So, what do you think makes for an apropiate response?
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Janus, i don't really care about what is it you're trying to prove. Rad back on my convo with Lenore, i never claimed to be any better than any of you. I'm certainly just as bad and rotten as any of you. And if we don't change our ways, then Frankie would certainly be justified in banning each and every one of us, including you honey. b:kiss
And Waffle, give it a rest. As one of the few posters that has consistently stood against homophobia i can say your allegations are ridiculous, and you don't even have a clue what that combo was a bout. You, on the other hand have continued to prove yourself a bigott and a racist. Try to be a man for once and own up to your mistakes.0 -
MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh, Michael, i really wouldn't have taken you for the grudge holding type. You are seriously going to argue that you have not done far worse? Do you honestly believe you didn't deserve that? You're the worst bully in this place. Your average poster may dislike me, but they all hate your guts. Is there even someone in this forums you haven't called an idiot? LOL, you're so pathetic.
he does that to feel good about himself cuz in real life he was picked on and bullied in elementary school and middle school and high school. so now he is getting revenge on the forums to make himself feel better about who he is.
true story.0 -
Rillien - Heavens Tear wrote: »This is a problem. Not picking on you personally, but I know Silvaf posted some great advice a page or two ago and once again people who have nice/on-topic things to say are ignored in favour of derailment. This seems to happen on most threads once insults are hurled.
Best idea ever is to brush off those insults because they really mean nothing. Everyone here is a silly avatar that spews text; take their responses for what they are but once you start taking their words seriously it is way too easy to get riled up over what should be a largely inconsequential discussion forum.
It's a bit too late for that. MANray decided to prove my earlier point right:
He has to argue with everybody who disagrees with him like it's some OCD order to argue, even if he makes himself look like a complete ****** in doing so. This thread is undeniable and irrefutable proof of my very statement and is exactly what happened in my thread; people came in, people trolled, and instead of thinking "Hey if I respond to this I'm taking it off topic and that's a bad thing" he instead thinks "OMFG ARGUMENT MUST MAKE AN *** OF MYSELF AND TRY AND MAKE EVERYBODY LOOK BAD AND PRETEND I HAVE MORAL HIGHGROUND TO PREACH FROM WHEN I DO NOT."
The people who defend MANray from this point onwards are clearly oblivious to the very proof in this thread that he derails things, turns them into practical flamewars because he's not mature enough to walk away (despite the fact he preaches as if he is oh so holy in his first post) and then turns around and goes "I DIDN'T START IT YOU DID OMG I AM NOT A HYPOCRITE BY INSULTING YOU BECAUSE YOU TOTALLY STARTED IT."
He's a 'tarded moron. This thread ends all discussion/debate/flamewar about it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
he does that to feel good about himself cuz in real life he was picked on and bullied in elementary school and middle school and high school. so now he is getting revenge on the forums to make himself feel better about who he is.
true story.
Lmfao, i have to admit i believe this, he takes so much pride in his posts and Role plays this genius who hides in the dark. Hahaha Somebody got their lunch money taken too many times.
That's another so called "Big-Shot" gone down the drain.
Edit: Airyll, (Excluding MistaBwanden) All those people can Rot in your siggy. Stop being a Butt kisser you seem to have enough Ego like Man-Ray here to build your own empire.0 -
MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh, Michael, i really wouldn't have taken you for the grudge holding type. You are seriously going to argue that you have not done far worse? Do you honestly believe you didn't deserve that? You're the worst bully in this place. Your average poster may dislike me, but they all hate your guts. Is there even someone in this forums you haven't called an idiot? LOL, you're so pathetic.
Not holding a grudge at all. You seem to think you're noble and above the fray yet you're one of the most insulting posters I've ever met on these forums. I've never addressed anyone in the forums, no matter how idiotic they are as badly as you commonly do..
I'm pathetic? As insulting and rude as I can be, I've never sunk to your level of derogatory retribution.0 -
Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »It's a bit too late for that. MANray decided to prove my earlier point right:
He has to argue with everybody who disagrees with him like it's some OCD order to argue, even if he makes himself look like a complete ****** in doing so. This thread is undeniable and irrefutable proof of my very statement and is exactly what happened in my thread; people came in, people trolled, and instead of thinking "Hey if I respond to this I'm taking it off topic and that's a bad thing" he instead thinks "OMFG ARGUMENT MUST MAKE AN *** OF MYSELF AND TRY AND MAKE EVERYBODY LOOK BAD AND PRETEND I HAVE MORAL HIGHGROUND TO PREACH FROM WHEN I DO NOT."
