TW changes - How will it affect DW server?

DrAgOOnZ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

1. You may not have specifically said it was cuz of TW pay on your link, but you sure was QQing about something. It's easy to assume that it was the pay because that is the major complaint I'm hearing.

2. No, she didn't go to every Nien beast with me. There were times I even asked her to come, get your facts straight. She's my in-game wife and friend, so of course we're going to do events together. It has nothing to do with leeching? Are you telling me two people can't do events together because they enjoy being with each other?

3. She farmed a lot of her gears with Ajay. The gears with my name on it I gave it as a gift. There's nothing wrong with what I choose to do with or who I give gifts to. I gave many gifts to many other people in the past too. Again, get your facts straight before making more accusations.

LOL goonz. My bad. Thanks for clarifying everything! So you brought her to nein beast over and over again because you guys are such good friends! And she also gladly took the many gifts that you gave her because you guys are such good friends! I see that in your eyes that she isn't a big leecher and I'm VERY glad that you didn't feel like you were being used.

So to clarify, she farmed some of her gears, but got the majority of the expensive-stuff from you, and that doesn't make her a leecher. Right.

And by the way, welcome back. I thought you quitted after PWI screwed you over with your warsoul. I'm also very glad that you're defending your in-game wife even though she told you that she didn't want anything more than just-a-friend-relationship. Loser.

I promise you that I will get my facts straight next time. If I post again.

lol wow Auka rage!! that is indeed something very uncommon b:shocked gotta teach me that Aubree

Anywaaaaay before this turns into a cash shop vs non cash shop, theory vs fact and farm vs given away argument again, can we just get back to the original topic?

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=9520152&postcount=289

This were my thoughts on what should be "fixed" from the TW payout. I think it would be far more beneficial to get this kind of system than mirages or coin. Cause let's face it, even when we were handed fat checks in Calamity, they hardly ever were dedicated to TW preparation, most likely they ended up becoming fashion or telecoustics or both b:chuckle

This would achieve both not giving an excessive amount of coin to the dominating faction every weekend and not **** TW factions by making them loose their edge on TW costs.

http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/20453

Warsoul tags can also make Warsoul helms and a cute belt through Lights of Warsoul. Which you don't need rank 8 to use so it can be attained by any factionmate instead of just a few cash shoppers b:victory

auka1 wrote: »

loser.

oh snap!! b:shocked

FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I kind of like that idea Andres, but how would they distribute non-tradable items?

That would be up to every faction Matt, say for example. We could use the same system we have been using with our TT runs. As in who needs what kind of thing. Where Auka would get the short end of the stick since he's already a mini world boss. And the ones without the gear, shards or lvl 11 skills would be given a preferential treatment for TW pay. Saving of course, certain items or tags for exchange and funding of TW expenses: towers, bid, barbs, apoth, etc.

Other factions have other very interesting point system, which grades players for participating in events and giving items for a faction. For example I remember talking to a faction leader in LC where say, of 100 people going nirvana, some donated cannies, for every donation they were granted the same amount of points so you could either give your drop to bank and get points, or keep it for yourself and get no points. When the bank reached that goal, the one that had the most points, got the point count reset and a second recast gear piece. next time 250 crystals were obtained, they'd do that again, and again. Which means eventually, the ones that helped and donated the most would get the most points and most of their gear. On average, it took 100 crystal donations to get your second recast. Of course, this system only works if the person that got his/her item, continues to help after. Just like our pay forward system

Loarvion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

wow aubree u hax!!! i never saw aukie positing in forums let alone getting angry on it :O teach me how!!!!!!!!

Andres - Dreamweaver wrote: »

lol wow Auka rage!! that is indeed something very uncommon b:shocked gotta teach me that Aubree

No credit really deserved here. As you can see by my first post, it was the changes PWI made and not me that was the main cause of the forum posting and rage b:bye

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

b:cuteyesh, yesh i was

Ya Miz has the point system pretty much figured out, I hope we can put it to use in Cala soon, sounds like a good way to help people progress

How much did dragoonz spend on his warsoul? I just want to know

Centaura - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Trolling

You're doing it right.

EQ was actually affected by the patch? Maybe Cala now FINALLY has the definitive edge to wipe out EQ, so we can just get done with this bicoloured map...

I know it's not gonna reset, but I'm hoping Cala will disband, or at least steps out of TW after achieving the whole map, so someone else can get a crack at it. One can dream anyway, right?

hey aukie give a kiss to sympie for me ploxb:kiss

and dragoonz go ruin other games with all your money hope u enjoying having no fun in a game that u gota give item for some smiles :P just joking lol

actually andres.... I'm typing this at school. lol

qq summer school.

anyways, as we've seen, charms arent that much of a problem due to stockpiles and this tiger event giving 80 ppl a week free charms. at least 7 charms each if not more.

Most of the people in Calamity, myself included, agrees that after a full red map, land should be given up for the server for the sake of TW for fun

I still think there should be some silver/golden/platinum prize chalice that would have all of the factions (As an interactive image where you could click a factions name and it'd list all the players in the faction AT THAT POINT OF TIME including lvl and class) that have taken the whole map in their server and have it decorate the PWI main page, or something...

