Best Budget Destops/laptops For Pwi Online

Tank_U_VM - Lost City
Tank_U_VM - Lost City Posts: 8 Arc User
edited October 2010 in Off-Topic Discussion
mkay, computer moron here. Thinking of replacing my dinosaur desktop. I always buy the super cheap desktops and they seem to generally run PWI well enough, but I do occasionally get a fair amount of lag in TW and west arch, etc.

Sooooo, just wondering if anyone recently purchased a cheapo desktop or laptop that seems to be running pwi well (even if on medium settings) or if anyone who knows more than me (not hard) knows where I can pick up a decent puter for pwi for $300-$400.

If you find one online, paste the link in your reply if you can.

Or gimme your opinion of these options:

A. http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/view.2/app.detail/params.item.E218155.desc.Toshiba-Satellite-C-156-Notebook-AMD-V120-2GB-320GB-HD

B. http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/view.2/app.detail/params.item.E219780.desc.ZT-Element-2135Ni-Dual-Core-Celeron-E3400-4GBRAM-500GB-HD

C. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146771

D. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883114091

E. http://electronics.hsn.com/acer-15-6-lcd-dual-core-3gb-ram-320gb-hdd-laptop-computer-with-webcam_p-6185031_xp.aspx?webm_id=0&web_id=6185031&sf=ec&dept=ec0027&cat=ec0033&ocm=ec|ec0027|ec0033&prev=hp!sf!dept!cat&ccm=ec|ec0027|ec0033

F. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/eMachines+-+Desktop+/+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+X2+Processor+/+4GB+Memory+/+500GB+Hard+Drive/1243045.p?id=1218240384822&skuId=1243045

Thanks!
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  • Thrasymachus - Sanctuary
    Thrasymachus - Sanctuary Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I recently got the cheapest laptop at walmart (laptop not netbook) and it plays the game just fine. I think it was like 400 bucks.
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I highly suggest not settling for buying a desktop/laptop just to play PWI. You're eventually gonna stop at some point. If possible, try to aim for games that require more or even just high specs which will then play PWI incredibly smoothly.
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  • Tank_U_VM - Lost City
    Tank_U_VM - Lost City Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Maiya - Lost City wrote: »
    I highly suggest not settling for buying a desktop/laptop just to play PWI. You're eventually gonna stop at some point. If possible, try to aim for games that require more or even just high specs which will then play PWI incredibly smoothly.

    Noooooo, I'll never stop.

    The only other thing I use my computer for is light internet and word processing. Any computer these days can do that, so the heaviest lifting I will ever have to do is PWI (or maybe diablo 3, if they ever bring that out).
  • Pleira - Raging Tide
    Pleira - Raging Tide Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I dunno about the price range you mentioned, but an idea might be to go to your local computer company (i.e. Simple PC, etc). I went and got my new comp custom built over there. I'll be honest, though, Your best bet for running PWI even halfway smoothly would be a computer with a Duo Core processor and 1G + RAM (Don't worry about the tech terms, computer company will understand it.)

    Mine's a Duo Core, 2G (I think) RAM, geForce 9600 video card, OS Windows 7 Home Premium.

    Honestly mine cost closer to $600. I saved up money from my paychecks for a few months, though to make sure I could afford it.

    Although it may seem cheaper to go to companies online like NewEgg, I wouldn't do that for a whole computer system if I were you. It may seem cheaper to do it that way, but there's no guarantees that the computer will work when you get it, and the costs to hassle with that would make it add up to more than you thought. At least with a local computer company, they make sure the computer works normally before you pick it up.
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  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    The one thing that will make or break any 3D gaming is the GPU, look on the spec sheets for something named Intel GMA or Intel Graphics Media anything, or Intel HD, if you see anything like that do not under any circumstances get it you won't even be able to play a flash game with that POS GPU

    ATI and (to a lesser extent) nvidia ftw

    All the other specs shouldn't matter to much, as nowadays almost all the other components are the same..
  • Alphae - Lost City
    Alphae - Lost City Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    People can play this game with min. specs as it states on the website. What I would seriously look into is possibly improving your internet connection speed, checking out other providers, etc. That's a cause of a lot of lag, I know, on my end.

