Your Experience With Each Class - What's Your Opinion

To be honest the only classes I really got into on PWI were the archer [this one, actually. Who was also my first ever toon and she had a lot of money pumped into restating her at one point because I loved her too much to just start over. Derp.] and the venomancer, who was my second ever alt.

Now I've played all the classes - admittedly across different servers - but I just don't enjoy most of them.
Wizards were way too squishy for me.
Clerics actually, I find really fun, but I'm kind of an **** and I can get a little snarky with the "NEED DA HEALZ NAO" people so I'm not best suited for that class.
Melee classes... I just could never get into. I thought I'd do alright on the Sin given it's similarities to the archer in build and armor, but I really couldn't. I had to pot way, way too much as a Sin and it just kind of bugged me out.
Psychic... meh. Kind of ended up finding this fish was a wizard in disguise. But the wizard was better.

I guess I'm just one of those gamers who kind of gets used to one or two different classes and doesn't particularly branch out much.

This isn't to say the other classes aren't fun, though, only that I personally don't find them fun enough to play them as often as I play my main archer or my main alt veno. I mean, my barb was awesome fun.

__Ophelia__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Venomancer - I understand the combination of hatred and envy that's put into flux at this class' mere mention. I however was lured in by the presence of a pet - I have in years passed played WoW and my main there was a Hunter. Simply loved the class, but I found that generally they were frowned upon. It's hard finding either a Hunter on WoW or a Veno on PWI that doesn't just sit back and let their pet do all the work. Your pet is a tank, I understand that, but merely casting a repetitive combination of Venomous and Heal doesn't cut it.

depends on what you're doing. if you're solo grinding mobs your own level (or so) and below, then spamming venomous-heal while letting your pet do the fighting usually works fairly well actually. i fully agree that it's a fail strategy whenever you're in a squad, however. the venomous-heal combo gets so mechanical, sometimes i swear the server's nerfing my drop rates because i've got it convinced i'm a bot or something. squad work needs people, not bots, and people need to play smarter not harder.

(that reminds me, i need more practice in spotting enemy self-buffs so i can purge them in a timely manner. i've let myself slide from training that too long.)

also, not all pets are tanks, nor do most squads usually need more than one good tank. if someone else is tanking, it's good to have a DD pet to pull out in support of that. and of course there's always pulling.

...that's one good thing about venos and soloing, pushing yourself to solo minibosses and instances no other class could handle solo can force you to break out of the venomous-heal combo and do something more creative. or it can force you into a heal-heal-heal spam panic trying to keep your tank alive, depending...

Assassin - I'm just interested in all the hated classes, aren't I? Shouldn't matter at this point though as we got nurfed - something I won't be whining about because I'm not that high of level to notice any of the alterations. Honestly, what attracted me to this class was that I am up and close with my opponent but will not have to remain there for long. The Sin's objective is to get in and get out in a swift manner. I think the problem with this class is that the majority of people, just like with some Venos, rely too much on one thing. You all know what I'm talking about - Stealth and Force Stealth. These skills are however essential to the Sin. Without some means of sneaking up on their opponent, they wouldn't be the silent killers would they? I understand the abuse of the skill, people constantly going in and out of stealth, hiding, regaining some HP, and then attacking without warning once more. I don't play on a PVP server though, so I don't see too many people complaining about it on Dreamweaver.

i play an assassin as a personal challenge, because it's so very different from my usual playing style. i don't normally like the up-close-and-personal, so i thought i'd give it a try. i'm still too low level to comment much on it, only that i really hope the incessant need for meditating to get back HP and MP in between enemies will come to an end sometime later in the game. (and also the incessant dying. but that's probably just me failing at a personal challenge.)

worst thing about the assassins? having trouble tolerating the moronic, overblown graphics and animations the class is saddled with. seriously, the lookie-i'm-batman impersonation every time i have to jump gets old real fast.

Archer - While I like the fact that they maintain a distance from the opponent, I couldn't really get into the class. I felt as if there was some lacking component that was purposely left out. It holds its charms with me due to its preference in using the bow, but I'll just have to sometime come back to the class. It definitely deserves a second chance with me.

i have an archer char because that's how i usually like to play --- methodically, one at a time, from a distance --- but again, it's very very low level and i haven't really got a feel for it yet. constantly kiting is a little annoying in the early game. could do with a better (read: longer lasting) slow skill in the early game, i think.

