of Puncture Wound, it does not say "Rip the enemy's flesh drawing their aggression onto you" as Flesh Ream does.
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What I was just about to say. Thank you.
    Flesh Ream holds aggro because it has that mechanic, not because it bleeds.
    If you look at the info of Puncture Wound, it does not say "Rip the enemy's flesh drawing their aggression onto you" as Flesh Ream does.


    DoT (Damage over time) holds aggro control

    Like how bramble makes mobs come after you.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    DoT (Damage over time) holds aggro control

    Like how bramble makes mobs come after you.

    Puncture wound is too weak and too short a DoT with too long a casting time to make it an effective aggro keeper. You're better off just auto attacking (mid to high level that is).
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