Claw/Fist barb.

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Better make sure you refine your armor pieces to as high as you can and get good vit or hp shards or else you're gonna be lacking in the HP department.

^This.

I am not a claw Barb, but will share my opinion at least.

You need a lot of money to make up for the HP loss. Its better to be a good, normal barb, than a fail, low HP claw barb. I was thinking about going claw barb too, unfortunately I am Sage, and I don't feel like making the switch and losing my Sage skills I've worked hard for.....yet. <___<

As for armor, depends, most claw Barbs I see go HA TT99 set, and LA TT99 belt and necklace.. You will lack in the mdef section though. If you can fund the money, get Nirvana pants as well.

I do agree though, fist Barbs can be good.

Overall, it depends, experiment with pwcalc like I did.

Stat-wise, you will need to sacrifice vit to dex. Fortunately, vit can be made up with vit stones and refines, very costly though.

If any actual claw Barb want to add-on/change info on what I said, plz do so, I am also interested in this. lol

I've been working to try to become a claw barb as well but i am waiting a bit to make sure that they aren't making claws BM only. Also i was planing to use TT 99 HA Chest plate and Leggings then TT 99 LA wrist guards and boots instead of using TT 99 LA ornaments. b:surrender

Jetblaze - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I've been working to try to become a claw barb as well but i am waiting a bit to make sure that they aren't making claws BM only. Also i was planing to use TT 99 HA Chest plate and Leggings then TT 99 LA wrist guards and boots instead of using TT 99 LA ornaments. b:surrender

I fully agree, the claw restriction does worry me, I dont want to waste alot of money if it does happen.

As for the TT99 leggings and boots, ehh... o.o

It does help with mdef though.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Currently trying to decide my stats.

Minimum str for axes minimum dex for claws rest vit? Or maybe more str? Or maybe more dex?


Not a huge deal as most of my stat points I think will be used up just to meet the minimum requriments for both weapons, as my Gx axes take 272 str and deicide needs 193 dex so it's not a huge amount of stat points or anything. Probably just go vit, would be easier to figure out if the pw calculator site wasn't down.

Depends for str and vit. You can always refine and stick vit stones in your gear for HP.

As for str, depends if you want GXs to be your end-game weapon. Personally, I would add for str for Nirvana axes, so you can be at least be a axe/claw Barb.

Overall....its seems to be an expensive build. -.-

If you do go fist/claw, I suggest doing full HA armor with magic ornaments. Doing it this way, you can still reach a 3.33 unbuffed attack speed, which isn't too bad.

Cybetron - Harshlands wrote: »

you'll need massive refines on ur armor and vit stones to keep up the vit and play the role of a tank.. to see the true effects of fists/claws at endgame u'ld've to have -int gear (cape, tome, wrists and claws) and refine the claws atleast to +8 maybe.. and the claws shudn't be anythin less that the Lunar Glade 95 ones..

Assuming you will be using 250 str for armor requirements (keeping in mind the reqs of tt99) u will need 193 dex for the CV95 claws.. Deicide..

That leaves 44 vit at lvl 95.. Summary,

Vit: 44 (vary this as much as you can), Dex: 193 (Enough for Deicide) and str: 250 (Enough for Heavy Armor)

With these base stats u'll have an HP of around 6k with lvl 11 BKI buff.. Hope this answers your query b:pleased

I gave this reply on another thread which had asked for the stats for an HA armor + Deicide. This was according to the pwcalc.

Since you will mostly get 12 str from your armor and ornaments, you'll be able to equip your GXs. Since you'll be having an event cape and Deicide, I'ld recommend TT99 LA/HA wristguards. You will have the required stats and you'll get a -0.1 interval. With LA wristguards you will have an extra 130 mdef. It might be a good addition depending on your current mdef.

With this you'll probably end up with 2.86 aps which isn't really that bad from 3.33. You will still have a perma-spark. If you want to reach 3.33 then you might go for an interval tome or ornaments.

Rawrgh,

If you not sage then switch and here is why,

Interval robe, tomb, interval bracers and nirvana pants, at least two 99tt gears and claws/fists, tt100 fists are best = 4 attacks. You will aggro so if your demon switch to sage, trust me you'll only lose 1 attack plus the sage spark regains hp and reduces 25% damages, this is PRICELESS and u will maintain perma spark while tanking bosses! Also I use aptho incase boss brakes attacks and need sage spark. Also use aptho for hp recovering. I require no healing from cleric in tt or nirvana and charm ticks once in a while.

Refine refine and refine EVERYTHING.