The people who defend MANray from this point onwards are clearly oblivious to the very proof in this thread that he derails things, turns them into practical flamewars because he's not mature enough to walk away (despite the fact he preaches as if he is oh so holy in his first post) and then turns around and goes "I DIDN'T START IT YOU DID OMG I AM NOT A HYPOCRITE BY INSULTING YOU BECAUSE YOU TOTALLY STARTED IT."
He's a 'tarded moron. This thread ends all discussion/debate/flamewar about it.
Oh, my dear, this is my thread. It is you who are trolling and derailing. The most basic of facts just seem to fly over your head. Still holding a grudge over your thread. LOL
Tell you what, just repost and i'll make sure to stay out of it. Your childish grudge has shown you your true colors. Yeah, people reading this post are sure to realize the true nature of all posting in it, not just mine. b:chuckle0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »Not holding a grudge at all. You seem to think you're noble and above the fray yet you're one of the most insulting posters I've ever met on these forums. I've never addressed anyone in the forums, no matter how idiotic they are as badly as commonly do..
I'm pathetic? As insulting and rude as I can be, I've never sunk to your level of derogatory retribution.
Have to agree with that, but you're still a hypocrite posting in the "Dead Forums" as you say.
Why are you still here posting on an alt? Do i need my can of "Posers who take revenge on others because of real life issues" Repellent?0 -
I still think the forums just need to be shut down for a week for everyone to just have the time to chill out. What we need to do is start with a clean slate with firm, comprehensive rules...along with an apology from PWE, if that ever happens v.v
People it's just forums from an online game don't make it your life....<_<[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Please. In the OP..MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Janus, i don't really care about what is it you're trying to prove. Rad back on my convo with Lenore, i never claimed to be any better than any of you. I'm certainly just as bad and rotten as any of you. And if we don't change our ways, then Frankie would certainly be justified in banning each and every one of us, including you honey. b:kissMANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »With self criticism being largely missing from the comunity, despite this being the moment when it would be required the most, i would like to make a comment on the absolute inability of some posters to hold civilized discourse.
Let's get it out of the way, yes, i'm well known to be an aggressive poster. But believe it or not i'm NEVER hostile if unprovoked. Those few situations in which i may have gratuitously offended someone i have apologized for, and if you feel otherwise do make your case in a calm, respectful manner, and you may be surprised i may actually come to agree with you. Now, it really does say something about ourselves as a comunity that it is near imposible to try and hold dialogue with some of the forum's regulars without getting a few insults in return. I won't go into specifics but everyone who's familiar with the forums should be well aware exactly who i'm talking about. It doesn't matter how respectful or neutral you may try to be, as it almost seems the very concept of you disagreeing with them is an insult in itself. And they bully their way to "winning" debates which actually is itself a worst form of censorship than anything the forum staff has been able to come up with. This has been ongoing for quite some time now, and i do believe this is very harmful since it silences voices which otherwise could have made for great contributions. It negatively impacts the enviroment for us all. It drives people away from the forums, and makes us all look like a bunch of bitter sad little jerks.
What makes for an apropiate response when you are insulted? Should you be mature enough so as to walk away? Stand firmly and peacefully respond to aggression? Someone insulted me in what i believe to have been a low and unacceptable manner today. I responded expressing my opinion, but without resorting to insult. The result? The thread got locked after flaming in which i was not involved, and the OP felt the need to add injury to insult, resorting to calling me names even after she mistook what was in fact a sarcastic response for a conciliatory comment.
So i leave it to you all to reflect upon this and decide what to do about it. Because the decission has always been in our hands. Because WE are also responsable for this game's decline and it has now become imposible to have a debate about anything without it turning to flames. What do people consider a "good" thread in here? One in which all posters basically agree with the OP. It's either suck up to the forum's heavyweights or get the hell out. No room for a civilized discussion which, may i remind you all, is actually the very purpose the forums were made for.
I mean this as a legitimate argument but know better than to expect my thread to be considered anything other than flamebait, and in the end to be either trolled or ignored. And it's ok, becasue i do hope at the very least someone out there will take comfort in knowing that at least some of us acknowledge our mistakes and would like to change things for the better.
.. not only do you try to make yourself look like you're now above your standard teenage discourse, but you try and finger point at others, then take a victim's role in a flame topic when I guarantee you've been far more of a source of flaming/trolling than most others.
Hilariously, I don't think I've seen a bigger hypocrite on this forum. lol.0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »Not holding a grudge at all. You seem to think you're noble and above the fray yet you're one of the most insulting posters I've ever met on these forums. I've never addressed anyone in the forums, no matter how idiotic they are as badly as commonly do..
I'm pathetic? As insulting and rude as I can be, I've never sunk to your level of derogatory retribution.