Wizard - I hear it's the least popular class and those that are in it.......are in it for the end game. I'm afraid that it might be too long-term for me to be happy with the results I'm getting. I like to see my results faster than what people have been telling me would happen with this class. Not to mention it's expensive to play. I'm sort of a Scrooge. >.<

i'm trying out a wizard, but it's my lowest-level char and i'm just not qualified to speak on it yet. in the opening game it seems to need even more kiting than the archer, while still dying more. i may be playing it stupidly.

Classes I Refuse To Try:

Barbarian - I'm sorry to say, but I refuse to play a male toon. It's as simple as that. Sorry.

aw, c'mon, half of humanity shouldn't have to be an insult to the other half. if i can play a veno, you can play a barb. ;-)

Well all I can say (ah when I start I can't finish..) is that every class have something from the players personality.

And yea I mean it b:cool
However tbh I didn't try only archer, well I like changes (and the clickable 'delete' and then 'create' under chars) ekhem.

Well:
~ Venomancer - that was my second choice in my short pwi 'life'. And I think I made a veno 'cause it's soooo much easier to fight when mobs are kicking my pets **** and I'm behind, lazy and just healing pet. Venos are a bit of wizards a bit of clerics and they have their own tanks. However it's fun that u have mp/hp recovery skills, that makes you save money from buying pots. Hmm... What else? Ah, well just look at shaodu and tell me you don't love him

~Assassin - I can call them masters of pvp. Fast and they can use that freakin' stealth mode.. Meh don't u think that's unfair... Anyways, they lvl pretty fast and that kinda attracted me to them. What's more I think their skills looks awesome <.<

~Cleric - actually my favourite, except the fact that I lvl up reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally slowly and my hp is umm.. Funny. Well it's all about the way I am. I like to feel needed.. Well okay... Maybe sometimes I'm a meanie, but only sometimes.. b:shutup
Well when I get on higher lvl with my little wittle cleric I will be able so say more.

~Blademaster - I really don't know WHAT made me play this one as my first char ever. It was like a hell for me x_x I'm totally not into non-magic classes. I was dying alot, still needed pots, ah words waste, it just wasn't for me <.<

~Psychic - oh, well I gotta learn more about them, first what made me pissed was that my channeling was so slow... Nothing more

~Wizard - well all who knows me can tell I have something to wizzies. Just because I have and . I tried to play one only once, was like with bm - hard, many deaths, many pots, wasted coins... b:infuriated So I just gave up. As I can see (by my smexy wizzy friends) wizards are squishy, but really great after lvl 70. Oh oh and I never saw demon wizzy, well but I'm blind, so nvm.

~Barbarian - honestly...? I just made one to get him to lvl 9 to run as a kitty b:beatup However, *to all barbs* you kitties own, there isn't any better aggro keeper than a large, white kitteh

~Archer - so.. Never tried and never want to I just feel it's not for me.

Anyways, all classes are fun 'till the players are fun, it's just a game eh? ^.^

Cleric - my first class, and me favourite b:cute, always a challenge as you can't take anything for granted except high mdef... everything else you have to monitor and compensate for, especially in pvp, being able to heal you and teammates out of trouble is awesome too.

Venomancer: got drawn into this class after watching some pro venos at work with fox form + herc and keeping groups of mobs under control. Got bored around lvl 50 though and gave it up, with the pet it feels like 2nd order fighting, like you're not really involved with it.

Blademaster: fuuuunn slow killing stuff compared to every other class though, mind you I haven't really got into the aoe abilities yet

Archer: pewpewpew, 2nd favourite to cleric, blasting stuff quickly at range is win. Aggro management is hard though, particularly as there's still no way to stop normal attacking with a button >_>, moving works, but seems inefficient.

Assassin: mwahahaha stabstabst- uh, sorry Cleric, could I have a rez please? b:surrender

I have tried one of each class...

Blademaster 99 My absolute favorite to play mainly due to its level/and ability to do multiple things whereas most other classes are mainly built for what they are suppose to do. Though I do have the most pet peeves with my blademaster, although there are indeed some ways to lessen the blow of last pick in tt's. =x (at least pre-tideborn release) Though there are many more peeves, that is/was just one of them.

