TW update [not a flame, just a poll]

Danteii - Lost City
Danteii - Lost City Posts: 282 Arc User
edited August 2010 in General Discussion
Hello,

I've been playing this game for nearly 2 years already and, so far, i've enjoyed most of my time here. After reading post about the current update I've noticed that not many people is happy with it, mainly from those that belong to factions that own lands.

In any case I would like to make a poll with only to options, yes and no, and maybe people could share their opinions too. I know that Frankie made a sticky already but if it's not much to ask just keep the poll open.

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  • Qwentomec - Heavens Tear
    Qwentomec - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The update could possibly work out..in that it might force people to do TW uncharmed. But its still gonna cause many people to quit as there will always be those people who can still afford charms, and theres gonna be a big power difference between those who can do TW charmed and those who cant.

    I think if it does cause enough people to go uncharmed, it might make it funner for us nubs who couldn't afford charms in the first place, but I still don't think this is a good idea...
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  • Lejont - Raging Tide
    Lejont - Raging Tide Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    im confused whats the update?
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I like this update a lot. Lets see the greedy players quit, while the ones that TW just for the fun of it keep at it as always.
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  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I've never given salary out before. However that weekly money was nice for guild purchases and events. Going to be a tad hard to distribute mirages instead. Just my own personal thoughts.
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    hmm this should be fun now people will have to find ways to earn more coin & plus i think with this update 1 faction wont be able to hold all the land or wouldnt wnt to lol if your doing TW for pay idk what to say just do it for the fun of it its much better tht wayb:victory
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  • Shevanel - Sanctuary
    Shevanel - Sanctuary Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Qwentomec - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The update could possibly work out..in that it might force people to do TW uncharmed. But its still gonna cause many people to quit as there will always be those people who can still afford charms, and theres gonna be a big power difference between those who can do TW charmed and those who cant.

    I think if it does cause enough people to go uncharmed, it might make it funner for us nubs who couldn't afford charms in the first place, but I still don't think this is a good idea...

    On sanctuary there's a few factions with 1 land each, and the two powers with half the rest each. Those single land factions have to split their 10mil between 70+ people. That money wont get them charmed. at best it will buy 7-8 gold hp.

    I dont see it changing much, as it seems most people who are charmed buy from bout/catshops with money they put in game or money they farmed rather then relying on tw funds.
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  • Liyte - Lost City
    Liyte - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Why fix something that isn't broke?

    Either way, you're still going to have the Essences and the Yakuzas owning the map and taking the mirages for themselves so those who think factions are just going to give up and give their land to the lesser factions, think again.

    But in my opinion as stated in the opening line, what's the point?
    What are you honestly trying to achieve PWE with this update?

    The only thing that will come from this is the people who don't TW will like it because they've never really experienced the cash rewards for themselves; whilst those who do TW will absolutely detest it and probably neglect it for a few days, then come back and still destroy the other factions.

    Either way, don't destroy something and turn away members of the community with a stupid update like this, there's no point and you gain nothing PWE but hatred.
  • aryannamage
    aryannamage Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I agree with this update for one simple fact.

    This WILL drive the Goldprices down and quite quickly too. How much money will be taken off the servers every week with this? Less money to spend equals lower goldprices.

    First thoughts when I read Kantos patchnotes which are I believe still in the admin forum was:

    Yes goldprices down!

    And then...

    Uh oh people won't understand that.
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  • Alphae - Lost City
    Alphae - Lost City Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    What's the point of lowering gold prices if there's nothing worth spending the gold on?
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  • Danteii - Lost City
    Danteii - Lost City Posts: 282 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Aryannamage wrote: »
    I agree with this update for one simple fact.

    This WILL drive the Goldprices down and quite quickly too. How much money will be taken off the servers every week with this? Less money to spend equals lower goldprices.

    First thoughts when I read Kantos patchnotes which are I believe still in the admin forum was:

    Yes goldprices down!

    And then...

