The Channeling Cap

GHealz - Archosaur
GHealz - Archosaur Posts: 201 Arc User
edited July 2012 in General Discussion
Can any1 tell me the CORRECT cap for -chan if there are any
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  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    there aren't
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  • Fruitluips - Lost City
    Fruitluips - Lost City Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    What might the highest possible channeling stack be?

    * -10% on weapon if you actually manage to get a Beamhoof slicer, probably -3% otherwise
    * -6% on sleeves
    * -3% on necklace
    * -6% on a ring x2
    * -3% on cape
    * -3% on belt
    * -3% on robe
    * -3% on headgear
    * -1% on tome (is there a better one?)
    * -3% on Stone of Savant x2

    With all that, you could get up to -50%. There might be more I'm missing.

    Edit: Added Armsman's idea
  • Armsman - Archosaur
    Armsman - Archosaur Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    These stones of savant give -3% channeling when put on a weapon:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/12637

    EDIT:

    All the rank 7 and 8 arcane robes give -6% channeling:

    http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Rank_and_Reputation

    Also, I know elemental ornaments can have -6% channeling, it's just twice as rare as -3%. I've seen one an elemental necklace with both -6% and -3% channeling before.

    EDIT2:
    I got ninja'd on my edit.
  • Fruitluips - Lost City
    Fruitluips - Lost City Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    That I did! Thanks, added.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Fruitluips - Lost City wrote: »
    What might the highest possible channeling stack be?

    * -10% on weapon if you actually manage to get a Beamhoof slicer, probably -3% otherwise
    * -6% on sleeves
    * -3% on necklace
    * -6% on a ring x2
    * -3% on cape
    * -3% on belt
    * -3% on robe
    * -3% on headgear
    * -1% on tome (is there a better one?)
    * -3% on Stone of Savant x2

    With all that, you could get up to -50%. There might be more I'm missing.

    Edit: Added Armsman's idea

    Umm... Mob drops and crafted wrists, rings and necklaces have the possibility of getting 3 stacked -3/-6 channeling adds up to -18 channeling per piece.

    There is a -12 channeling neck on LC somewhere. A number of -9 channeling wrists and necks as well.

    And you forgot the HH99 Arcane 2 piece set bonus.

    EDIT: I'm pretty sure Diakoku had over -60 channeling at one time.
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  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Also 6% from event cape if I'm not mistaken, not 3%.

    Alternatives also...
    6% from rank 8 top
    3% from nirvana pants

    Don't know how one would go about putting it all together though, but those are some possible alternatives.
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  • Chillum - Dreamweaver
    Chillum - Dreamweaver Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    You can get -6% on regular 1-3 * elemental necklaces and belts.

    You can also get -6% on rank 7 or 8 robe.

    You might be able to do better re channelling bonuses if you were really lucky in crafting items.

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  • Fruitluips - Lost City
    Fruitluips - Lost City Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Okay someone else can keep track of the rest. I just listed what I know >_>
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Fruitluips - Lost City wrote: »
    What might the highest possible channeling stack be?

    * -10% on weapon if you actually manage to get a Beamhoof slicer, probably -3% otherwise
    * -6% on sleeves
    * -3% on necklace
    * -6% on a ring x2
    * -3% on cape
    * -3% on belt
    * -3% on robe
    * -3% on headgear
    * -1% on tome (is there a better one?)
    * -3% on Stone of Savant x2

    With all that, you could get up to -50%. There might be more I'm missing.

    edit: ninja'd

    Edit: Added Armsman's idea

    theoretically you could get more -% modifiers in an item i think
    for example a ring could be crafted with -6% -6% -6%

    extremely unlikely? sure, i dont dare to think for how much it would be sold
  • GHealz - Archosaur
    GHealz - Archosaur Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    so back to my question....is there a cap?? ppl said it stops at -50%
    like how atk speed stops at 5.00
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  • xikasiz
    xikasiz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It doesnt stop at -50 but after 74% (or was it 76?) its really not worth it. Theres a few mages on CHN with -7X%

    Thats how it was a few years back anyway, but with how screwed up pwi made this game probally can reach 130+%
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    lol, what is going to happen at -130%? xD reduce cast?
  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Basically.....If your a wizard, and can get -130%+.....You one shot all two/three-shot all HA classes in less time then they can click a speed skill.