Barbarian 74 Which happens to be my second favorite class, I adore how much hp it has, and its ability to solo things where my bm REALLY REALLY struggled at, although it is very slow at doing so, it still has it perks. Not to mention how much easier it is for the WHOLE squad if a barb tanks over ANY other class, though when people say that it is expensive to raise a barb, they are NOT joking. =x

Assassian 70 The class peeked my interest from the get go, and once I started playing it I couldn't stop, I really love how fast it gains chi, and can damn near replace a bm in fc, though that's debatable. I don't really like how squishy it is when fighting an aoe boss. Though the bloodpaint definitely helps a lot.

Cleric 67 I started this class due to its ability to resurrect other classes, I originally had two computers, so when my bm was in the 7x range that is when I really started to realize how... difficult it was for my bm to survive anything (mob wise) it was very frustrating. I stopped leveling mainly due to I lost access to my second computer/seen no point in leveling it anymore past lvl 10 res.

Venomancer 60 I was admittedly reluctant to try this class out, but I eventually broke down, and well in the long run when I can afford a herc pet for it, I am sure it will pay off. I was tired of last pick in tt's, would like to start soloing tts... eventually.

Archer 54 I admittedly almost said **** this class at level 20, due to my ill preparedness for its fb19, I ran out of arrows, and had to run up and attack with bare fists, but lets just say I am glad I gave it a second chance. I love its ability to sit back and fire arrows at a relativity safe distance, and kill a mob before it even reaches me.

Wizard 22 As you can tell from its level I am finding it difficult to devote time to leveling it, but I can see it does have potential end game. Though that is a real long way away.

Psychic 20 Just like the wizard, not much time to level it, and also very squishy like the wizard, but it does seem like it could be fun end game.

Blademaster: my experience with the Blademaster class is very entertaining and quite simple to play, ability to use stuns, different equipment freely, different sets of skills to switch every now and then. Makes me use a lot of different tactics which is really fun, my 2nd best class. What I don't like about BM is auto attack with spear, it doesn't look all realistic attacking like he's using a claymore or something.

Wizard: Not really squishy like most say, but still kind of squishy. I have to say, I wish wizard could do a little more support other than just 1 heal and a water dmg buff which needs to be fast as cleric's purehearted blessing. This class is a bit simple but you have to kite over and over. Overall wizards kill pretty slow despite the spike damage

Archer: Fastest killers ingame, spamming skills where mobs can barely reach you. I am not good in that department like some friends of mine that do play archer. I can't solo very much with archer like other classes. Lack of survivability. Archers are the squishiest and the most risk of death ingame imho.

Cleric: I like the class for best survivability skills, other than that I don't really want to be a cleric. Not very squishy and this class kill pretty slow despite the high magic power.

Barbarian: I love this class over all the others, ability to tank anything and having the 2nd best survivability skills. I love it when I help tank for people and saving them. While using a pole hammer is just awesome. They do kill slowest, but thats ok.

Venomancer: Ok, this class is too ridiculously easy to play its not even funny, on top of that, a girl character. I'm a dude, and it does feel weird being on a female toon. Well my cleric and wizard is female too but still. So this is the class I prefer the most boring. On top of that wow looking all girly like... uhm... not my style to be behind a char like that

Assassin: I have to say, being a LA melee without P.DEF or M.DEF bonus skills won't cut out for me. I have to say this is the class I rather avoid playing any further.

Psychic: I haven't tried psychic, and never will. They die too easily in instances from what I witnessed.

Nice thread b:victory now we can see the comments of everyone to get real information from other classes we havent tried yet.


Cleric: I just love it, even though I have more characters Cleric will always be my main. I like it for the next reasons:
1. Able to PVE pretty well (even against some melee monsters)
2. Healing, I love healing skills, makes you pretty much immune to several attacks (unless they 1-2 hit you)
3. Only support class in game, pretty much you can visit many places without the worry of dieing (if you have a good tank in squad).
4. Repair bills are not as high as other classes YET potions eat that money.

When first started I didnt squad much, leveled from 1 to 30 in 2 days (dailies were not in yet, I think only CS or something), those times were fun, a lot of low levels ksing eachother, yet with the high damage clerics deal at low levels (against the mobs hp) it was pretty easy to kill every single mob.

When started leveling up hitting 40-50s started doing BHs and was told what to do several times which I disliked, but thinking about it, it was not a bad thing to be told what to do, since people were higher levels and it is wise to listen to higher levels if you agree (apply logic, some people miss that part) to what they're saying. So learned a lot from them even if they were not clerics.