    Uh oh people won't understand that.

    This is true, maybe not many people will see it, but it will bring down the gold prices. Here's the thing though.. there is still a bunch of players with a ridiculous amount of money on their pockets, even if the income from lands is removed there are others way to gain money. I also have to add gold prices weren't that high (i'm sorry but i have to mention it) until the first version of packs came out and kept coming back every other month. I remember seeing gold for like 300ish not a few weeks ago but then- PACKS are back. Just keeping it clean but that's what I think.
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  • Bladed_Tony - Raging Tide
    Bladed_Tony - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I chose no.. only for the reason of no TW refunding when outbidded
    they should refund the money to the outbidded ppl once TW bidding ends so they can at least not waste their money
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Aryannamage wrote: »
    I agree with this update for one simple fact.

    This WILL drive the Goldprices down and quite quickly too. How much money will be taken off the servers every week with this? Less money to spend equals lower goldprices.

    First thoughts when I read Kantos patchnotes which are I believe still in the admin forum was:

    Yes goldprices down!

    And then...

    Uh oh people won't understand that.
    Chest of Coins/Perfect Iron Hammers sets the floor at 200k + Whatever they'll call the next set of packs sets the bar for how high it will get since there will still be best luck tokens injecting 10 mil for every 2 people lucky enough to get them and thus can dump far more coin into the game in a week than TW funds would depending on how much people cash shop.


    Your rebuttal?
  • Liyte - Lost City
    Liyte - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Danteii - Lost City wrote: »
    This is true, maybe not many people will see it, but it will bring down the gold prices. Here's the thing though.. there is still a bunch of players with a ridiculous amount of money on their pockets, even if the income from lands is removed there are others way to gain money. I also have to add gold prices weren't that high (i'm sorry but i have to mention it) until the first version of packs came out and kept coming back every other month. I remember seeing gold for like 300ish not a few weeks ago but then- PACKS are back. Just keeping it clean but that's what I think.

    QFT.

    You're the ones who are making the gold prices soar with your stupid packs. It is pretty stupid to say that the gold inflation is all due to the TW funding and rewards.
  • iamcleric
    iamcleric Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Aryannamage wrote: »
    I agree with this update for one simple fact.

    This WILL drive the Goldprices down and quite quickly too. How much money will be taken off the servers every week with this? Less money to spend equals lower goldprices.

    First thoughts when I read Kantos patchnotes which are I believe still in the admin forum was:

    Yes goldprices down!

    And then...

    Uh oh people won't understand that.

    how can this bring the gold prices down? will you be able to control how others would set the gold price? maybe the best solution to lower the gold price is to set a price cap for it if you don't want it to rise.

    has china gold prices gone down after two months of implementing it? can you please back this up with real data?

    trace back to PWI history and see how the gold prices soared so high. it was during the time you implemented the packs. and yet these packs are still here (with a different name every time).

    but ahhh nonetheless, im talking to a pawn of a big corporate world who can't do anything.
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    cap gold at 400kb:sinb:avoid*runs out of the thread*
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  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Yeah you better run.
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yeah you better run.

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  • Lenaura - Sanctuary
    Lenaura - Sanctuary Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    LOL Gold prices wont go down, not with the new auction system on rare items in the boutique for gold!! Gold prices with skyrocket because people will want the rare items and also the new dragon orb/gem packs. Gold prices were already going up just before maintenance.

    And i voted no.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    im kinda glad for this change. Things will get interesting lol. The only thing that changes for most factions is that its a no refund silent bidding b:chuckle most didnt have any tw pay to start out with
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    rofl at mod trying to cover pwi's ****'s. The gold prices are up because of tw funds? I'm sorry, thats simply not true. Gold prices only change when you release those stupid packs.

    On this server, prior to packs, gold was about 350k ea. Now that packs are out, gold is at 450k each. Yah, that was totaly because of tws right?
  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I like this update a lot. Lets see the greedy players quit, while the ones that TW just for the fun of it keep at it as always.

