5% price rise on all NPC goods

Qwentomec - Heavens Tear
Qwentomec - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
edited May 2010 in General Discussion
What's going on...the price of NPC stuff has gone up. I don't remember seeing this in the PWI news.

Noticed it when I went to the pet manager to get food, pure water has gone from 50 to 52, peanut oil from 300 to 320, sesame oil from 700 to 740.

I checked the apothecary, with pots its the same thing a 5% price rise across the board.

It's the same at all the gear sellers too, and the price difference gets noticable when you look at the more expensive gear.

Not funny pw -.-
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  • Admante - Dreamweaver
    Admante - Dreamweaver Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    This is an actual coin sink. Minuscule, but a greater coin sink none the less.
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Just wait for those items to appears in the cash shop soon :o)
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  • Qwentomec - Heavens Tear
    Qwentomec - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    It's a very bad coin sink...the rich players with all the money won't be buying NPC gear and pots. They have charms and pack gear.

    All this is gonna do is make the poor people poorer, and it will hit mainly low lvls too. WHY are they targeting the poor low lvls D: , first the DQ price drop and now this.

    EDIT: Ok apparently prices have been higher for a while, but its still bad D:
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  • GothicAngeI - Heavens Tear
    GothicAngeI - Heavens Tear Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Maybe they changed it because people from PW-Mars where haxing the NPC's and getting cheap/pots gear b:shutup.

    Seriously starting to get lame in the attempts to force people to charge $
  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Coin sinks like this are pointless because they keep injecting hundreds of millions through packs.

    They reduced the decomp rates, apparently due to "hackers".

    They cut DQ sale prices by 20% and gave "hackers" as an explanation.

    Whats the explanation for this PWE? Hackers buying too many NPC items?

    Maybe "hacker" = non-cashshopper nowadays.
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  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    **removed**
    If they talk about the DQ sale price, its only because we were doing a rackhus about it on the forums beforehand....

    they want out money ? they should start acting professionally

    they act like compelte immature amateurs ( be they devs or GMs..dont know and dont care) patch notes were always lame and empty, with many points non explained nor cited...

    any professional entreprise would put down patch notes noting EVERY SINGLE POINT included in it, and assumes every change they do.
    I look at all the trollers, and Pvpers.. and know they wouldnt have lasted 30sec on Camelot.

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  • Yishuin - Sanctuary
    Yishuin - Sanctuary Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    one day a man in my country said : the rich are made to be richer and the poor poorer.

    It seems its what is gonna happen to pwi :p.
  • XylolyX - Heavens Tear
    XylolyX - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    It's a very bad coin sink...the rich players with all the money won't be buying NPC gear and pots. They have charms and pack gear.

    All this is gonna do is make the poor people poorer, and it will hit mainly low lvls too. WHY are they targeting the poor low lvls D: , first the DQ price drop and now this.


    ^^ This.

    To design an effective coin sink, a focus group of those who actually play the game would be a good place to start.
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  • Qwentomec - Heavens Tear
    Qwentomec - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    To design an effective coin sink, a focus group of those who actually play the game would be a good place to start.

    From what I've seen the starting areas are generally empty and every BH squad my alt is in, is packed with other alts. Sigh...why is it the players know more about the game demographics and economy than the creators do... :(
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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Sigh...why is it the players know more about the game demographics and economy than the creators do... :(
    Because they're not trying to make money off a game that's likely to implode on itself from being milked for said money. My guess? Someone at PWE's making this game their get-rich-quick plan... -_-

    In fairness, the Pure Water price has been 52 for a while now. I can't actually remember it being 50.
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Much as I hate it, I'll try and be fair to them:
    They are optimising for the situation that exists on the Chinese servers. It is just conceivably possible that this change is a good idea there.
    (Ok, no it isn't - having some GMs and permabanning bots would be a start, but.)

    Blindly applying it here? That's just idiotic.
  • Vortexer - Lost City
    Vortexer - Lost City Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    What's going on...the price of NPC stuff has gone up. I don't remember seeing this in the PWI news.

    Noticed it when I went to the pet manager to get food, pure water has gone from 50 to 52, peanut oil from 300 to 320, sesame oil from 700 to 740.

    I checked the apothecary, with pots its the same thing a 5% price rise across the board.

    It's the same at all the gear sellers too, and the price difference gets noticable when you look at the more expensive gear.

    Not funny pw -.-

    I'm not sure about peanut and sesame oil, but pure water has been priced at 52 coins for a long while now. I remember this because when I got my panther mount a few months ago I bought 1000 of them and that's the price they were at.
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  • XylolyX - Heavens Tear
    XylolyX - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    From what I've seen the starting areas are generally empty and every BH squad my alt is in, is packed with other alts. Sigh...why is it the players know more about the game demographics and economy than the creators do... :(

    Because the players are playing the game and have more in-game experience. The creators are busy creating the game, not having conversations in faction about in-game economics. Nor are they out there grinding enough coin to buy this or that.
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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    To be fair, this guy is probably a good example of the average PWE exec (if not the guy who's behind all this period).

    I mean, you talk about knowing how to play the game... just listen to this guy... -_-

    EDIT: I do not support this guy. I actually posted the video in an effort to show how out of touch the execs are with the actual gameplay. Sorry if that was unclear.
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  • Qwentomec - Heavens Tear
    Qwentomec - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    To be fair, this guy is probably a good example of the average PWE exec (if not the guy who's behind all this period).

    I mean, you talk about knowing how to play the game... just listen to this guy... -_-

    All he says there is basic information about rolls and skills that anyone can find with a little digging. I could have given you that before I started playing this game just by reading a couple of user guides on the classes.