Well... there's a suggestion for Cala if they succeed in it, make one at your page.

Don't get me wrong. Territory is meant to be taken and war is meant to be controlled by one side in the end. Combine these and you end up with one side taking all land. The problem people have is this power struggle with Cala & EQ THAT NEVER SEEMS TO END.

Well... I know the map is quite huge and it takes long time to take it all, even if you do win all from day 1. I know that's bit contradictory, but... those are my emotions and I'm a human. My emotions are allowed to contradict my logic.

Now do as I want Cala and go 1 hit EQ off the map.

ive never seen auka angry before b:shocked

btw Hi Loar b:byeb:laugh

Iron_Chef_Jr - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Equinox wants a multi-coloered map and yet Cala wants to own everything as they almost do.

Personal goals. Why do you think someone spends over 15 grand on a bow, when you can get a better one in 2 months for half the price? You do the full track, and then you can settle with what you really want. So let's run through those goals:

Equinox wants to achieve a multicolored map or so they say, Calamity wants to achieve a full red map, at least for 1 week, not because of the coin income, cause its nothing now that mirages are being handed for TW pay. It's been our goal since ever. If you ask me my personal view, non official, as a member of Calamity:

Do we want a full red map? Yes
Do we intend to keep it? I hope not
Will you leave Calamity after achieving it if they decide to keep it? No. many of us just won't focus on other TWs that are not TW versus Equinox.
So why don't you do that now and stop bullying small factions in TW? We have a strong anti-bullying policy in TW, stop BoA on spawns and the use of excessive force to a friendly faction that looks to TW for fun, we've even been to TWs without JJ blessing or using lesser weapons. Unless they clearly try to serve Equinox purposes, then you're gonna get rolled and if possible, vanquished of the map.
Will we share the map after? Yes, as long as Equinox can't take part of the share we will.

But Equinox wants to share the map now. Yes, Equinox says that. They say that they want a multicolored map, they have 7 lands that are worth nothing but mirages, 3 of them share borders with Calamity. What stops them from "sharing" those lands right now, and get the server support to attack Calamity 2 weeks from now? Give up Swam of the Wraiths and Dreaming Cloud while you go for anything that surrounds Kings Feast. So that next week you have HDT, Vanquish, Dynasty, Inversion and Tempest knocking our doors with you. It's funny that Equinox started talking about "A multi-colored map" right after learning that they couldn't beat Calamity. Because before that, their philosophy was "More pink, more fun". That sounds pretty one colored to me.

History proves otherwise, Equinox can say everything they want about a multicolored map. But it was them who took out TheTitans, Immortal, Dynasty of the top left of the map first, it was you who took your own baby faction of the map, and when Calamity left you out of options to the north, it was you who took out Bushido and Immortal to the south. So please, at least try being honest to the rest of the server. If Calamity is guilty of anything, would be of attacking Equinox and showing no quarter to them, while they were still struggling to take land from all those factions from week 12 until today.

Ive posted this in 3 places,:::

OK Guys, I have read quite a few comments about TW changes, first off, DO THE MATHS
Not only does this give the TW land owners more income, you say, mirages, what am I doing with those,
Current (or previous) earnings Tier 3 10 million Teir 2 20 and Teir 1 30 mill
Now add it up at 12k per mirage when the faction owners sell them.
150 x 15k = 2,2500,000 * mirages are sold
Plus one in 40 territories get an epic armor worth how much?????? 200-500 Million idk, gotta be warsoul equivilant
C'Mon, you have to be totally joking, this is just making the land owners RICHER not poorer and just gives them more of an advantage.
Say mirages hit 20k then this just makes it worse.

About the bidding, WTH is going on here, no refund for those ppl who do not win, Most of us HONEST faction owners who work really hard to come up with the coin to go to TW week after week, this is not fair on us honest ppl and ppl who want to go to TW for the Enjoyment of the Game. And who do you really think puts the fake bids there so the land owners factions dont have to fight "Real" opponents so they can keep their land and not have their forces split.

Whiptress
LvL 9x HA Veno
Leader Renegades

and ps, yes i am back, and Renegades still top of members on DW!

Balthier - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So, with the recent changes to the TW (announcement here at the bottom: http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/?p=97191), how will this affect our server?

Will Calamity and EQ stop their agressive TW pushes, seeing as there is basically no rewards (save for the few Rank 8 people) involved?

Will it stay the same, as both guilds players are doing TW for the challenge, fun and lojalty, and not for the money?

Will those people that is in it for the money leave Cala and EQ to pursue their luck in other aspects of pwi, or leave PWI altogether?

Will the changes affect smaller guilds like Dynasty, HDT, Inversion etc..? Will they try to do more TW, in hopes that Cala and EQ wont be as likely to defend as before, or will they stop TWing altogether as it will mostly be a major coinsink even if they get to own a few lands?

Please discuss, I'm anxious to hear what the fellow players on DW thinks about these changes b:thanks

Oh, and +12 orb and G11 gem pack, funny ol' virtual world we live in b:laugh