Stupid Blessings

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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    the cata puller can always reroll into pro 1 shot classes to make it fair -.-
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  • azurluen
    azurluen Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    What you need [TW ones, I mean] it's to make TW without attacks that follows the player automatically. How can I explain? hmmmm, like, alt+f1 doens't work. You need to have aim to hit. That makes accuracy a fact of skill, and same goes for evasion.

    Like, you send an atack. If other players don't move, got hit. But can always have the reflexes to evade de hit.

    Too bad that it would cause a lot of QQ of noobs that can't have the skill to do it without that number on their gear, but still. Would make PvP a fact of skill and not of Credit Card.

    But it's not like implementing that it's possible, so the sugestion doesn't counts.
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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    thats a game engine thingy, something that i have never seen changed.
    good news is more new mmos are taking what you are suggesting
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  • azurluen
    azurluen Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Well, I already used that. And it's awesome. That's why I montioned it. =^_^=

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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Its balanced because you can do it to their barbs too -.-

    and no, a 30 def lvl bless would be boring, tws will last 30% longer and in the 30% longer time, you'll get extended QQs about how OP other people gears are.

    So yea, its balanced. Your suggestion: rejected!
    How would a +30 def level make TWs last 30% longer when every mage/archer/veno/psy/sin has +30 atk level? It would balance things.
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  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    its still balanced because you can do it to their cata pullers -.-

    Um ... so basically every ranged DD has fun while **** each other's melees while those have to be their "TW toys " . That's a bit selfish :(
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    the cata puller can always reroll into pro 1 shot classes to make it fair -.-

    Um this comment supports what I just said in my post ( quotes self below ) .
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »

    As much as some of you guys like it I don't think you're gonna like when you'll see TWs filled with ranged DDs and almost no melees ( besides sins , getting close to your target w/o getting attacked + always getting 1st hit gives you the opportunity to make good use of those 30 attack lvls ) .

    What if ALL of them are gonna reroll ? Some ppl love their barbs/bms but eventually some might get fed up ( I know some who already have ) with it if it keep's going on like this ( TW wise ofc ) .

    Imagine TWs w/o barbs or bms because no1 wants to be a melee class anymore unless it's a sin .

    /inb4sinsarcherswiziezpsysvenosclericcatpullers


    Ijs ^
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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    but then again, who cares about you guys b:chuckle
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  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    but then again, who cares about you guys b:chuckle

    QQ , I thought nurses were supposed to be nice b:sad

    Mean Lylfo is mean b:angry
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Um ... so basically every ranged DD has fun while **** each other's melees while those have to be their "TW toys " . That's a bit selfish :(

    nah, 5 aps melee rule the PVE world, ranged rule the PvP.
    wanna be good in both? roll archer. b:chuckle (that's why I'm playing wizard and BM, lol)
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »


    What if ALL of them are gonna reroll ? Some ppl love their barbs/bms but eventually some might get fed up ( I know some who already have ) with it if it keep's going on like this ( TW wise ofc ) .

    Imagine TWs w/o barbs or bms because no1 wants to be a melee class anymore unless it's a sin .

    /inb4sinsarcherswiziezpsysvenosclericcatpullers


    Ijs ^

    That doesn't make sense. 30 attack levels or not, melees are still better cat pullers than ranged. Why would a cat barb re-roll to something else just to pull a cat with less hp and defense?
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense. 30 attack levels or not, melees are still better cat pullers than ranged. Why would a cat barb re-roll to something else just to pull a cat with less hp and defense?

    Why would they still pull catas? And btw, HA psy with voodoo is pretty brutal as far as cata pulling is considered.
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  • Altamiria - Heavens Tear
    Altamiria - Heavens Tear Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Black Voodoo = Attack lv22 + Jones Blessing = 52
    + Frenzy = 72

    Add onto that whatever gear is on... + + +

    one shot boredom.

    I say take it out or make it +30 Defense too.
  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense. 30 attack levels or not, melees are still better cat pullers than ranged. Why would a cat barb re-roll to something else just to pull a cat with less hp and defense?

    I don't know about them but I wouldn't feel like being a class that's supposed to tank , that can get 1 shot now or die much easier than before .

    You'd understand if u pk'ed/TW'd allot :P Theories w/o experience mean nothing .
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense. 30 attack levels or not, melees are still better cat pullers than ranged. Why would a cat barb re-roll to something else just to pull a cat with less hp and defense?
    Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    nah, 5 aps melee rule the PVE world, ranged rule the PvP.
    wanna be good in both? roll archer. b:chuckle (that's why I'm playing wizard and BM, lol)

    C'mon...who the hell wants a PWI with only archers, bms ( only for PVE ) , wiziez & clerics ?...

    I can see that happening in the future ( god , I hope not ) if they don't do something about these blessings lol , just takes time for every1 to get enough PVP experience to realize it .

    As an ex lvl 100 wiz to another I ask you : do you think it's more fun 1 shooting ppl or actually having to be a bit more complex & pull off some fun sutra combos in order to kill ?

    There must some ppl still left in this game that like a challenge .
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  • Altamiria - Heavens Tear
    Altamiria - Heavens Tear Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    if you are on a PvE server chances are you won't get that challenge... but on the other hand most people on the PVE servers in PK or TW are into refining to the max... so chances are they don't get that challenge... they desire the one shot or rather the simple solution... use all your coins to refine!
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I don't know about them but I wouldn't feel like being a class that's supposed to tank , that can get 1 shot now or die much easier than before .