    Or you can own all mobs be4 they even move.
  • azurluen
    azurluen Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Considering that you can have -6% -6% -6% on manufactured gears (-18% total), then you can have lots more. But you need too much luck for that.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Probably 100%, if you go over it's not like you are gaining back time...


    I think the most you can currently get is 116%.

    Edit:

    Beamhoof Slicer: 10%
    Channeling stones (2): 6%
    Warsoul helm: 3%
    Rank top: 6%
    Nirvana pants: 3%
    99 wrists: 6%
    99 boots: 3%
    Channeling cape: 6%
    Necklace with 3x6%: 18% (0.0000185193% chance with 2 star OHT)
    Belt with 3x6%: 18% (0.0000185193% chance with 2 star OHT)
    Ring with 3x6% (2): 36% (0.0000032768% chance with 2 star OHT)
    Tomb: 1%

    Total: 116%
  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQWUtAwt_tU
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  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ....it's even more crazy than a fist bm....
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  • Cyrl - Raging Tide
    Cyrl - Raging Tide Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Oh lol.

    I think the only reason no one QQ's about -%channeling is because getting all the -%channeling gear to be that scary is really, really, really hard to get.

    Although if someone gets it, I have no doubt that there will be people demanding that it be capped.
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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited June 2010
    Most common configuration:
    Rank top: 6%
    99 Wrist/Boot: 9%
    Nirvana Leg: 3%
    Rings: 12%
    Robe: 6%
    Tome: 1%
    Helm: 3%
    Rank 6 Weapon: 10%
    Necklace: 6%
    Belt: 6%
    Stones: 6%

    68%, 75% with relentless courage

    Max:
    Top: 6%
    Wrist: 18%
    Leg: 3%
    Boot: N/A
    Weapon: 10%
    Rings: 36%
    Belt: 18%
    Neck: 18%
    Robe: 6%
    Tome: 1%
    Helm: 3%
    Stones: 6%

    125%, 138% with relentless courage.
  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Hypnos: Actually.......I'd like to see Fist BM (4.0 attk/sec) vs -136% channel Wizard


    Demon/Sage spark allowed.
  • Cyrl - Raging Tide
    Cyrl - Raging Tide Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    0.0

    That would be epic to watch.

    Because that super crazy -%channeling wiz is scary.
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    what's the point of -138% chan?
    unless it;s bugged it would be the same with the -100% chan...
  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Well, if the BM gets off a stun. The wizard is dead, but if the wizard can keep the BM at a distance....BM has no chance ._.


    Damn....epic battle where 1 single move, decides the victor.
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ...You think BM atually win? lol
    tbh Fist BM 4.0 aspd are easier to deal with for wizard even w/o 'instant cast' -138% chann, they only good in PvE, in PvP not b:surrender
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    BM, using +10 vit stones/sapphire, in all his gear. Then drakeflame in their TT100 fist.


    Yeah, sure they aren't great in PvP.
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    You can shard all you can, a wizard hit is known to can even take down a typical cata barb (elem orn, vit stones, 30k+hp), what's the bm chance (follow fist build) of survived through 5s of seal?

    Lol, now BM stun skill have channel and cast time, while the wiz in question won't even show the animation of sealing. it's worse than a permanent sultra: there ain't even cast time in the vid. You think the BM can just run straight up to the wiz and stun him?

    You know what can be at par with that wiz? a 5.0 aspd sin out from stealth. Now that may have a chance.
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  • Proclivity - Archosaur
    Proclivity - Archosaur Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    had to take up the challange, heres the most acheievable channel build possible (without resorting to never gonna happen crafts like 6% 6% 6%)

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    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c3e73beada1c4a0b


    Note that demon spark is in effect, but it dosnt show the -25% channel reduction on the adds, so this is actually -103% channeling for 15 seconds, Also although the gems say 6% it only adds 3% on calculator, the errta havent been updated so the % is correct.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hypnos: Actually.......I'd like to see Fist BM (4.0 attk/sec) vs -136% channel Wizard


    Demon/Sage spark allowed.

    The problem with -ch is that there is cast time. Even with 0ch it's still only about 2x atk/s. You also can't go below 0ch -lol.

    Force of Will takes 2 seconds to cast. Anyone with 5aps gets off 10 hits in that amount of time.

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  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ascii, did you take into account demon wellspring? and btw, does it stack with demon spark? =/
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  • Islamey - Dreamweaver
    Islamey - Dreamweaver Posts: 586 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I've never seen a ring with more than one line of -6% channel. Anyone got a screenie =o?
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