clerics control how long u live

this thread is actually good for us clerics if the other classes insist its not true b:shutup less pple to heal! save charm! woo they can take care of themselves! b:pleased profit us

Team of six clerics, is an awesome grp, Done quite a few BHs TTs with em, lotta fun b:laugh

XxIfritxX - Lost City wrote: »

his best hit is 1500 Q_Q is that hard ? maybe it is on a cleric xD

or maybe The barb on ur server are weak hehehehehhe

D=

maybe

when i stop heal and dd cat hp go down pretty fast. when i think barb without heals would have 60-80% HP all the time and boss nuke, then it would kill barb

unless he is charm tanking

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

its a give and take situation i guess....

b:chuckle I like this. +1

XxIfritxX - Lost City wrote: »

his best hit is 1500 Q_Q is that hard ? maybe it is on a cleric xD

or maybe The barb on ur server are weak hehehehehhe

It is when his fiyahballz spike to the tune of almost 5k when people aggro the boss before BB is online, and the Barb is sleeping on the job. T^T

SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »

Its true you lives are in our hands and without us this game would not be possible to play.

Just imagine, if for some reason all the clerics just left the game or rerole to another class it would be impossible to do any BH's, TT's, FC's, or any other instance. Then people will try to play as veno's in all veno squads, with every veno healing 1 pet that's tanking. But because of the 4 hour limit it would take to long to do instances like TT's making it impossibe to get TT armor and weapons and soon everyone will just quit that game and PWI will die soon after.

That's why clerics should be threaded with respect and not blamed for every party wipe.

A veno's pet in TT's deal more damage to a boss than a player. They don't do less damage to ?? bosses. Also, usually only the 1 veno will need to heal its pet. A 6 veno party would be insanely quick.

Edit: A single veno can also solo most TT's in under 4 hours easily, in squad mode.

I need to get in touch with some clerics... this could be very profitable when it comes to life insurance. b:chuckle

Tamp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And likewise a well sharded veno will be doing that same damage + pet's damage. Veno's are highest DD's on ?? mobs.

Firstly, that's irrelevant to my post because you mentioned pet damage vs normal player damage. By late 7X, most players can catch up to the damage of 9X pets and will surpass it when they spark/with proper buffs/debuffs on the bosses.

That being said, unless you're some form of -interval heavy/robe veno then it's not gonna happen.

You forget that casters in general have awful DPS compared to phys attackers. This already puts you at a disadvantage but it just goes downhill from there because of the following.

1: You have the weakest spells out of all casters.
2: You have the second lowest variety of attack spells out of all casters (and your only true spammable skill gives you the worst DPS)
3: You'll be expected to be spending a good portion of time debuffing the boss, supporting the squad, and (assuming the pet tanks) healing.
4: Veno sparks give nothing but a raw damage increase. When any other class sparks, they get extra bonuses (most notably, demons with their -chan/ attack speed increase) that can help them squeeze in more damage.


What this basically means is you start out at a disadvantage on damage. It then gets worse due to your lack of spammable skills for DPS (which is what matters over DPH in a prolonged battle). Then it gets butchered further because your primary role is either support or tank instead of a pure DD. If your damage capability really were that much greater, then you wouldn't be chastised for not lowering that damage to boost the damage output of the rest of the squad. Finally, there's the fact that the only way to get your spark to be on the same level as other classes is to use an apoth powder or comparable genie skill. Something that most really wouldn't consider as worth it.

There's a reason why in RB, the veno's base job has always been farming beans. However all we're doing now is derailing this thread so, if anything, this should be taken to PMs.

I agree as well that it's a give and take... When the squad manages to keep mobs off me, it's much easier for me to keep them alive, both the barb and the DDs (other clerics too should there be any in squad). However, while I do often check on the DDs' health while I heal, there are times when I spam heal barb, check DD health, spam heal barb, and when I check again less than five seconds later, they are on the floor dead because they stole aggro and boss very quickly one, two or three shotted them. So yeah... DDs are often in control of their own lives as well - it's just that depending on the boss, a cleric may be able to save them should they pick an inopportune time to steal aggro.