Bull and ****.
not really trying to defend manray, but your posts on micheal has been among the most insulting and defamatory posts on these forums. you do nothing but insult people, call them *******, idiots, and every single insulting name you can possibly think of.0 -
as much as the rest of your post makes sense, please refrain from mockery on this subject. there is an actual mental disorder pertaining to this called oppositial defiance disorder, which includes arguing for the sake of arguing to get under people's skin; regardless of logical or illogical points.He has to argue with everybody who disagrees with him like it's some OCD order to argue, even if he makes himself look like a complete ****** in doing so.0 -
Dashiko - Sanctuary wrote: »Have to agree with that, but you're still a hypocrite posting in the "Dead Forums" as you say.
Why are you still here posting on an alt? Do i need my can of "Posers who take revenge on others because of real life issues" Repellent?
*yawn*
You do realize nothing you say has any importance? No, of course not, you're too stupid tor realize it.
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Please. In the OP..
.. not only do you try to make yourself look like you're now above your standard teenage discourse, but you try and finger point at others, then take a victim's role in a flame topic when I guarantee you've been far more of a source of flaming/trolling than most others.
Hilariously, I don't think I've seen a bigger hypocrite on this forum. lol.
Dude, Look at nocturnal_****/Michael_Dark. He's the Role Model posting in the Dead forums he believes in.0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »*yawn*
You do realize nothing you say has any importance? No, of course not, you're too stupid tor realize it.
b:bye
Obviously it is important, you keep responding. Lol do i jiggle your tummy that much?b:cute
To hell with Double Posting it's fun making Michael_Dark Make fun of himself =D0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »Not holding a grudge at all. You seem to think you're noble and above the fray yet you're one of the most insulting posters I've ever met on these forums. I've never addressed anyone in the forums, no matter how idiotic they are as badly as you commonly do..
I'm pathetic? As insulting and rude as I can be, I've never sunk to your level of derogatory retribution.
Oh yes, you have. At least unlike you i take on the heavyweights and not on inocent posters who were only trying to become a part of the comunity. And get it through your thick skull, i'm not trying to come off as better than you. Both you and i are one of this forum's biggest problems. At least i'm trying to do something about it.0 -
Dashiko - Sanctuary wrote: »Obviously it is important, you keep responding. Lol do i jiggle your tummy that much?b:cute
To hell with Double Posting it's fun making Michael_Dark Make fun of himself =D
I see your daily dose of Ritalin has kicked in. Feeling your hair standing on end, the exhilaration that you don't get from real life making you feel alive when trolling a forum?
lol
Go back to 4chan where you belong. This place is too adult for you.
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MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh yes, you have. At least unlike you i take on the heavyweights and not on inocent posters who were only trying to become a part of the comunity. And get it through your thick skull, i'm not trying to come off as better than you. Both you and i are one of this forum's biggest problems. At least i'm trying to do something about it.
I remember him attacking some new players, who just started with arrogant posts relating to his ego. He's still a piece of sht lol
MANray i've actually never heard of you.0 -
MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh, my dear, this is my thread. It is you who are trolling and derailing. The most basic of facts just seem to fly over your head. Still holding a grudge over your thread. LOL
Tell you what, just repost and i'll make sure to stay out of it. Your childish grudge has shown you your true colors. Yeah, people reading this post are sure to realize the true nature of all posting in it, not just mine. b:chuckle
What does the fact this was your thread have anything to do with the fact you're a hypocrite? It's so illogical you can't even call it faulty logic.
This could have been a thread made by god and the fact you turned around and argued like a butthurt little whiner with everybody who disagreed or trolled you would still make you a hyocrite, FYI. The fact it was your thread, and that you were posting about "how should I respond to big meany people"?
That just makes it even more hypocritical.
Fail harder, tard. It doesn't matter whether you made this thread or not. The fact you posted about how to deal with trolls and flamers, the fact all the advice given to you was to "WALK AWAY" and then the fact you HAVE NOT DONE SO proves you made this thread to be an attention w.****. The fact this is your thread doesn't excuse you for responding and arguing, why the **** do you think it does?
Moron.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »as much as the rest of your post makes sense, please refrain from mockery on this subject. there is an actual mental disorder pertaining to this called oppositial defiance disorder, which includes arguing for the sake of arguing to get under people's skin; regardless of logical or illogical points.
What's this? You actually have respect for some group of people? My, oh my. O think an angel somewhere just got his first set of wings...