    But instead of buying ANY computer to fit the needs of one game or program, judge on what you plan to use the computer for, and buy based upon this. Think of the capabilities you want the machine to have, and buy based on that. As above said, there are things you can compromise on, and things you should not compromise on. Graphics card is definitely one of them if you want the capability to play 3D games.
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  • Lutirica - Harshlands
    Lutirica - Harshlands Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    wow why would someone make this thread?
    Fail troll of harshlands
  • Alphae - Lost City
    Alphae - Lost City Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »
    wow why would someone make this thread?

    Wow, why would someone comment like this?

    If you don't think it's appropriate, report it and ignore it. OP asked for help and we offered him some.
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  • skinnypop
    skinnypop Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »
    wow why would someone make this thread?

    If he didn't, who would you troll?
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »
    wow why would someone make this thread?

    Because they are one of the few people left that know nothing about computer specs?

    /is being harsh
  • Kataguruma - Harshlands
    Kataguruma - Harshlands Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    As it is said, PWI can be runned on almost any cpu.... Take the higher cpu you can get according to your budget. And it will be enough...... If my ****ty cpu can run it, any cpu can!!!! lol
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Kataguruma - Harshlands wrote: »
    As it is said, PWI can be runned on almost any cpu.... Take the higher cpu you can get according to your budget. And it will be enough...... If my ****ty cpu can run it, any cpu can!!!! lol

    CPU has nothing to do with it (well not really... you still should have a decent one) its the GPU that matters, if you don't have a GPU thats worth a **** then you force the CPU to do software rendering which is incredibly slow and 99% of the time you don't have the ability to even do that so yeah...
  • Kataguruma - Harshlands
    Kataguruma - Harshlands Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Ill let you know about the system requirement of a similar game:

    PC System Requirements

    OS:

    Windows XP 32/64-Bit (Service pack 3)
    Windows Vista 32/64-Bit (with the latest Service Packs)
    Windows 7** 32/64-Bit (with the latest updates)
    Processor:
    Minimum: Intel Pentium 4 1.3 GHz or AMD Athlon XP 1500+
    Recommended: Dual-core processor, such as the Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 X2

    Memory:
    Minimum: 512 MB RAM (1GB for Vista users)
    Recommended: 1 GB RAM (2 GB for Vista users)
    Video:
    Minimum: 3D graphics processor with Hardware Transform and Lighting with 32 MB VRAM Such as an ATI Radeon 7200 or NVIDIA GeForce 2 class card or better
    Recommended: 3D graphics processor with Vertex and Pixel Shader capability with 128 MB VRAM Such as an ATI Radeon X1600 or NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT class card or better

    Storage: 15 Gigabytes or more free hard drive space is required

    Sound: DirectX-compatible sound card or motherboard sound capability
    ** The exact hardware requirements for Windows 7 are still being calculated. Only retail versions of Windows 7 are supported.

    Mac System Requirements

    OS:
    Mac OS X 10.4.11 or newer
    Processor:
    Minimum: PowerPC G5 1.6 GHz or Intel Core Duo processor
    Recommended: Intel 1.8GHz processor or better

    Memory:
    Minimum: 1 GB RAM
    Recommended: 2 GB RAM

    Video:
    Minimum: 3D graphics processor with Hardware Transform and Lighting with 64 MB VRAM Such as an ATI Radeon 9600 or NVIDIA GeForce Ti 4600 class card or better
    Recommended: 3D graphics processor with Vertex and Pixel Shader capability with 128 MB VRAM Such as an ATI Radeon X1600 or NVIDIA 7600 class card or better

    All Platforms

    Controls: A keyboard and mouse are required. Input devices other than a mouse and keyboard are not supported.
    Connectivity: You must have an active broadband Internet connection (Such as Cable or DSL) to play. A hardwired connection is recommended. You must also have a valid email address.
    Mouse: Multi-button mouse with scroll wheel recommended.
    Hard Drive Space: 15 GB free hard drive space.

