Stupid Blessings

He's saying you're QQing about how casters wouldn't stand a chance if blessing was removed hence why you want them to stay so badly.

Your bias is all too clear when you believe that ranged classes should kill melee before they touch you. The ranged class needs to kite and the melee class needs to close the distance. That's what good PvP is.

Right now, unless you're a sin with stealth/shadow teleport, it doesn't matter what skills you use to try and get close, you're still gonna get facerolled before you reach them. Meaning the blessing isn't doing the melee classes much good.

Fight! Fight! b:dirty *gets pop corn, a tub of mud & hands "ladies" some bikinis*

Astrohawke - Lost City wrote: »

He's saying you're QQing about how casters wouldn't stand a chance if blessing was removed hence why you want them to stay so badly.

Your bias is all too clear when you believe that ranged classes should kill melee before they touch you. The ranged class needs to kite and the melee class needs to close the distance. That's what good PvP is.

Right now, unless you're a sin with stealth/shadow teleport, it doesn't matter what skills you use to try and get close, you're still gonna get facerolled before you reach them. Meaning the blessing isn't doing the melee classes much good.

well, if you're trying to tank a rank8 +10 magic class hits you deserve to die before you reach them. I mean, really you consider fair being able to get close to a wizard without him being able to do basically anything, then stunlock and drop him? just like that, right? Well, since magic ranged classes are just that, RANGED, why not give them the RANGE advantage?
Blessings made ppl fear wizards again, just like before the stupid interval was broken via Anni packs. Clerics still do a lot of damage and archers are finally able to drop endgame wizards from 35m away.
I mean, lately no one seemed to care much about clerics and wizards, much less after the 5aps classes got full shards with 10vit stones and +8 armors. It was just a "sprint-stun-drop" game, with the "repeat first 2 steps until you get to third. Now they need to use their skills and brain again if they want to kill arcanes.
Good BMs still drop arcanes, decent sins also, barbs...well, Zerk crit on Arma, like always, Blessing helps there too. Yeah, is not that easy as before and can't be half brain dead to do it.
30% dmg increase is for everyone. As soon as you can hit you get the benefits. If you were close to dropping an arcane before but just needed that extra bit, the blessing adds it. If you didn't needed anything cause you could just drop anyone, heh, see, that's the reason for blessing. 5aps handed over everything to melee classes - cash, rank8, nirvana gear. Everything was in the reach of pressing the magic combo button: "attk+attk+tripple spark". Now Arcanes have something too.
Just like it supposed to be.

MasterShi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

well, if you're trying to tank a rank8 +10 magic class hits you deserve to die before you reach them. I mean, really you consider fair being able to get close to a wizard without him being able to do basically anything, then stunlock and drop him? just like that, right? Well, since magic ranged classes are just that, RANGED, why not give them the RANGE advantage?
Blessings made ppl fear wizards again, just like before the stupid interval was broken via Anni packs. Clerics still do a lot of damage and archers are finally able to drop endgame wizards from 35m away.
I mean, lately no one seemed to care much about clerics and wizards, much less after the 5aps classes got full shards with 10vit stones and +8 armors. It was just a "sprint-stun-drop" game, with the "repeat first 2 steps until you get to third. Now they need to use their skills and brain again if they want to kill arcanes.
Good BMs still drop arcanes, decent sins also, barbs...well, Zerk crit on Arma, like always, Blessing helps there too. Yeah, is not that easy as before and can't be half brain dead to do it.
30% dmg increase is for everyone. As soon as you can hit you get the benefits. If you were close to dropping an arcane before but just needed that extra bit, the blessing adds it. If you didn't needed anything cause you could just drop anyone, heh, see, that's the reason for blessing. 5aps handed over everything to melee classes - cash, rank8, nirvana gear. Everything was in the reach of pressing the magic combo button: "attk+attk+tripple spark". Now Arcanes have something too.
Just like it supposed to be.

1000% true. Even blessing is nothing comparing with -interval gear. Wizards are no welcome in squad anymore, because they cannot offer anything to squad. No buff, just high peak damage but with long channeling and this advantage is also over with -interval gear.
If dev. Care about balanced game at first they should change channeling gear. I remember when I started to play this game. NO absolutely NO fist BM was here. Every BM has axes and none fists. Look on game now.b:angry

Today we wanted run nirvana so we were looking for tanker. One BM pm us that he will come if in squad are another 2 fists BM because he doing nirvana in 15 min. Of course we were normal squad so he didn't come. Where is justice for another classes?

Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »

You either posted on wrong char or purposely tried to trick us not to know who is posting. Your wise words made me check who you are. Sorry for ruining it.

lol, was playing with avatars, since when is that a crime? and it's not something like detective work in clicking one's avatar to see who's account it is.
Tell me what's not true in what I say? 15-30 minutes nirvana runs by solo/duo 5aps classes, rank8 farmed in a week , cash to +10 it in another. Sure , that's if you have enough time to spend 10hrs/day ingame. But otherwise you can do it in a month, or two...I want to see a wizard farm rank8 in a month with the help of a cleric only. Hell, even with the help of 2 clerics and 2 other wizards. Lol.

And when all the above is possible/impossible, you guys complain about an advantage being given to arcane classes? LOL...really, LOL

MasterShi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

well, if you're trying to tank a rank8 +10 magic class hits you deserve to die before you reach them. I mean, really you consider fair being able to get close to a wizard without him being able to do basically anything, then stunlock and drop him? just like that, right? Well, since magic ranged classes are just that, RANGED, why not give them the RANGE advantage?

Do you even hear what you're saying? Melee deserves to die before they can reach them? So why would anyone bother playing melee then if they just have no chance of getting close? Very balanced. And ranged classes could still kite and kill 5 aps melee before blessings. Especially wizards given BM and Barbs weakness to magic attacks. 5 aps isn't as effective when you're not hitting them constantly which you're not if they're kiting.

There's no doubt 5 aps is broken in PvE. I think we all agree. But there's a difference between PvE balance and PvP balance. PvP balance should take priority and there's no rule that says "because you're better at PvE, we should destroy you in PvP". The blessings do not make wizards any more needed in PvE so it's a non factor anyway. They just imbalance PvP.

MasterShi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

lol, was playing with avatars, since when is that a crime? and it's not something like detective work in clicking one's avatar to see who's account it is.
Tell me what's not true in what I say? 15-30 minutes nirvana runs by solo/duo 5aps classes, rank8 farmed in a week , cash to +10 it in another. Sure , that's if you have enough time to spend 10hrs/day ingame. But otherwise you can do it in a month, or two...I want to see a wizard farm rank8 in a month with the help of a cleric only. Hell, even with the help of 2 clerics and 2 other wizards. Lol.

And when all the above is possible/impossible, you guys complain about an advantage being given to arcane classes? LOL...really, LOL

I don't have anything against you, I just merely checked who you are. I'm sorry if my sentence "your wise words" looked like an insult to you. That's not what I meant.

TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »

All PWI's about now is -interval & 1 shots . Auto-attacks & the use of a single skill ( very fun ) .

Makes me wonder what's next .

I agree.....once you can 1 shot them, or kill instantly fast with DPS....what is next?

TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »

But then come's the TW part . Can any1 pls tell me how exactly is having some wiziez or even other mag DDS 1 shot barbs considered balanced ?

+10 vit stones and higher refined gears ? That matches up with the new event weapons every1 has along with a ton of genie debuffs or dmg amplifiers .

At least remove it from TW or give us the option of a 30 def lvl bless .
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Its balanced because you can do it to their barbs too -.-

and no, a 30 def lvl bless would be boring, tws will last 30% longer and in the 30% longer time, you'll get extended QQs about how OP other people gears are.

So yea, its balanced. Your suggestion: rejected!

Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »

So having a button called "Weapon of mass destruction" that kills all the enemies and the crystal would be balanced too since "both teams can use it"? b:scorn

Seriously, I think cata pullers should be able to protect themselves a bit better. What's funny in a TW where being a cata puller means that your getting one-shotted every time and not doing anything else?

Ok show me that you can use a wizard to one-shot a barb who has invoke on.

and in an organized tw, please tell me you have squads defending your cata squad. your dd can take down their dd faster than their dd can 1 shot your barbs -.-

I have only one serious question.

I am sure most people will be partys duoing or group stuff for pve right.

So why dont people do the same for pvp ?

Why do people always say "Omg blessing is overpowered i always get one shot etc". In pvp you die you cant always be immortal and if you do die get a group of your friends/guildie and hunt them down.


If you are not class that cannot solo in pvp than make a group and kill.


I didnt mean to offend anyone by saying this. Just giving my suggestion

then make sure you have a more organized team in tw and a better strategy
instead of taking the easy way out and QQ about it, take your time, think out of the box and think of how you cna take advantage of it.

its still balanced because you can do it to their cata pullers -.-