Cleric at higher level can deal solo pertty good and squad as well, it is the most needed class ingame (as well as barbs), the most userfriendly, I say this because I made a lot more friends with my cleric than with any other class due to its nature.



Venomancer: Always saw venomancer as a hax character hehe, just to be able to call out a pet to kill stuff for you is nice.

Venomancer is a lot more of a solo toon, due to its nature it can tank, heal, attack with magic as well as physical attacks, not mentioning nearly 1-10k on repairs (at max... if soloing stuff) and no potion consume most of the time.

As for my experience I had trouble finding squads with my veno, maybe they felt I was doing more roles than what I should? tanking / healing / attacking...
At the time I created my veno I stopped leveling at level 9 or so... since it was pretty sad to not have someone like with cleric. Yet I was able to do most of my quests (bosses included).

As soon as I was ready to start over with my veno I got a Herc, yes got it at level 15 or so. Leveled it up, and bang! it was able to solo everything, even soloed my FB29, bhs, bh39, bh51 (fushma... wyvern and rankar, due to aoes I cant tank them as well as fushma), bh59, mini bosses, etc. etc.

Yes, I am one of those who think, if you're going to run a veno, you have to prepare to get a Herc as soon as possible if your aim is PVE. Say whatever, but no pet can compare with a buffed Hec (probably speed, yes, but do you really need speed if you know how to control your pet correctly? :P)



Barbarian: Lets say I just dont like the expenses of being a barbarian... stopped leveling it and will not level it again, will probably delete it.

Assassin: Hard to level at first x_x and the potion consume is hiiiigh, stealth is nice when you can get it but it will last like 15 seconds before it fades and sucks up all your mp hahaha so its not really usefull at first.

At my point of view, this is an overpowered class, with my cleric (which is higher level) I can't believe that assassin can just sneak into any instance and check up everything without even being noticed by the mobs. It is just epic.

Though! it has its cons, they are so overpowered on attacks that they steal aggro of monsters pretty easy (usually in less than 10 seconds if a barb/bm are attacking the boss), due to this it is very dangerous since assassin is squishy! 4-5 hits from a boss of the same level as the assassin and it will die (i don't mean all the assassins, some know how to deal with these issues adding shards, vit stones, etc. etc.)

Tideborn has also cool outfits (yeah looks matter to me hahaha), Tideborn is also the only toon which looks actually human (just look at a tideborn chest and a cleric chest ... bare, male, yeah cleric is missing something isnt it? LOL)

Anyway, I stopped leveling my assassin since I want to focus on cleric and veno at the moment.

Assassin, is a fun class, please, please, if you roll an assassin, dont become one of those players who think they can 1 shot everything at higher level, nor assume you can tank everything on sight, assassin has stealth for one reason, its defenses are LOW (mostly HP). Yes my cleric has killed assassins of the same level...



Wizard: Made my wizard, saw the starting skills, tried to do my first quest, and almost died, stopped leveling it.

Yep thats my wizard story, at low level the damage is not high enough to solo most of the quests you get, you need to squad, wizard does become one if not the best DD / pvper on endgame, yeah i think its hard for wizard to get to higher levels since they're as well squishy, just has 1 HP regen (heal) and nearly no buffs.


Those are the chars I have tried so far b:victory

I have stayed on my main for too long, but eventually had to try out the rest of classes,
Mainly to learn their perks and tricks and how to counter them (not that I play PvP).
And for the sake of fun.

Assassin: I find it by far the hardest class to raise up, as it starts too squishy and difficult to handle in earlier lvls without a massive amount of pots. Later on given you can learn the bundle of tricks a sin can provide, they can prove to be one of the most capable classes, as their mix of different skills if used well enough are very interestingly handy and deadly aswell as lotsa of fun. But they will always remain an sitting bait IMO once they are wasted out of survival skills.

Venomancer: I can say clearly, them are the finest choice for those One-man Army lovers out there, as they are the best Solo class, as their pets provide for them, and can be too useful handling big nasty things very decently, that most classes can't do alone at least. Don't find them too much fun tho, the fact they might rely on their pets too much at times. As I personally would rather get up front and personal with targets.

Archer: Never really enjoyed them in any game. maybe it's just me but I can't find any fun in standing at distance and shooting stuff dead, before they can even turn their heads. But to be fair they are quite fun to a lot of people with their ranged capabilities.