    But I don't think you need 15GB free on hard drive for PWI. Having headset is awesome when you gotta talk faster to someone specific.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Any of the choices you have listed should do fine for playing PW at medium settings. If gaming is factoring in as a consideration i would choose one of the desktops however, the problem with laptops being that even using a chill pad you'll probably be running into overheating issues. Pleira is absolutely right however, your best bet would likely be to go to some local shop and see what you can get on your budget. Most places specializing in gaming will likely have 1 or 2 budget choices which will likely be able to handle PW.
  • Linc - Raging Tide
    Linc - Raging Tide Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    There's not a computer building sub-forum is there? If there ain't there oughtta be.
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  • Tank_U_VM - Lost City
    Tank_U_VM - Lost City Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Any of the choices you have listed should do fine for playing PW at medium settings. If gaming is factoring in as a consideration i would choose one of the desktops however, the problem with laptops being that even using a chill pad you'll probably be running into overheating issues. Pleira is absolutely right however, your best bet would likely be to go to some local shop and see what you can get on your budget. Most places specializing in gaming will likely have 1 or 2 budget choices which will likely be able to handle PW.

    Thanks. Don't really have any local shops that I know of. I do see where you can order the case, the guts, etc separately. Is that an option? Cheaper than one already put together?
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Personal bias but I don't like any of those options. Why? I'm going out of my way to get a laptop that has XP on it, which likely means Ebay. I've had to fix and deal with at school computers that have Vista and Windows 7 and both suck balls. Way too many compatibility issues (especially since so many laptops push the 64 bit version of Windows 7), way too many bugs, driver issues.. no idea why they bother putting out such garbage, but I'd recommend finding a laptop with XP. As it is, the laptop will work significantly less just to run the XP GUI opposed to the Vista/7 GUI. Then, you're bound to run into nearly infinitely less errors that users ran into like with PW or Vent or Skype.
  • Kataguruma - Harshlands
    Kataguruma - Harshlands Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Personal bias but I don't like any of those options. Why? I'm going out of my way to get a laptop that has XP on it, which likely means Ebay. I've had to fix and deal with at school computers that have Vista and Windows 7 and both suck balls. Way too many compatibility issues (especially since so many laptops push the 64 bit version of Windows 7), way too many bugs, driver issues.. no idea why they bother putting out such garbage, but I'd recommend finding a laptop with XP. As it is, the laptop will work significantly less just to run the XP GUI opposed to the Vista/7 GUI. Then, you're bound to run into nearly infinitely less errors that users ran into like with PW or Vent or Skype.

    any cpu after the XXI century can have XP on it.... Even those that come with windows 7 or vista.... Or even those mac. Anyway he shouldnt have any problem playing pwi on windows 7 than vista or xp... my own cpu have xp and my gf has vista. I dont have more fatal errors on my gf's pc.
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Kataguruma - Harshlands wrote: »
    any cpu after the XXI century can have XP on it.... Even those that come with windows 7 or vista.... Or even those mac. Anyway he shouldnt have any problem playing pwi on windows 7 than vista or xp... my own cpu have xp and my gf has vista. I dont have more fatal errors on my gf's pc.
    Kinda hard to put XP on machines sold today unless you already had an XP license before they stopped selling 'em, and gl with that. However, I've also had to help people troubleshoot issues throughout the game trying to run vent and PWI or hell, sometimes just PWI. Look in the tech support section too and you'll see exactly what I mean.
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Personal bias but I don't like any of those options. Why? I'm going out of my way to get a laptop that has XP on it, which likely means Ebay. I've had to fix and deal with at school computers that have Vista and Windows 7 and both suck balls. Way too many compatibility issues (especially since so many laptops push the 64 bit version of Windows 7), way too many bugs, driver issues.. no idea why they bother putting out such garbage, but I'd recommend finding a laptop with XP. As it is, the laptop will work significantly less just to run the XP GUI opposed to the Vista/7 GUI. Then, you're bound to run into nearly infinitely less errors that users ran into like with PW or Vent or Skype.