Why don't you try pretending we all have a disorder and give us the benefit of that respect...0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »*yawn*
You do realize nothing you say has any importance? No, of course not, you're too stupid tor realize it.
b:bye
just like how you are not of importance in rl so you "try" to be important on a game forum?b:chuckle0 -
That's true, though I've been through my dances with Michael and said my piece, many times. Topic starter is MANRay_.Dashiko - Sanctuary wrote: »Dude, Look at nocturnal_****/Michael_Dark. He's the Role Model posting in the Dead forums he believes in.0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »I see your daily dose of Ritalin has kicked in. Feeling your hair standing on end, the exhilaration that you don't get from real life making you feel alive when trolling a forum?
lol
Go back to 4chan where you belong. This place is too adult for you.
b:bye
Obviously you know the effects of ritalin when your ego plays into your head thinking you're the smartest guy in the forums, i think you'd better get your daily dose, stop responding to me if my posts are too "Ignorant". Lord Hypocrite lol.
Btw i've seen better "egghead roleplayers" than you. Nice try though buddy bud.0 -
respect? like the stuff you are failing to show anyone who disagrees with you? just, stop, go the hell away.MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »What's this? You actually have respect for some group of people? My, oh my. O think an angel somewhere just got his first set of wings...
Why don't you try pretending we all have a disorder and give us the benefit of that respect...0 -
Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »respect? like the stuff you are failing to show anyone who disagrees with you? just, stop, go the hell away.
MANray_. isn't as bad as Michael, how come no one sees that omg b:angryb:angryb:angry0 -
MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh yes, you have. At least unlike you i take on the heavyweights and not on inocent posters who were only trying to become a part of the comunity. And get it through your thick skull, i'm not trying to come off as better than you. Both you and i are one of this forum's biggest problems. At least i'm trying to do something about it.
Wake up from your delusion, man... Seriously, read the **** you've posted with a clear head. You're like a child molester collecting donations for Jerry's Kids. Nobody who knows you takes you seriously.
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Dashiko - Sanctuary wrote: »Obviously you know the effects of ritalin when your ego plays into your head thinking you're the smartest guy in the forums, i think you'd better get your daily dose, stop responding to me if my posts are too "Ignorant". Lord Hypocrite lol.
Btw i've seen better "egghead roleplayers" than you. Nice try though buddy bud.
its funny how he thinks a internet forum that you play a virtual online game is meant for "adults". only more proof that he fails in real life. no one on this thread acted in an adult manor what so ever.0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »That's true, though I've been through my dances with Michael and said my piece, many times. Topic starter is MANRay_.
We've had our disagreements, pretty bad ones. I don't think we've ever gotten into it with you like I have with MANray though. Might be close though xP
Also, to the quote you're responding to, I never said I was a role model. Far from it. lolits funny how he thinks a internet forum that you play a virtual online game is meant for "adults". only more proof that he fails in real life.
I didn't say it was for adults. I said it was too adult for him, and you for that matter. b:laugh0 -
Why isn't this thread locked already?
MANray_,
I would urge you to take a step back and take a break from posting for at least a day or so.
My impression is that you are not posting with a clear head.
Take the time and perhaps review your posts you made over the last couple of days and ask yourself if you've represented yourself to the best of your ability in them.
Regards.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »Wake up from your delusion, man... Seriously, read the **** you've posted with a clear head. You're like a child molester collecting donations for Jerry's Kids. Nobody who knows you takes you seriously.
b:bye
Another post worth saying "True True" to. MANray is mean but in a low profile,ninja way.
But go figure Michael, Look in the mirror of truth and compare yourself to the "Kids who you shouldn't take serious".
Especially when they exclaim something has no life in it.
Would that be you or the forums you're posting in b:chuckle0 -
Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »What does the fact this was your thread have anything to do with the fact you're a hypocrite? It's so illogical you can't even call it faulty logic.
This could have been a thread made by god and the fact you turned around and argued like a butthurt little whiner with everybody who disagreed or trolled you would still make you a hyocrite, FYI. The fact it was your thread, and that you were posting about "how should I respond to big meany people"?
That just makes it even more hypocritical.
Fail harder, tard. It doesn't matter whether you made this thread or not. The fact you posted about how to deal with trolls and flamers, the fact all the advice given to you was to "WALK AWAY" and then the fact you HAVE NOT DONE SO proves you made this thread to be an attention w.****. The fact this is your thread doesn't excuse you for responding and arguing, why the **** do you think it does?
Moron.
Get something straight, i argued with everyone who came in here just to flame and insult. I haven't lashed out at anyone who didn't provoke me. Even Waffle i asked to leave in civil terms. You came here to insult me, call me out on hipocrisy and so on, but never really cared about the thread's topic, or even considered i might be making a good point despite whatever you think i may be. You just came here to rage and throw a tantrum over your stupid thread. Want to know what you've acomplished honey? Do you think any sane person thinks you're better than me? You've only demonstrated to be every bit the brat and bully as anyone who's made more than a couple of posts in this thread. And yes, that's including me.0
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