Cleric&Barbs: I realized them both to specify a somewhat limited potential at least in PvE in the squad walls, as a Barb is always bound to tank, run in tiger form and hold aggro, a Cleric to always stick to the Barb/Tank heal and do what ever necessary to keep the squad alive. So in other words they proove their most use in support mode, which isn't my way of playing. As I rather have a more free role to play. But then again both classes prove very dependable, but as they are somewhat squad-ish classes, takes more work to make them at best shape on their own.

Wizard: Played my wiz alt for a very short time, but I found them too squishy and hated their channeling for all I care, compared melee classes. Although I'll admit, I never seen greater nukes.

Psychic: Fairly one of the easiest classes to play, as they start off with an immense amount of magical dmg, they are too squishy as a fact, but with fast enough channeling, most mobs will fall dead, before they get close, and at best chances will only lay a punt on you (which could very well be 1/3 your hp). Although at later lvls I will say wizzies proove more devastating.

Blademaster: One of the most balanced classes, and takes quite a bit of skill to handle. Having great AOE's capabilities and teh ability to handle a great variety of weapons and skills, they are most useful in crowd control, and a most nice boon to any squad. Also can be very fun if that's your sort of class.

Barbarian (72): my first love was barb, i took it to 70 and realized hey....i have a ton of HP...but i hit too damn low, so ipretty much left this guy to rot and leave my friends wanting me to tank on a char i no longer player

Psychic (69): i originally did like this class until i started getting into to PvP, i failz at it, psys are super squishy, it may be my level, but i just don't see myself going on with this char much longer, the DPS is great, but the PvP is kinda lame, and its like a lower hitting wiz, without the cool skills

Archer (65): i my archer, i can kill robes up to 90 now and i'm proud of it b:victory this char is kinda on reserve until i decide to get some better gear, but you have great DPs after 60, and i steal aggro too often with crits that sometimes i just sit out mobs because i'm sick of dying all the time

Blademaster (48): i think this class is my calling, i soloed more bosses on this char than any other, its so much to AOE grind, and i can't wait to get to the higher lvls, i use fist and axe, and i made this one a girl, as TT70 axes look hilarious on a girl char b:laugh in short i'm glad i made it, very fun to use

Barbarian: Gotta say I love my barb. Going into situations where I'm outnumbered and should die nine times out of ten...getting hit by a boss repeatedly to the point that my skull has turned to jello...saving parties from party wipes by having insane HP (no charm to tick so no pressure on the cleric.) Above and beyond my favorite class at this point.


Archer: He's only lvl84 but he does decent damage and only dies when I try to do bh79 unwined. b:laugh

Wiz: lvl21 too squishy for my liking.

Veno: She's lvl 22 and I'm really enjoying her play. Learning to play this class is easy, learning to play this class well is a challenge- as it's a mix of squishy, tank, healer and DD.

Cleric: In a word: boring.

Psychic: I'm not really a fan of ranged magic attacks, though to be honest I quit playing this toon at lvl17- Everything just seemed like a chore to me, and too mana intensive.

Cleric: What's to say that hasn't already been said from those with Cleric mains? Clerics start off strong right out of the gate (provided you take the time to learn how to deal with various situations), and just keep getting better as the levels go by. Those issues with MP don't last terribly long, and in later levels potting becomes something of a choice in simpler instances. Unless you or your squads just totally suck...

BM: Actually started out as a BM initially, but was terrible at it in retrospect...

Recently re-rolled a new one, and love it to death. Experience working with them, coupled with what I've read on forums, gave a much better jumping off point and provided a foundation for a toon I'd like to think is actually worth calling a Blademaster. Leveling is often put on the back burner to hoard spirit for skills (which many would consider silly, but tbh leveling is a joke nowadays), so I can test stuff out and learn first hand why some skills kick **** and why others should just be left alone.

Soloing stuff, including most BHs, is actually pretty easy with the huge skill set and wide selection of gear available (on top of lots and lots and lots of pots and Genie stamina...no charms though, after burning the first one while learning to cancel). Most bosses are cake, save for stuff in 59 and bosses that drop amps or Armor Break, and the fact that a majority of a BMs defense stems from their offense is just awesome to me. >W<

Sin: Well...they're definitely infinitely more squishy than a BM. But tbh it's not been a problem for me yet, simply because everything dies so bloody fast. Getting used to a few quirks (such as a minor bit of range on some skills) took some doing, but it's nothing major so far. I'd love to delve deeper into their abilities further than I have (absolutely LOVE working with a good sin), but Cleric still needs more level 11 skills and some semblance of endgame gear...and BM is getting to the point where it needs more attention too...so Sin will probably just be a means to blow off steam for now.