    All I have to say to people that bash Vista and 7, get a better computer, stop using the old windows 95 upgraded machine that can barely handle Windows XP and get something that can handle the modern world.

    That basically sums up all the people that say Vista and 7 suck...

    Oh and do remember there were manyyyyyyyyyy more complaints about XPs specs when it came out because of how many people were using 98 and 2000, only reason why people seemingly complain more now about Vista and 7 is because they are using an OS that was designed for computers built over 10 years ago.
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Deora - Lost City wrote: »
    All I have to say to people that bash Vista and 7, get a better computer, stop using the old windows 95 upgraded machine that can barely handle Windows XP and get something that can handle the modern world.

    That basically sums up all the people that say Vista and 7 suck...

    Oh and do remember there were manyyyyyyyyyy more complaints about XPs specs when it came out because of how many people were using 98 and 2000, only reason why people seemingly complain more now about Vista and 7 is because they are using an OS that was designed for computers built over 10 years ago.
    You have no idea what you are talking about so please kindly shut up assuming stuff about other people's choice of OS or their hate for certain OSes.

    When I upgrade my computer I expect it to be faster and have more resources I can use, not have them used by a crappy new OS that gives me a las vegas show instead of system functionality through a clean user interface.
  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Deora - Lost City wrote: »
    CPU has nothing to do with it (well not really... you still should have a decent one) its the GPU that matters, if you don't have a GPU thats worth a **** then you force the CPU to do software rendering which is incredibly slow and 99% of the time you don't have the ability to even do that so yeah...
    I have an old Intel GPU Laptop with a 1.9 Ghz P4 that is quite a lot faster than my other old ATI GPU Laptop with a 2.0 Ghz P4. They're rather tough to play on, but both are basically just for cat-shops though, which they do quite well.

    Also, keep in mind that it's not really about Intel GPU vs. ATI/Nvidia GPU, it's about Integrated GPU vs. Dedicated GPU. The integrated Nvidia GPUs are just as crappy as the Intel ones, although to be fair they're still quite sufficient to play the game if they're on a newer machine.
    Deora - Lost City wrote: »
    Intel GMA or Intel Graphics Media anything, or Intel HD, if you see anything like that do not under any circumstances get it you won't even be able to play a flash game with that POS GPU
    Flash doesn't support Nvidia or ATI and relies entirely on the CPU to do all the rendering. Thus, a GPU is completely irrelevant for Flash games and an Intel GPU will work equally as well.
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  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    the problems people have is mostly hardware problems with old systems or no name systems... things made on a boat. just get a damn new system or nearly new one.
    i have zero compatibility issues with any of the software like visual studio, adobe cs, 3dsmax plus tons of games and just a short list of what retail software i had installed. just quit installing shady software or cracked versions or get pieces of hardware with a known brand. win 7 is by far the most stable clean and smooth os than any other version of win
  • Kataguruma - Harshlands
    Kataguruma - Harshlands Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Kinda hard to put XP on machines sold today unless you already had an XP license before they stopped selling 'em, and gl with that. However, I've also had to help people troubleshoot issues throughout the game trying to run vent and PWI or hell, sometimes just PWI. Look in the tech support section too and you'll see exactly what I mean

    PW doesnt do any conflicts with vista... Or more than Xp. Vent Also. I'm used to play with ventrilo a lot with pw and other game with Xp vista and 7 . Results : no conflicts.
    You have no idea what you are talking about so please kindly shut up assuming stuff about other people's choice of OS or their hate for certain OSes.