Dont use magic shards or physical hitting mobs you'll be tanking will kill you. Remember HP shards covers BOTH, PLUS when using hp sage buff and having at least g7 in all or higher shards in all gears = MUCH more HP from sage hp buff. Best to use +10 vit shards if you can afford them, if not use g8 shards. Anyone who shards with magic shards is an idiot, don't listen to them - they are FAIL and are missing priceless hp. Cleric buff is enough.

When in party have bm use heaven's flame, cleric debuff dimensional seal and veno amp. Also get genie skill relentless courage and use it. Make sure you communicate this with them (party members) and time all this right. You will ****! Trust me.

Learn from my post, this will be my only post in this thread. I'm not gonna hang here and argue with these nabs lol. Also this is for pve experience since I don't pvp, personally I think pvp is a waste of time.

_BaMbOo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Rawrgh,

If you not sage then switch and here is why,

Interval robe, tomb, interval bracers and nirvana pants, at least two 99tt gears and claws/fists, tt100 fists are best = 4 attacks. You will aggro so if your demon switch to sage, trust me you'll only lose 1 attack plus the sage spark regains hp and reduces 25% damages, this is PRICELESS and u will maintain perma spark while tanking bosses! Also I use aptho incase boss brakes attacks and need sage spark. Also use aptho for hp recovering. I require no healing from cleric in tt or nirvana and charm ticks once in a while.

Refine refine and refine EVERYTHING.

Dont use magic shards or physical hitting mobs you'll be tanking will kill you. Remember HP shards covers BOTH, PLUS when using hp sage buff and having at least g7 in all or higher shards in all gears = MUCH more HP from sage hp buff. Best to use +10 vit shards if you can afford them, if not use g8 shards. Anyone who shards with magic shards is an idiot, don't listen to them - they are FAIL and are missing priceless hp. Cleric buff is enough.

When in party have bm use heaven's flame, cleric debuff dimensional seal and veno amp. Also get genie skill relentless courage and use it. Make sure you communicate this with them (party members) and time all this right. You will ****! Trust me.

Learn from my post, this will be my only post in this thread. I'm not gonna hang here and argue with these nabs lol. Also this is for pve experience since I don't pvp, personally I think pvp is a waste of time.

Wow....this.....inspired me! Future Sage Claw User here. b:cool

My advice is claws will do about 2.5x the dmg of your gx,s and your hp will take a huge hit.

really if your not a cash shopper this is not viable untill you have built up 2x interval from tt99 and the wrists. In that case you'd be at 4 APS which is decent. But still without insane refines, say everying g8 and +5 you'll probably be sitting at 12k-13k standing up buffed. You need more.

The faction needs you as a catabarb young padawan don't fail me now.

Grasshopper resist the fist allure and get g15 zerk axes XD.

Why Fist Barb? They don't get rank chest like sins/archers do, nor have the crit to make up for the mastery losses that BMs have.

Just re-roll a BM imho.

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why Fist Barb? They don't get rank chest like sins/archers do, nor have the crit to make up for the mastery losses that BMs have.

Just re-roll a BM imho.

different skill sets and attributes. It's not just about the 5aps max dmg. Although that's what everyone seems to be talking about.

Xnastyx - Lost City wrote: »

why fist barb? Why not just reroll a bm?

Well fist barbs have been proven to hit harder then bm's with same everything.By using account stash, because we have poison fang. Which adds on wood damage to our attack (50% if you have demon version, which i have). And you complained about a barbs crit % when demon barbs have op crit rate even without 193 dex?!b:chuckle

Example- Demon Three spark , Demon Beastial onslaught switch to claws and i have 4.0 atm, so thats 4 hits per second with my 55% crit rate for the next 5 seconds while I am sparked. /Comment to above post.

Where has it been proven that barbs hit harder than BM's with same everything? I'd like to see this. b:chuckle They might hit harder with axes because they both have mastery there, but not fists where only BMs/Venos have skill mastery; the 50% poison damage compared to 75% fist weapon mastery and 135% Fire dmg from Demon DBB.

Demon Beastial onslaught sounds like the same effect from Demon glacial spike, except Demon Glacial Spike can be glitch canceled in .3 seconds.

suddenly i tanked a BH89 (Eden) run with level 6 Claws (1* +23 attack). I didnt lost the aggro altough i was not able to use any skills. Even a lvl 90 Psy didnt steal the aggro.
That shows the power of claws combined with Demon/Sage Spark.

hey is there anyway u can give me the build for a fist barb before i **** another one up? im on heavens tear