    You'd understand if u pk'ed/TW'd allot :P Theories w/o experience mean nothing .

    You're not making sense, the more likely you die the less charm gets *****.
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  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You're not making sense, the more likely you die the less charm gets *****.

    QQ >< Qui pay attention nao ! b:angry Let me put it THIS way :


    If you're gonna get 1 shot anyway , FROM RANGE , why not just roll a class that can 1-3 shot ppl FROM RANGE as well ? ( IN TW )

    You got this :


    Wasting more charm to die & not kill anything VS wasting less charm ( due to less hp ) to die but kill much more.

    Understand now ?
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  • Devil - Harshlands
    Devil - Harshlands Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I like it how most of the arguments to keep the blessings are from the pve servers. My major problem with the blessings is that it totally makes the ones you get from the attendance quest obsolete. Why even release that npc and then allow for these 30% blessings?! Seems like a waste...
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Devil - Harshlands wrote: »
    I like it how most of the arguments to keep the blessings are from the pve servers. My major problem with the blessings is that it totally makes the ones you get from the attendance quest obsolete. Why even release that npc and then allow for these 30% blessings?! Seems like a waste...

    Not everyone has the jones blessing you know... I'm not going to make a new facebook on another account just so my veno can get the blessing... + I still use the def blessing in certain situations.
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  • BarbLord - Raging Tide
    BarbLord - Raging Tide Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Not everyone has the jones blessing you know... I'm not going to make a new facebook on another account just so my veno can get the blessing... + I still use the def blessing in certain situations.

    You can get endless blessings with 1 facebook account you just gotta repeat the connect thingy for each blessing
    I have a jones blessing on both my barb and sin on RT and used the same facebook acount to connect twice in 30 mins and got 2 blessings to
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »
    QQ >< Qui pay attention nao ! b:angry Let me put it THIS way :


    If you're gonna get 1 shot anyway , FROM RANGE , why not just roll a class that can 1-3 shot ppl FROM RANGE as well ? ( IN TW )

    You got this :


    Wasting more charm to die & not kill anything VS wasting less charm ( due to less hp ) to die but kill much more.

    Understand now ?

    It doesn't change the fact that barbs still make the best catapult pullers. If you're going to win a TW, you're going to need catapults. 30 Attack level blessings doesn't change the fact that barbs are still the ideal class for this job. Having a wizard that can one-shot people doesn't make them a good catapuller.

    Maybe on a mass-scale PVP, people would be more inclined to roll a ranged class, but for TW, a variety of classes are still needed, and for that reason, people will play them.
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »
    What if ALL of them are gonna reroll ? Some ppl love their barbs/bms but eventually some might get fed up ( I know some who already have ) with it if it keep's going on like this ( TW wise ofc ) .

    Imagine TWs w/o barbs or bms because no1 wants to be a melee class anymore unless it's a sin .

    /inb4sinsarcherswiziezpsysvenosclericcatpullers


    Ijs ^


    That will never happen. Interval build mele classes are so OP in pve atm, people will never retire their money making machines. The fact that a wiz can 2-3 shoot you from range still doesn't come close to the advantage you have as 5 APS soloing a boss in less than 30 sec.

    Poeple are already re-rolling for that reason, not because of any blessing. They raise 1 caster for PvP than 1 mele for PvE/farming.

    I wish they would make it remotely balanced. All classes should of course be equally useful in both pvp and pve. But i guess thats how PWI sells hypers, forcing people to get more than 1 endgame char to enjoy the game.

    It kinda sucks to be mele in pvp now i agree, endgame wizards with +30 blessing are imba, your charm ticks and you die before you can even get in range. But it sucks even more to be a caster in pve b:surrender.
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Do you think a lot of people might try out Heroes of 3 kingdoms and leave pwi?
    closed beta coming soon =/
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  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Do you think a lot of people might try out Heroes of 3 kingdoms and leave pwi?
    closed beta coming soon =/

    I'm sure quite a few will at least try it . Stay if it's good , leave if it's not .


    This game is getting more & more broken ..........
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  • TehKin - Lost City
    TehKin - Lost City Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    A 30% boost to all damage dealt is a bit over the top. The Kin plays an Assassin and the buffs that the fishies get to their attack / defense level makes them far more powerful than the other classes. When you take damage capabilities such as 6k (max headhunt) and other various skills that do around 5k+ damage adn them amp that damage up by 16% and higher, on top of giving a very high crit, then you realize how broken the game is.

    Attack / defense is a good thing, however the two has to be balanced. You can't just give someone a permanent 30% bonus to ALL damage and have no way of mitigating that type of damage. It's ludicrous and it doesn't work all that well at all. Attack / defense has broken the game as well as the 5 APS which should truly cap at 3aps. This coming from the first fist BM on the server, although the Kin's BM is only lvl 82, the Kin has been fist since closed beta, even when everyone said it sucked.

    There are a lot of flaws in PWI, and most were things that could have been avoided. Yes PWI wouldn't have made that big a profit, but a lot of the things that exist now, should have never existed in the first place, blessings being one of them.

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