    When I upgrade my computer I expect it to be faster and have more resources I can use, not have them used by a crappy new OS that gives me a las vegas show instead of system functionality through a clean user interface.

    First, yes I know what I'm talking about. And no I won't shut up just bc you want to... I'm used to do 3d modelling and programing, I tested few cpu and OS. Windows 7 64 bit is quite stable. And 'im not off-topic by talking about a stable Os for pw.... Anyway... The best OS is probably the one you know: XP. A great percentage of windows 7 buyers are satisfied. Most people are complaining bc they simply dont want to know how to work with another OS.
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Deora - Lost City wrote: »
    All I have to say to people that bash Vista and 7, get a better computer, stop using the old windows 95 upgraded machine that can barely handle Windows XP and get something that can handle the modern world.

    That basically sums up all the people that say Vista and 7 suck...

    Oh and do remember there were manyyyyyyyyyy more complaints about XPs specs when it came out because of how many people were using 98 and 2000, only reason why people seemingly complain more now about Vista and 7 is because they are using an OS that was designed for computers built over 10 years ago.
    The main complaint about XP when it came out was it's security issues. I used the beta 2600 version before it even went retail. The Win9x deal ended with WinME because that was a big pile of utter poo. Win9x had many memory related issues which is why MS was correlated with the blue screen of death. Windows 2000 was the predecessor to XP. I know quite a bit about computers because I've built them for almost 15 years now.

    I will second that you are clueless about what you're talking about, and correlating people to an OS is completely fail. This isn't a fanboy convention it's a rational discussion.
    Kataguruma - Harshlands wrote: »
    PW doesnt do any conflicts with vista... Or more than Xp. Vent Also. I'm used to play with v
    This is a politically correct statement and not one based on reality. How many XP isn't compatible with vent topics are there? How about Vista or 7? As I said go to the tech support section and stop being lazy. I've had to help fix dozens of issues with vent, skype, and PWI using Vista and 7.
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You have no idea what you are talking about so please kindly shut up assuming stuff about other people's choice of OS or their hate for certain OSes.

    When I upgrade my computer I expect it to be faster and have more resources I can use, not have them used by a crappy new OS that gives me a las vegas show instead of system functionality through a clean user interface.

    You have no idea what you are talking about so please kindly shut up. You are on the same bandwagon of people that hate Vista and 7 because it is different, granted MS royally screwed up the Vista release in so many ways, there is nothing wrong with it, just look at the Windows Mojave experiment... 7 even has lower spec requirements then Vista and boots significantly faster then XP

    Next time you try and tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about go take your head out of your *** and jump off the bandwagons of idiots and lies.

    And if you want a truly insanely fast machine you wouldn't use Windows or Mac anyway, but this argument is about Windows so I did not mention my OS of choice

    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I have an old Intel GPU Laptop with a 1.9 Ghz P4 that is quite a lot faster than my other old ATI GPU Laptop with a 2.0 Ghz P4. They're rather tough to play on, but both are basically just for cat-shops though, which they do quite well.

    Also, keep in mind that it's not really about Intel GPU vs. ATI/Nvidia GPU, it's about Integrated GPU vs. Dedicated GPU. The integrated Nvidia GPUs are just as crappy as the Intel ones, although to be fair they're still quite sufficient to play the game if they're on a newer machine.


    Flash doesn't support Nvidia or ATI and relies entirely on the CPU to do all the rendering. Thus, a GPU is completely irrelevant for Flash games and an Intel GPU will work equally as well.

    I will admit I did exaggerate a bit on that, but you have to admit Intel just couldn't build a GPU to save their life..

    (and also as of flash 10.1 hardware acceleration does work but is still kind of finicky and Ill also admit I left that in as exaggeration again)
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The main complaint about XP when it came out was it's security issues. I used the beta 2600 version before it even went retail. The Win9x deal ended with WinME because that was a big pile of utter poo. Win9x had many memory related issues which is why MS was correlated with the blue screen of death. Windows 2000 was the predecessor to XP. I know quite a bit about computers because I've built them for almost 15 years now.

