is rank 9 armour the new BEST armor?

baalrunner
baalrunner Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2010 in General Discussion
so in rank (IX) 9 armor the absolute best armor in the game now?
what about the rank 8 weps?

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  • Aytiatsu - Harshlands
    Aytiatsu - Harshlands Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lets count shall we? 1 < 2 < 3 < 4 < 5 < 6 < 7 < 8 < 9

    hmm the answer is yes, if rank 8 was better than 9 what would be the point of spending 10000+ more dollars on useless junk
  • Ranfa - Dreamweaver
    Ranfa - Dreamweaver Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I prefer rank 8, simply because it's got more utility than just adding raw power.
  • baalrunner
    baalrunner Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    aytiatsu...i meant in comparison to the other armors, nirvana, tt, lunar, etc...

    try being less rudeb:angry
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The rank 8 tops for archers and assassins also have -0.1 interval which the r9 top doesn't have, which is probably the only case of r8 being better than r9.

    For the other parts r9 is much better because of the set bonus and the legs/bracers that have -interval/channeling.

    Edit: And yes, TT/lunar/nirvana have nothing over R9 armor.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Stats wise yes. Go check on pwdatabase.com
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The rank 8 tops for archers and assassins also have -0.1 interval which the r9 top doesn't have, which is probably the only case of r8 being better than r9.

    For the other parts r9 is much better because of the set bonus and the legs/bracers that have -interval/channeling.

    Edit: And yes, TT/lunar/nirvana have nothing over R9 armor.

    for wizards the rank 8 weapon has more crit than the rank 9 one
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Wizzies are replying on crits now?

    b:surrender
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    for wizards the rank 8 weapon has more crit than the rank 9 one

    Hmmm +4% crit vs +60 attack level and grade 16 refines.

    Tough call.
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  • NonameWiz - Sanctuary
    NonameWiz - Sanctuary Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ~670m R8 vs too many bils for r9.

    Easy call :D
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  • Daikataro - Dreamweaver
    Daikataro - Dreamweaver Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Rank 8 = you get -.01 interval on your hits, which on my own experience tends to rise your damage output by 15-20%

    Rank 9 = brute, crude and simply rises your attack power by 80% (per piece)

    I think that's enough said
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    80% per piece? Are you saying each piece gives +80 attack levels? Where was that information from?
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    80% per piece? Are you saying each piece gives +80 attack levels? Where was that information from?

    It's what the encyclopedia said before r9 was released.

    The actual stats are way different though.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    80 attack levels per piece will just make the user way overpowered. Imagine a wizzy with that.....
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    80 attack levels per piece will just make the user way overpowered. Imagine a wizzy with that.....

    yeah good thing it turned out to be bull in the end.

    Only the set bonus gives att/def levels (30 att/20 def when full), which is still very nice.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    for BMs and Assassins they don't get the -int they need to get the full set so for those 2 classes I'd say no, but a 5.0 barb in full rank 9 ohhhh eemmmmm geeeeee OP OP OP :D
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    baalrunner wrote: »
    aytiatsu...i meant in comparison to the other armors, nirvana, tt, lunar, etc...

    try being less rudeb:angry

    It doesn't matter which is better.

    it's a pipe dream. By the time anyone gets a full set of Rank 9, the game will have died. Or they could have bought a vacation house in several different countries.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    it's a pipe dream. By the time anyone gets a full set of Rank 9, the game will have died. Or they could have bought a vacation house in several different countries.



    Oh the doom and gloom. What are your qualifications to make such a statement? lol
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  • Hari - Heavens Tear
    Hari - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Oh the doom and gloom. What are your qualifications to make such a statement? lol

    Each piece of rank 9 takes roughly the same amount of chips as a warsoul weapon (320k). Plus 3 weeks of owning the entire map or buying the reward from the faction that does.

    There are 7 pieces of rank 9.

    Therefore, full rank 9 costs (roughly) 7 times as much as a warsoul weapon.

    As of right now, as far as I know there's 1 warsoul on LC, HT, and sanc, after 2 years.

    Even assuming wealth of players rises geometrically, it should still take around 6 years for 1 person per server to get full rank 9. (1/2year, 2/4year, 8/6year).

    Will PWI be around in 6 years? I doubt it. Michael actually has a pretty solid base for saying that.

    Note: I realize I'm being ridiculously simplistic and if you wanted to actually calculate this it would look fairly different, but this is a rough estimate using what I know as of right now and 20 seconds of thinking about it.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Hari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Each piece of rank 9 takes roughly the same amount of chips as a warsoul weapon (320k). Plus 3 weeks of owning the entire map or buying the reward from the faction that does.

    Ignoring the point I already made about Rep being a by product of ....
    Even assuming wealth of players rises geometrically, it should still take around 6 years for 1 person per server to get full rank 9. (1/2year, 2/4year, 8/6year).

    Game hasn't even been around 3 years and people already have rank 8. -please!
    Will PWI be around in 6 years? I doubt it. Michael actually has a pretty solid base for saying that.

    Wrong on 2 accounts.
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  • Megalomania - Harshlands
    Megalomania - Harshlands Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Aytiatsu - Harshlands wrote: »
    Lets count shall we? 1 < 2 < 3 < 4 < 5 < 6 < 7 < 8 < 9

    hmm the answer is yes, if rank 8 was better than 9 what would be the point of spending 10000+ more dollars on useless junk
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Game hasn't even been around 3 years and people already have rank 8. -please!

    Actually PW here is not even two years old yet.

    So if I roll a char on your server, can I come check out your 1337 gears? b:chuckle
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Game hasn't even been around 3 years and people already have rank 8. -please!

    R8 is nothing but 200k rep and a few mil to buy the equips, sure it ain't a piece of cake but it's doable.

    R9 is 300k rep, ~3,2bil in coins per piece (must have the ring before you can get equips) + 3 TW badges of which only 1 gets generated each week per server.

    Simply put, r8 is NOTHING compared to full r9.
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  • Qqarrowqq - Lost City
    Qqarrowqq - Lost City Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Are there slingshot rank 9 weapons? I never even passed rank 2 yet. But I won't care if there is no slingshots. That is my favourite weapon
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Qqarrowqq - Lost City wrote: »
    ...

    No. Only a bow.

    Also don't count on ever getting r9.
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  • Qqarrowqq - Lost City
    Qqarrowqq - Lost City Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No. Only a bow.

    Also don't count on ever getting r9.

    I hate bows
  • Mraochan - Lost City
    Mraochan - Lost City Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Actually PW here is not even two years old yet.

    Wonder what the 2 year anniversary will bring b:chuckle
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    nothing worse then what we have allrdy been atked with
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Hari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    As of right now, as far as I know there's 1 warsoul on LC, HT, and sanc, after 2 years.

    Is there?
  • _Tsunami_ - Lost City
    _Tsunami_ - Lost City Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Honestly i don't like rank 9,well yes it's uber equipment but as interval oriented assassin i don't find it very usefull. Look like was made for damage per hit assassins, and i'm not that. If i really could manage to use all that coins i prefer to get rank8 + full interval gear and take it to +12.
    Rank 9 it's a waste (personal opinion)

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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »
    Wonder what the 2 year anniversary will bring b:chuckle

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