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  • Rerun - Harshlands
    Rerun - Harshlands Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    all i gotta say is...... ROFL.. ROLF.... oh did i mention ROFL about TW and Gold price..?
  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Incentive for TW was already low, now it has dropped to....no reason what so ever.
  • Dellores - Dreamweaver
    Dellores - Dreamweaver Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    But its true though. Less coins in the game means less coins to buy gold with. People seem to forget it is the buyers who determine price, not the seller >.>
  • bitchimon
    bitchimon Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    packs are good, you don't have to buy them. But, if you want to look cool, then u need to give up somethings. TW changes will benefit all players. EXCEPT the GREEDY ONEb:pleased
  • CptFuzzNuts - Sanctuary
    CptFuzzNuts - Sanctuary Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ppl also forget that cash shoppers will still buy gold, while those that the changes hit the most who earn thier coin ingame will find themselves falling further behind.
  • erethizon1
    erethizon1 Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Aryannamage wrote: »
    I agree with this update for one simple fact.

    This WILL drive the Goldprices down and quite quickly too. How much money will be taken off the servers every week with this? Less money to spend equals lower goldprices.

    First thoughts when I read Kantos patchnotes which are I believe still in the admin forum was:

    Yes goldprices down!

    And then...

    Uh oh people won't understand that.

    My mind went to the exact same place. I have been playing since September 3, 2008 (the second day the servers opened) and I remember when gold was 100k each. I remember the price slowly going up to 125k each and thought that even that was too much, but I reluctantly paid it. And then they had a huge series of extremely popular sales (allegedly to help get rid of coin because some coin is lost as part of the gold buying transaction) that drove the price of gold up to between 500 and 600k each. Since then prices have gone down some, but you are still lucky to get a gold for anything less than 400k on Heaven's Tear and usually it is more than that (around 470k at the moment).

    I am extremely glad that TW no longer gives coin rewards and even happier that failed bids are not returned. Anything that destroys coin (and therefore makes it more valuable) is a good thing to me.
  • kosme
    kosme Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I agree that there shouldnt be gold as a tw reward. Reason why is because 500m+ being added every week is too much money to be added to the game. For anyone that thinks that the tw funds dont affect gold prices just look at pw-my with its 1.7m gold (cubi). Getting rid of tw funds probably wont reduce gold prices but instead help to prevent inflation.

    I don't like that now the only way to reach rank 9 is to be a guild with land. This will just make the already strong guilds even stronger eventually one guild will own all the land. I think that owning land should have gameplay rewards instead of items or money. Like give every member an item that gives double xp for an hour.
  • Demans - Lost City
    Demans - Lost City Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    kosme wrote: »
    Like give every member an item that gives double xp for an hour.

    an item for 9th rank gear does seem a bit op , but then agian, its 1 teritory at random per week and then its 1 piece for 200 ppl, means it would take 200 weeks for everyone to have jsut 1 piece (about 4 years), so that isnt too bad, but the 2x exp **** u sugessted would be the dumbest thing ever, seriusly, who the ** even grinds durni na 2 x w/o usin hyper as a lv 90+? most ppl wouldnt even stay online after a tw if that was the reward XD
    well when ur LA psy has same wep grade and refine as ur pure AA wiz, hits as high per shot, has faster dps, and has 2x the crit %, time to retire the wiz............

    dam op fishy....
  • Alphae - Lost City
    Alphae - Lost City Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    kosme wrote: »
    I agree that there shouldnt be gold as a tw reward. Reason why is because 500m+ being added every week is too much money to be added to the game. For anyone that thinks that the tw funds dont affect gold prices just look at pw-my with its 1.7m gold (cubi). Getting rid of tw funds probably wont reduce gold prices but instead help to prevent inflation.

    As has been posted in the main sticky, TW pay is pocket change compared with the coin being dumped into the game by the ability to exchange perfect tokens of best luck for 10m coins.
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