    I will second that you are clueless about what you're talking about, and correlating people to an OS is completely fail. This isn't a fanboy convention it's a rational discussion.
    And I've been in the industry for quite a while myself, I run many, many servers and do a lot of other programming and related work, I do know what I am talking about and I do know the whole NT chain thing. I even have a very old *** machine with the first ever NT release of 3.1 (as well as the DOS based Windows 3.1). I've been doing this for a long time so I probably know way more then you, you are more then likely supporting him because I said something you didn't like in another thread more then likely and now Im getting thread ganked because you want to try and make me look like an idiot.

    Oh and yes, I even have a Windows Neptune Beta disc that MS Sent out back from '01
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Deora - Lost City wrote: »
    And I've been in the industry for quite a while myself, I run many, many servers and do a lot of other programming and related work, I do know what I am talking about and I do know the whole NT chain thing. I even have a very old *** machine with the first ever NT release of 3.1 (as well as the DOS based Windows 3.1). I've been doing this for a long time so I probably know way more then you, you are more then likely supporting him because I said something you didn't like in another thread more then likely and now Im getting thread ganked because you want to try and make me look like an idiot.

    Oh and yes, I even have a Windows Neptune Beta disc that MS Sent out back from '01
    No, you're making yourself look like an idiot. Do you see me insulting people who use Vista and 7? No, I see you doing the same of those advocating sticking to XP if you can find a laptop that has it preinstalled. Please, there are enough fanboys of electronic devices as it is. And stop trying to make yourself look more important than you really are, I'm only responding to your post that you replied to me on, I don't even know what other topics you posted in, nor do I care. Try actually addressing what was said next time, thanks.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Tank_U_VM - Lost City wrote: »
    Thanks. Don't really have any local shops that I know of. I do see where you can order the case, the guts, etc separately. Is that an option? Cheaper than one already put together?

    It would be cheaper to buy everything separate but i would very strongly recommend against it. Unless you are an expert i would very much doubt you could pull it off as there are certainly more things to consider than just putting the pieces together, which itself you shouldn't really be doing without training. It's one thing to swap out a component and a very different one to work from the ground up. Also, you would be missing on the warranty a professional shop can offer. There probably are options near where you live, but if you can't find a store that can competently put togeteher a rig, try asking for out of town shops. If you live in a relatively secluded place then chances are you know someone who frequently goes to a larger city, try asking your friends/family if you don't, and who'll likely be willing to carpool with you. Check out the options that you can find there on the internet before you go, and get a ride first chance you get.

    If you are absolutely decided to buy online, check out warranty and service details and be careful about hidden fees. Some shops will build a comp according to your specs and mail it to you so this also another option, although you'd have to be a lot more careful and do better research than you would dealing with a large retailer.
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No, you're making yourself look like an idiot. Do you see me insulting people who use Vista and 7? No, I see you doing the same of those advocating sticking to XP if you can find a laptop that has it preinstalled. Please, there are enough fanboys of electronic devices as it is. And stop trying to make yourself look more important than you really are, I'm only responding to your post that you replied to me on, I don't even know what other topics you posted in, nor do I care. Try actually addressing what was said next time, thanks.

    You obviously know nothing or you'd know that there is nothing wrong with Vista and 7 people just have **** tier computers, and those are the people saying it is to resource intensive for them
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Deora - Lost City wrote: »
    You obviously know nothing or you'd know that there is nothing wrong with Vista and 7 people just have **** tier computers, and those are the people saying it is to resource intensive for them
    Guess what, that likely has to do with PC manufacturers selling a buggy operating system (especially the 64 bit versions) on lower end machines that have trouble handling it. Maybe your ire should be directed at them instead of people advocating to stick to XP if they can find a machine with it. You just pretty much validated exactly what was iterated as to why to avoid 7 and Vista.

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