Kinda funny how people omit speaking about the barb, or dislike it due to 'being stuck to tanking and aggroing' and 'repair costs', but when a barb mentiones those things he gets yelled at......*sigh*

Well, I might as well add a bit from my own experience.

First char (and fav) -> barb

I love to solo stuff, not having to party all the time and/or wine for constant help from clan. I like helping friends and clanies tank their bosses and tts/hhs. The repair costs do throw me off a bit. The sticker on my forehead saying 'i'm a barb' kinda does annoy me. People think I should have certain things, do exact stuff.. no space for freedom?!?! meh, if I get annoyed to much, I just go off on a solo quest and remind myself that some people just blow...

Next pick was a cleric
Guess made it to be able to rez people (clan and friends), quickly buff people. I got to like playing it bit, but kiting is not easy, I was dying too much, spells were not that cool, constantly buffin people EATED too much of my mana, so I guess I have it for rezes. Not much of a supporter... rather a leader...

Made a psychic

It was horrible till i got to lvl 20, then, I fell in love with it. Mana cost is horrible though. Don't have much time for it.. BarbForever!!!

Assasin...

Loved it till lvl 20b:chuckle Then kinda lost interest due to squishiness. Don't wanna wait till later to mass kill in pvp.b:shutup

Oh, I made a veno as well, just to grind some coinz. Pretty cool if one wants to just sit back and enjoy. Don't have much time for it though.

Overall, meeleeeee classes FTW!!!! Although there are minuses to all classes, I adore my barb.b:thanksb:victory

Barbarian:my first ever class made didnt even know what a tank was i just liked being a wolf lol
finding out later that i was suposed to tank(after i found out what tanking was newbie in mmos) i loved it using my high survivabiliity and actually became a decent tank overtime more skilled then the average barb i think now its my all time favorite class

venomancer:my second class ever made got to lvl 41 was soooo boring i didnt get hit ever,i didnt ever need to put effort in killing anything, my mana or hp never ran out,i never died or got close to dying there was no challenge in it for me so i quitted it

Archer:mobs kept getting close to me and i used so many pots it wasnt funny i quitted it at lvl 33 or so

wizard:so squishy i kept dying even with lifepowder not to mention mana drain quitted it at lvl 23

cleric: died quite a bit at the start but i improved builded up my p.def and used self heals wisely and got to lvl 41 but bhs were so annoying with everyone running everywhere screaming heal and the fact of needing to spam mp pots so badly just wasnt worth it to me

psychic: was a nice class but i barely ever got hit(boring) and had such a high mana drain i quitted it at lvl 31

assassin: i though boring squishy melee class at first but i bothered getting lifepowders and it all improved i loved using skill combos lvl 20-34 was a serious pain but i kept playing something in the incredible dps kept me intrested and the fact that its melee made it great for me as well at 34 stuff improved a bit stil wasnt to great but i kept leveling and my sin is lvl 42 now and everything keeps improving in survivability i love the class and right now its my no2 out of all classes and im definatly gonna keep playing it for longer

as for bm never really got the spirit to try it

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

19 Cleric: Leveling was painful. Died too much. I don't like playing support, at least not up till now. Deleted.

I play clerics better than you, and I'm not used to clerics lol. Hit and running with great cyclone ftw b:victory . I find clerics easier to play than archers o.o

I do have to admit I find it kind of ironic about the lack of barbarian talk here, in a way.

I can't play a barb for the same reason I can't play a BM or a sin very well... because I just hate being melee. I either want it dead in three shots or I want somebody else to be taking all the slaps for me, I just generally dislike playing melee classes in these kind of games.

But that's really not to say that any of the melee classes fail, or are hard to play, because they really aren't.

That and if barbarians did not exist I wouldn't have a sexah in-game husband to speak of and no doubt I wouldn't have done 80% of the dungeons that I've done. Moar barbs please? D=

[May I also add here if you're getting slapped a lot as an archer, you need to do this thing called kiting. If you are not doing this, it might be why you are dying a lot. (General "you".) IJS]