    That info isn't rocket science b:laugh
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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    All he says there is basic information about rolls and skills that anyone can find with a little digging. I could have given you that before I started playing this game just by reading a couple of user guides on the classes.

    That info isn't rocket science b:laugh
    Oh yeah, obviously.

    But listen to him talk and "explain" things. There are things he's just patently wrong about... on basic information. And yet he's the "project director" for PWI or something.

    Personally, I find that rather telling. :P
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  • Qwentomec - Heavens Tear
    Qwentomec - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Ah ok I thought you were siding with the dark side for a second there >__>

    I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with what he is saying there tho...besides the fact it is just basic information. The skill descriptions are right, the roles are right (unless you take into account hybrid builds, LA cleric for example)...am I missing something?
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Not true; those items have been at that price a while already. I'd say about three or four months at least.
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    That's Xarfox if I'm not mistaken, on that video.
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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Ah ok I thought you were siding with the dark side for a second there >__>

    I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with what he is saying there tho...besides the fact it is just basic information. The skill descriptions are right, the roles are right (unless you take into account hybrid builds, LA cleric for example)...am I missing something?
    It's just the way he's saying it. My favorite part is the "here's a tip" sections. His advice to archers was to buy more powerful arrows (no). His advice to clerics was basically "HAY GUESSWAT U CAN ATTACK 2 LOL"

    I'll edit my other post clarifying my position. I didn't think that could be viewed as my supporting this guy.

    And if it really is xarfox, well... I guess that would explain the stuff he told us last July about Jolly Jones... *facepalm*
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  • Sunumi - Archosaur
    Sunumi - Archosaur Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    This is getting out of hand
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    OMG! We have to kill one more mob per 1,000,000 to keep up now. b:sad

    There are plenty of legitimate complaints, people choosing the stupidest ones to harp on bugs me.
    Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.
  • f0xxya
    f0xxya Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    50% hight skill price reduction please
    b:angry

    4KK to know 1 skill.....arrgghhh b:angry
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    To be fair, this guy is probably a good example of the average PWE exec (if not the guy who's behind all this period).

    I mean, you talk about knowing how to play the game... just listen to this guy... -_-

    EDIT: I do not support this guy. I actually posted the video in an effort to show how out of touch the execs are with the actual gameplay. Sorry if that was unclear.

    Did you bother to notice that video's 2 year's old? Not sure what you think is wrong in that vid, i just woke up don't feel like watching a "trailor" for PW....And i think Jonathan Bellis is Frankie if i remember right from a thread i read on the BoI or Forsaken World forums a few weeks ago....
  • Feruta - Heavens Tear
    Feruta - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If this is true, it is another attempt to decrease the money supply in order to solve the current inflation.

    By increasing the amount of in game coin the npc's take in while decreasing the amount they give out through DQ drops, the devs are making a stab at causing deflation.
  • XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary
    XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary Posts: 683 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    OMG! We have to kill one more mob per 1,000,000 to keep up now. b:sad

    There are plenty of legitimate complaints, people choosing the stupidest ones to harp on bugs me.

    yea 5% now, yea 20% now... but whats next? 10% and 30%, 20% and 50%? should everyone just shut up and take it? lets say nothing and bend over. tweakz is down for that.
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    All this is gonna do is make the poor people poorer, and it will hit mainly low lvls too. WHY are they targeting the poor low lvls D: , first the DQ price drop and now this.
    Yeah, they should target the rich high levels. Like make them pay 3 million to do a high level instance. Or 600k to do a timed version of an instance. Or charge 100k-600k per high-level room in Cube. b:chuckle
  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Did you bother to notice that video's 2 year's old? Not sure what you think is wrong in that vid, i just woke up don't feel like watching a "trailor" for PW....And i think Jonathan Bellis is Frankie if i remember right from a thread i read on the BoI or Forsaken World forums a few weeks ago....
    Frankie? Really? ._. So I've heard frankie and xarfox now.

    Guys, honestly, I wasn't trying to incite a big discussion over the content of the video. XD I was just posting it as a throwaway reference to how the PWE execs would talk about the game as opposed to how the players do. :P

    As for the 5%... it won't hurt me very much. Not nearly as much as the DQ price decrease. But it's still kinda BS.

    Can we get back on topic? ._. I really don't wanna derail this thread.
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  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Yeah, they should target the rich high levels. Like make them pay 3 million to do a high level instance. Or 600k to do a timed version of an instance. Or charge 100k-600k per high-level room in Cube. b:chuckle

    Do you really think high levels have the money for this? lmao...
    If your faction does not own every territory of TW, then you're pretty much doomed.

    Higher level DQ mats sell for what 3.5k a piece? when lower level sells for 2.5k (about it... so its a 1k difference), HOWEVER we get the same amount of coins at low level and high level, so, we get the same amount of coins that you do, do you want to pay 600k to go in cube? lol its expensive enough as it is.
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Do you really think high levels have the money for this? lmao...
    If your faction does not own every territory of TW, then you're pretty much doomed.

    Higher level DQ mats sell for what 3.5k a piece? when lower level sells for 2.5k (about it... so its a 1k difference), HOWEVER we get the same amount of coins at low level and high level, so, we get the same amount of coins that you do, do you want to pay 600k to go in cube? lol its expensive enough as it is.

    It depends on who's the high level you're referring to, but the majority of high level do own millions of coins to keep them playing.

    At the current gold prices, even those who own the whole TW maps can hardly earn 3m/week, and in some cases they can hardly pay for their charm costs. The payout is worse than a toilet cleaner, lol. Those who own lots of coins and manage to own uber gears are NEVER the result of TW payout but charging Zen and/or merchanting. Well if someone managed to rob their guild bank, it's a different story, lol
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